[SPOILERS] End-Game And Suspicions About The First DLC

[I_Willenbrock_I]

I higly doubt the dlc will be set post story...i could be mistaken but...i think story dlcs will be prologue,and mid game content,ading some new gameplay elements to the game but wait and see...

Mid game content is a bad idea, unless they change the outcome of the game and unlock new and different endings, who reflect the effort put into the game.

The pacing and urgency of the game just contradicts "wasting time" in act 2. V simply does not have the time to do things that don't help her survive.

 

[JubJub154]

I higly doubt the dlc will be set post story...i could be mistaken but...i think story dlcs will be prologue,and mid game content,ading some new gameplay elements to the game but wait and see...

In most other RPG games I would agree, but this game is different. They ended the story on a cliffhanger and with more lore to explore. So I think there will be something. Also having 'V' leave to go to another place outside of the map mid-game is just strange and just doesnt make sense. They cant even come up with something that's extremely big because how would it not effect the end of the game? If he were to travel to space before the end of the game, how does that go about not being mentioned once in the credits or by anybody in the last act. So extensive story DLC in the Mid game doesn't make sense. Pre-game story is pointless because how are we going to be able to justify having our characters leveled up/having mods/weapons/cars. It just doesn't make sense. If they add post story DLC, everything makes much more sense. Also when they plan on adding a new mechanic with the new attribute, how would they be able to do this without once again messing up the lore of the story?

 

[Stanos91]

I higly doubt the dlc will be set post story...i could be mistaken but...i think story dlcs will be prologue,and mid game content,ading some new gameplay elements to the game but wait and see...

A prologue DLC would not make any sense. Forcing people tp abandon their high level characters, and play a mini story without the characters players like and enjoy? Do not get me wrong, I liked Jackie, but I cannot see any worthwile story in there which needs a DLC.
As for the midgame DLC, that would work better implementation wise, as there is an automatic save before the last main mission. However that would require Johnny = Keanu Reeves, or a very good reason for his absence, and as others pointed out, due to the pacing of the story, it would be wierd. We will see.

 

[chadesh]

not going to worry about it all that much till it actual happens.

 

[poldengonyboy]

Wait just wondering for any of y'all who have beat the witcher 3, when you finish the game could you continue playing? Or was it a revert to last save type of deal like this game is? I've heard things about Blood & Wine being the true end of the game but you could do it mid-game or whenever. Is this because you could beat the main story of witcher 3 and still be playing? Or did you have to do blood and wine first and then beat the main quest because the game ends afterwards?

 

[Maxisspl4774]

In w3 after the game ending u return to the main world but the game is completed. U cant replay the last mission unless u did manual save before it. But in witcher 3 the last mission is always the same only the 15/20 minute epilogue changes. And to Achieve another endings in w3 u have to do more than picking other option on the roof.

 

[Eakani]

As long as the game ends as it ends, it don't buy any DLC, especially no mid game DLC. Makes no sense for me.

 

[JubJub154]

Just saw a video talking about the page thats teasing 2021 DLC: https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/dlc
They mention this (image below)

So it says "Where's Johnny?", "Fixer", and I'm not sure what is says in the top right (If anybody can make that out, please reply).
Does anybody think this means anything?

 

[stndn]

Just saw a video talking about the page thats teasing 2021 DLC: https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/dlc
They mention this (image below)
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So it says "Where's Johnny?", "Fixer", and I'm not sure what is says in the top right (If anybody can make that out, please reply).
Does anybody think this means anything?

Interesting find. Not sure how/why they'd continue on with Johnny...Or maybe that image is just a coincidence.

Unless it has something to do with the Arasaka ending? Not sure if relevant but in the Arasaka ending I'm pretty sure you can hear a snippet of Johnny's voice after the operation (or maybe my game audio bugged out)

 

[poldengonyboy]

In w3 after the game ending u return to the main world but the game is completed. U cant replay the last mission unless u did manual save before it. But in witcher 3 the last mission is always the same only the 15/20 minute epilogue changes. And to Achieve another endings in w3 u have to do more than picking other option on the roof.

Oh okay, I think that might be good news though. Maybe part of the reason why there's no "post game" dlc in the witcher is because technically there is no post game, you can keep on playing. Whereas in this game obviously everything comes to a close and you cannot keep going. I know they fixed this in Fallout 3 because everybody was complaining about the ending in that game too, but we will have to wait and see.

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Just saw a video talking about the page thats teasing 2021 DLC: https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/dlc
They mention this (image below)
View attachment 11121599
So it says "Where's Johnny?", "Fixer", and I'm not sure what is says in the top right (If anybody can make that out, please reply).
Does anybody think this means anything?

Do you have the link to the video?

 

[Willowhugger]

Oh okay, I think that might be good news though. Maybe part of the reason why there's no "post game" dlc in the witcher is because technically there is no post game, you can keep on playing. Whereas in this game obviously everything comes to a close and you cannot keep going. I know they fixed this in Fallout 3 because everybody was complaining about the ending in that game too, but we will have to wait and see.

I feel like people miss the rather obvious fact that Johnny is in like half of the Side Quests, commenting on whatever you're doing like getting captured by Scavs or when you rescue a woman in a sanitarium, you find one of his old war buddies in another room.

Obviously, you can't do these quests post-game when he's dead or out of your body (or in charge of it).

Hence no postgame.

 

[djdawk94]

Is there a tarot card for fixing bugs, bad optimization, and bad AI? Asking for a friend

 

[poldengonyboy]

I feel like people miss the rather obvious fact that Johnny is in like half of the Side Quests, commenting on whatever you're doing like getting captured by Scavs or when you rescue a woman in a sanitarium, you find one of his old war buddies in another room.

Obviously, you can't do these quests post-game when he's dead or out of your body (or in charge of it).

Hence no postgame.

Yea this is true I never thought of that, I only ever thought about the flip side of that, where they would need to include Johnny in any expansion content we get if it's going to be mid-game content. So unless they already have all the voice lines recorded from Keanu, they're gonna have to hire him again to come back in to fill all of that out.

I mean unless they just exclude him from all the mid-game DLC content, there are missions where he doesn't comment on anything, but it would be weird to not hear him have anything to say for 10-30 hours.

 

[Willowhugger]

One thing I notice is the fact the third "Box" in the character sheet is never finished. There's no 100% for "Finding a Cure to your Condition" my theory is that the DLC will allow you to reach 100% and thus be able to get a secret Cure Ending. The same for the fact you cannot reach 100% Johnny.

 

[I_Willenbrock_I]

Many lose ends in the endings.

I mean V has to be one of the most valuable assets in the whole world of cyberpunk 2077, if motivated accordingly.

I mean. We killed (or at least beat) Adam fucking Smasher, while coughing up blood and the brain being forcefully rewritten by a biochip.

Any corporation or influential group that needs shit done should have an interest to motivate V for another job. And being cured of a terminal desease (especially after the first symptoms are kicking in) is a pretty strong motivation.
In addition, deals and extortion like this is a pretty strong trope in the cyberpunk genre.

 

[bcraig6010]

Hey so I'm new to these forums and I don't know exactly if this is the right place to post this, but if it is I really want to hear all you thoughts on this, and any insights you might have!

So to start this off, this has heavy spoilers about multiple endings and romance options.

With that being said I have a couple what I think are pretty reasonable assumptions about what the first or at least one of the major expansion pack DLC's will be about. I know the game has only been out for 4 days so I recognize that there's no way to truly know, but based on some foreshadowing in the story and even some little easter eggs I think I have an Idea.

So I think one of the major DLC's will be about trying to save V's life again a second time. Once you finish the game, if you decide to let V live and let Johnny go with Alt, you learn that you only have 6 months to live. This happens regardless of who you decide to complete the last quest with. As long as you don't give the body to Johnny, Kill yourself, or Sell your soul you are stuck w 6 months left to live. We know that V obviously doesn't care when people tell them they're as good as dead, they've cheated death more than once at this point.

Now the reasons why I feel so strongly that this will be the DLC is because of a few subtle and maybe not so subtle hints the game gives you throughout, and especially near/at the end of the game.

Number 1. The ending with Panam and the Nomads. Whether you romance her or if you're a female and romance judy, you leave night city to go to Tucson, Arizona with the nomads. If you romanced Judy you bring her along with you. If you romanced Panam you just leave with her. (IDK about River and Kerry yet). In one of the last dialogue options you say to Panam you are going to figure out how to cure your sickness, and she says that the Aldecaldo's have people in Arizona that have helped their folks out of deep cesspits. Implying that you will be able to indeed find someone out there who can help you out. Obviously this could just be a little glimmer of hope for the player so that they can Imagine that their V doesn't actually die, But I'm gonna get to why I think it's more than that in a sec. Also before you get back in your body, Johnny tells you "Never stop fighting!" Meaning don't just lay down and die after 6 months, try to find a new cure.

Number 2. The ending with Johnny, where you take back your body from Johnny. Personally I took this path the first time, and having romanced Panam, you find her in the shower of your mansion that you now have. Again with 6 months left to live, She's mad that you're not coming with her to Arizona. Anyways y'all get into a little argument, and again there's an option where you can say that this is not the last time you will see each other. Also If you romanced River or Kerry, they show up in the mansion with you before you go to "Crystal Palace". Not sure about Judy on this one.

Finally Number 3. A bit less direct imo but it also still teases us that there will be post end game content in the DLC regarding this new health condition, and also maybe alluding that it will be in Arizona and have a lot to do with Panam and the Nomads. When you finish the game with the Nomads, at the very last scene before you drive off in the tank, you can pick up a whole legendary set-piece of armour in one of the lockers. The thing is, you can't even equip it, because the action is blocked at that point. Idk if it's just a bug at this point, but I don't really think it is, because why would they give you 3 amazing legendary tier pieces of armour right before the literal end of the game?

Another thing that is convincing is if you ever try to drive out of the map, in the badlands it says something like "Turn back, this area is not available... Yet..." Which obviously is pretty heavy foreshadowing that we will get an expansion outside of night city in the future.

The final piece of evidence is kind of small, but it's during Panam's last side quest. Right before you leave her at the new camp, you can say "Too bad this is our last time together" and she responds with, "who say's it has to be our last?". Again idk if this is alluding to the final mission with her, or if it's just some filler line, but after seeing all of this other evidence I feel like it might be a bit more than that.

Anyways, that's all I really got for now. Hope it wasn't too long. Let me know what your thoughts are, if you guys have anymore supporting my theory or evidence that this is absolutely not the case and I'm an idiot lol. I personally hope this is the case and I hope we go to Arizona with Panam, because I'm deeply in love with her and I feel as though we did not get enough content with her and our other romance options like Judy (Who would also be coming with us to Arizona if you romanced her). Only way I see this idea for the DLC being messed up is if you Sold your soul to Arisaka, or if you gave the body back to Johnny. But even with Johnny's story he leaves night city on a bus to who knows where.

TLDR: First or At least one of the major expansions is going to be about us trying to save our own lives again after the main game ending, by going to Arizona and looking for someone who has a cure with the Aldecaldos'.

I WANT to be hopeful but you're just deluding yourself. The same "" writers who wrote 6 (censored) endings where all endings are crap and your fate is determined and NO CHOICES you make matter ever as far as the ending (just the style of your death) I have no faith in these writers now.

The DLC will be about new people and have even shorter stories where nothing you do matters essentially

 

[Solidus2kill]

Yep 60% after the ending before Crystal Palace.

 

[bcraig6010]

I don't think any DLC's will be expanding on the main story as we've played it. Firstly because if different endings and different canon for different playthroughs. Second because we have never seen it happen like that in big RPG's like this where you get to go back to the world before the finale happened. I mostly look at Mass Effect for examples on that front.

I would love it though. I really want to save my V. I adore her.

They CANT though. In every ending you die. No choices matter. They play the death sound right before the phone calls. V is dead. Nothing she did mattered in the end. To her and close ones. Our world is dark and morose at the moment. Why would I want more cdpr writing of essentially you're f'd no matter what you do and here is a DLC with even shorter story where nothing matters!!!

 

[stndn]

The DLC will be about new people and have even shorter stories where nothing you do matters essentially

Why though? Why piss away the 50-100 hours people have spent crafting their V for someone new? It doesn't make sense, both logistically and thematically.

 

[bcraig6010]

Why though? Why piss away the 50-100 hours people have spent crafting their V for someone new? It doesn't make sense, both logistically and thematically.

Because V is dead. In every ending V is dead - they even play the death sound right before the phone calls. V ceases to exist in cyberspace or comes back briefly just to see romance partners leave you or wish you well months after. No way an alive V wouldnt answer others call for months. V is dead in all endings. But I agree - they have pissed away hundred hour of gameplay + with a damn stupid FO4 ending.