[SPOILERS] End-Game And Suspicions About The First DLC

[JubJub154]

Also to all you arguing, you gotta relax. We can all have different opinions that why its a forum, so no need to argue with one another.
To those saying the story wont get post game DLC, its very possible you are right. The only reason imp hesitant to agree with it is because of the way the story was written. To me it feels the game was setup for something post story based. Ofc this can be wrong. Though it might piss many of us off, it might be easier to just throw 'V' into another story mid way in the game and just ignore that he's dying and has almost no time. Its what the writers and devs feel is the best.

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Well, How about DLC starts you being in Arizona getting "Fixed" and you return in Night City?

Probably not what's its referencing. Rogue, Okoda, Regina Jones, and Padre (just to name a few) are all considered to be "Fixers". So it could be referencing new fixers being added or quests from them. If the picture means anything at all. Which it could be nothing.

 

[snakey_77]

Well, How about DLC starts you being in Arizona getting "Fixed" and you return in Night City?

unless they destroy the current endings (or seriously mess with them) and remove the reset back to before the last mission then there grabbing at straws to continue the story fluently and to make sense..
as before im not sure there going to write new endings to accommodate that type of change

 

[Solidus2kill]

No new endings for me, but those endings (at least 3 of theme) can be assimilated into:

1) corpo ending
2) nomad ending
3) street kid ending

can work as new origins lifepaths or whatever

A near sequel as just I said is impossible, the multiplayer has been delayed and the story as it is gave us too many hints for post-end narrative arc.

too many coincidences guys. Those endings work like a "teaser trailer" for the future state of the game

 

[TintelFruit]

You should visit the "about the endings" thread some time. The amount of times I have to repeat this is giving me brain aneurysms.

You and me both.

 

[Eakani]

A DLC that changes V fate is unlikely.

In 4 endings V can't change his/her fate himself/herself anymore (Dead/Cyberspace/Mikoshi/Game Over)
In 1 ending V accepted his/her fate, only focusing to become THE Legend no matter what
In 2 endings V got either 3 month, alone and broken by Arasaka or 6 month with the Nomads to find a cure

How to merge those back into one story arc for only a DLC? And, there is an Interview out there on Prima Games in which a CDPR guy said, mainstory is complete with the main game, no holdback for DLCs. If that is still true, we got what we got and we will only see mid-game stuff and Vs fate will still be dead, gone or at best, uncertain.

 

[Solidus2kill]

A DLC that changes V fate is unlikely.

In 4 endings V can't change his/her fate himself/herself anymore (Dead/Cyberspace/Mikoshi/Game Over)
In 1 ending V accepted his/her fate, only focusing to become THE Legend no matter what
In 2 endings V got either 3 month, alone and broken by Arasaka or 6 month with the Nomads to find a cure

How to merge those back into one story arc for only DLC? And, there is an Interview out there on Prima Games in which a CDPR guy said, mainstory is complete with the main game, no holdback for DLCs. If that is still true, we got what we got and we will only see mid-game stuff and Vs fate will still be dead, gone or at best, uncertain.

Link

 

[Eakani]

Link

Cyberpunk 2077 Will Have a "Very Rewarding Ending," Complete Expansions

Not unlike The Witcher 3, Cyberpunk 2077 will continue to evolve with the player in mind.

primagames.com

Lui mentions "So I don't want to spoil anything right now, but very satisfying story arc, right? You're going to see characters and you'll see them develop. You're going to see them go through conflicts and resolve those conflicts. It'll be a very rewarding ending. We're not withholding content, we're not withholding story for the future to try to, you know, monetize it or sell it in pieces or anything like that. You're going to get the whole, full value game here."

 

[TintelFruit]

Link

Don't put too much merit into the quote, it was an UI team manager who left the team 14 months before CP2077 went gold.

 

[Solidus2kill]

they said that the game was finished too, but it's not.

So we cannot trust a random guy in a random old interview.

In that case the game for me is dead eh (with no expansion content post ending), no interest in mid-game event that doesn't change the ending and they had a bad managing with the cliffhangers

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Cyberpunk 2077 Will Have a "Very Rewarding Ending," Complete Expansions

Not unlike The Witcher 3, Cyberpunk 2077 will continue to evolve with the player in mind.

primagames.com

Lui mentions "So I don't want to spoil anything right now, but very satisfying story arc, right? You're going to see characters and you'll see them develop. You're going to see them go through conflicts and resolve those conflicts. It'll be a very rewarding ending. We're not withholding content, we're not withholding story for the future to try to, you know, monetize it or sell it in pieces or anything like that. You're going to get the whole, full value game here."

Bru it's from 3 february 2020 too old, before the crunch and the delays c'mon

 

[zeemanefekti]

they said that the game was finished too, but it's not.

So we cannot trust a random guy in a random old interview.

In that case the game for me is dead eh (with no expansion content post ending), no interest in mid-game event that doesn't change the ending and they had a bad managing with the cliffhangers

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Bru it's from 3 february 2020 too old, before the crunch and the delays c'mon

With the first delay they already said that the quests and story were done and it was all about polish? Or do I not remember correctly? Of course these should be taken with a grain of salt, just like the original 2018 gameplay trailers. Nothing is for sure, until it has been released and verified.

 

[Solidus2kill]

maybe the main plot before the "problems" was really rewarding and complete, the game has been released in december 10.

maybe they cut the main plot for the deadlines, we don't know but we cannot trust an old interview anymore.

How can you build a pg in 20 hours main quests? let be realists

 

[Eakani]

Don't put too much merit into the quote, it was an UI team manager who left the team 14 months before CP2077 went gold.

Well, that makes him free to talk about such things and doesn't sound like he is talking shit. I mean, or do you think they now cut the story for making more money with DLCs?

they said that the game was finished too, but it's not.

So we cannot trust a random guy in a random old interview.

In that case the game for me is dead eh (with no expansion content post ending), no interest in mid-game event that doesn't change the ending and they had a bad managing with the cliffhangers

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Bru it's from 3 february 2020 too old, before the crunch and the delays c'mon

I am very sure, Feb 2020 is past the point the game went "content complete" and startet full production, which is obviously delayed because of technical problems, game mechanics, bugs and stuff not because of an unfinished story. But yes, could have changed since than anyways.

 

[Solidus2kill]

Well, that makes him free to talk about such things and doesn't sound like he is talking shit. I mean, or do you think they now cut the story for making more money with DLCs?



I am very sure, Feb 2020 is past the point the game went "content complete" and startet full production, which is obviously delayed because of technical problems, game mechanics, bugs and stuff not because of an unfinished story. But yes, could have changed since than anyways.

I think some parts of the main quest have been literally cut (or delayed)

February was a delicate period after the first delay anyway

 

[poldengonyboy]

Well, that makes him free to talk about such things and doesn't sound like he is talking shit. I mean, or do you think they now cut the story for making more money with DLCs?


I am very sure, Feb 2020 is past the point the game went "content complete" and startet full production, which is obviously delayed because of technical problems, game mechanics, bugs and stuff not because of an unfinished story. But yes, could have changed since than anyways.

I think if CDPR haven't changed anything to do with the story since he's worked there then he's probably right. The only hope we have regarding this situation is that he stopped working there in August 2019. So even though the article was published in Feb 2020, the interview must've took place before August 2019, or if it didn't take place before then, they were interviewing him after he stopped working for the company therefore making it possible that his information is dated and possibly just straight up wrong at this point.

 

[Eakani]

I think some parts of the main quest have been literally cut (or delayed)

February was a delicate period after the first delay anyway

I wouldn't bet that there weren't cuts in the story, but the endings don't speak for many options to go on with the story. I mean in 4 of them, you can't change your fate yourself anymore. In one you accepted you fate. Hope lies on the two with a few month left to live. That's not much and makes me believe, the story could really be done.

I am not sure if there is a meaning behind it, but the standard endings, are the Arasaka ones. I mean, you get those in a straight mainstory run.

 

[DRaptor-1]

That interview is to old. Is obvious that they cut something and that the game is not complete yet, as the menu says (with the %)", and we can understand from the in game hints.

Plus, none saw that "rewarding" ending tho.

 

[Eakani]

That interview is to old. Is obvious that they cut something and that the game is not complete yet, as the menu says (with the %)", and we can understand from the in game hints.

Plus, none saw that "rewarding" ending tho.

Old doesn't mean invalid. My % in the menu doesn't tell me i missed something befor i start the final mission.

Game Progress 90%
Relationship to Johnny 70%
Relic Status 40%

Didn't checked it myself, but saw some pics after the missions that show 100% / 90 % / 60%.

Totally agree to that, there is no real rewarding end.

 

[Motsie]

I feel like people miss the rather obvious fact that Johnny is in like half of the Side Quests, commenting on whatever you're doing like getting captured by Scavs or when you rescue a woman in a sanitarium, you find one of his old war buddies in another room.

Obviously, you can't do these quests post-game when he's dead or out of your body (or in charge of it).

Hence no postgame.

I thought this would hinder them at first but there are some gigs that skip Johnny's input entirely if you're still in Act 1. E.g., Sacrum Profanum (rescuing the monk) and Cyberpsycho Sighting: Ticket to the Major Leagues.

 

[jahkin]

anyway it's easy to continue after the ending, their scheme is not so complicated:


Endings:

1) A ✓
2) B ✓
3) C π
4) D ∆
5) E X

Outcomes:

✓ V in body
∆ V in Mikoshi
π Johnny V
X V suicide

Actually that reminds me now of the glyph-puzzles of Andromeda, always sucked at those...

Any

expansions

before the

endings MAKE NO SENSE

Simply they wanted this situation in the forums, theory crafting and anxiety about the destiny of our hero.
Trust me will be just like this:

1. The space heist. You do a small mission, in exchange, Mr.Blue Eyes tells you where you can find a cure
2. Nomad. You meet Panams contacts, they tell you where to find a cure.
3. Arasaka and back to earth. You meet someone else (maybe Mr. Blue Eyes), who tells you where to find a cure.

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this a proof anyway

Actually ... I think if I had to make a post-ending-DLC I would make the space heist main story for all three pssoible endings. Mr. Bluemaneyes tells you outright...but each other ending could also lead up to the same Space heist and the answer to V's cure...

It would make sense that such a heist would not just be "hop in a shuttle and go for SPACE!" though .... instead it would make sense that one had to prepare the same way for such a heist in Night City as we did with the Yorinobu-heist. Just more extensive. That would be the way to bring all possible paths back to Night City, have the player go on adventures to prepare the heist, and then have THAT HEIST as the actual climax of the DLC...

Again, that would be what makes sense to me, oif I had to somehow wrap up this current mess and all ... also a nice throwback to the beginning. Another heist, do it properly this time. Or not ...

 

[spychi88]

Hey OP not really I feel the complete opposite,
SPOILERS AHEAD
the DLC is going to be pre-ending content at least the first one, you know why ? They added the one last gig piece option where you finish the game but land just before meeting Hanako, this tells me that; You will be able to start the DLC content with possibly altering your choice, you get to do that one more gig.
Also given how most of the game companies add first content on the existing storyline that is always pre-ending
Borderlands,
Witcher 3
Dead Space 2
Mass Effect 1,2,3
etc
Yo get where I am going

To top it up
I realised after choosing all endings... so except you giving away the body to Johnny... V dies after those few months, reasoning ? All of those endings where V chooses to live the remaining 6 months, you get the messages from all the ones you knew, INCLUDING your romance option - following up on the logic of those being seen in the bad ending means only one thing; V DIES no matter what, and those are post morterm messages.
If that is true, which I believe it is, not sure if the wise choice is to kill off the main character just within the first installment, while most people got attached to their character. We'll see where all of this leads us but probably in a few years as I doubt there is any certain draft on the continuation of the story.