I really hope your right. I think they've been planning it. The DLC could even be about a situation where V gets worse and you play as Panam and your story is to save V from death. Which would also be great.This is really convincing, especially based on the "this area isn't available... yet" note. Further, I think more is revealed thanks to the Aldecaldo ending as well (I don't think I need to say this, but SPOILER WARNING)
In the Aldecaldo ending, there are three other things to keep in mind;
FIRST: Cassidy's bit of dialogue in the Aldecaldo epilogue:
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"Bad thoughts are cheap, but they smear over the truth like mud. You think you'll run outta fuel before the stop? You will." To me, this is a sort of meta-comment in a way; if you want the end to be that V finds no cure, no hope in the end, then V will succumb to her limited life. However, there are so many things pointing against that and the struggle for survival is a tough one, so we have to, in a kind of ironic way, come to terms with the fact that V will survive. V survived Dex, V survived Johnny, V survived Arasaka, V survived Soulkiller, and V survived Night City, so certainly V will survive this.
SECOND: The data shard of The Iliad:
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"if I abide here and war about the city of the Trojans, then lost is my home-return, but my renown shall be imperishable;
but if I return home to my dear native land, lost then is my glorious renown, yet shall my life long endure, neither shall the doom of death come soon upon me. "
I do not think there is any possible reading of this that would lead one to believe that V is doomed no matter what. V is leaving Night City behind, not giving up on hopes of becoming a "legend", but realizing that dream in and of itself was an illusion, was the false promise of eternal life, just as Soulkiller and Mikoshi was for so many others. It is leaving, returning "home", which for V is returning to their new home in the "native land" of the badlands with the Aldecaldos, that ensures V will live a long life, and that "the doom of death" shall not "come soon upon (them)".
THIRD: Misty's final Tarot reading (sorry for cropped image, took screenshot from a youtube video because I forgot to in-game)
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Using this website to find the meanings of the cards:
The Chariot
"The Chariot predicts success in a specific situation. The success will be clear and powerful, transmitting complete satisfaction and glory."
The Lovers
"The symbolism of the card is obvious: love." (based on what Judy says when giving a Tarot read before Panam arrives, also has to do with family, friends).
The Sun
"The sunlight returns to illuminate our path and eliminate the perils of darkness. Now our path is brighter and free from dangers. A period of serenity and happiness awaits. After difficult periods (darkness), everything is taking a turn for the better. Great personal gratification because a positive moment follows less fortunate ones."
Knowing Misty's tarot readings have, in the game, been accurate, implying that tarot can work to divine the truth of the future, and knowing that the tarot readings at each ending is different, implying accurate readings for each ending, we confirm that the Aldecaldos ending is the most straight-forward, illuminated, direct path to ensure "success in a specific situation", such that in the end, "everything (takes) a turn for the better".
So yeah, I would bet that, at least in one major DLC, there will be expansion into Arizona, likely regardless of what ending you picked so long as you didn't lose yourself to cyberspace or suicide.
I think that's an interesting possibility but I don't think they'd do that; I think the game makes a point that you are always within the perspective of V's mind; even in the sections where you're in Johnny's memories or Johnny takes over, it is seen from V's perspective of Johnny's entanglement with V's brain, and I don't think they'd break that pattern, lest it'd damage the integrity of the perspective provided for telling the story.I really hope your right. I think they've been planning it. The DLC could even be about a situation where V gets worse and you play as Panam and your story is to save V from death. Which would also be great.
it won't kill the game for me, i don't understand the game industry at this point, bethesda and ubisoft deliver games that are bugged as hell end doesn't work properly in more moments than cyberpunk and everyone says "you know its bethesda and bugisoft they do it all the time" BUT FOR FUCKS SAKE they are releasing reskins of previous games like with far cry series with more bugs than cp2077 and they get away with it, then cp releases and everyone is screaming that they are surprised that the game have bugs lol. CD project released 3 or 4 patches in 1,5 week so i think that the game will be fixed in a few weeks. And the expanions will not cost 60$, the dlc's for w3 cost something about 30/40 bucks(i don't remember well because in poland cdp games used to be cheaper back then, w3 on the world premiere cost 30 bucks in poland, and w3 collectors edition cost around 80 bucks in our country but with cp2077 we have to pay the full price tooI think your totally right and you do make good points about the devs statments, I thought the game was excellent and I loved V's story and how relatable the character was in a situation that cant be any farther from our reality. Excellent story writing, but I strongly feel that they left the "Along The Watchtower" arch open to expansion which if I had to would spend another $60 just to see what happens to V and Panam (and Judy if she came along with your story). Its a slightly desperate take, but I've haven't felt so attached to story in a long time. Honestly for me I said it in another post today. I really just want a textbook happy ending. I haven't had one in what feels like forever. No twists or shock factor (Negative shock factor). Just a happy ending. Hopefully your right and we will get to play and finish up with V's story arch. I think there's so much more to explore with that story. Also we all need to hope this awful launch doesn't kill the game, but i doubt that will happen. Game will probably flourish once its fixed up.
Either way I would be ecstatic to continue the storyline. The relationship between the male V and Panam is my main interest. I think they are really fun and the chemistry that exists between the two is in my opinion so good. They are a kick ass duo and I think they work together perfectly. Their minds are so similar and even the stories between the two have many similarities. I really like the writing for the two and cant give anymore praise to the writers. I really cant in that regard CDPR did a phenomenal job.I think that's an interesting possibility but I don't think they'd do that; I think the game makes a point that you are always within the perspective of V's mind; even in the sections where you're in Johnny's memories or Johnny takes over, it is seen from V's perspective of Johnny's entanglement with V's brain, and I don't think they'd break that pattern, lest it'd damage the integrity of the perspective provided for telling the story.
I think if an Arizona DLC were included, it would still be from V's perspective, working with Panam and the Aldecaldos to acquire the cure/antidote/tech/etc, and I think such a DLC would be a great benefit for the game since it'd allow continuation after the base-game story is completed, but this time without Johnny in your head, which I think would allow for an interesting change in dynamic, and could tell a really touching and beautiful story about something regarding family ties, elements of love (in various interpretations of "love", from familial to platonic to romantic), and so on.
And, in any case, with how short the main story is on its own, I would imagine some future DLC would have to expand on it, since, one, DLC is optional, so those with the time and interest to invest would want the longer story whereas more casual players would be fine with the base-game story, and two, it could provide fantastic expansions upon ideas presented already in the story, and potentially flesh out elements that may have been cut or not explored thoroughly.
I dont think the expansions will cost literally $60it won't kill the game for me, i don't understand the game industry at this point, bethesda and ubisoft deliver games that are bugged as hell end doesn't work properly in more moments than cyberpunk and everyone says "you know its bethesda and bugisoft they do it all the time" BUT FOR FUCKS SAKE they are releasing reskins of previous games like with far cry series with more bugs than cp2077 and they get away with it, then cp releases and everyone is screaming that they are surprised that the game have bugs lol. CD project released 3 or 4 patches in 1,5 week so i think that the game will be fixed in a few weeks. And the expanions will not cost 60$, the dlc's for w3 cost something about 30/40 bucks(i don't remember well because in poland cdp games used to be cheaper back then, w3 on the world premiere cost 30 bucks in poland, and w3 collectors edition cost around 80 bucks in our country but with cp2077 we have to pay the full price too)
i had that ending literally 10 minutes ago xd i think the problem is that even if u don't sign the contract the credits are the same for both, like V never came back to earth. And well we don't know how much time passed by from our call to judy to the actual coming back to earth, after the call to judy u have to repeat the tests like 10 times in a row, so many days could've passed and judy maybe just gived up?the arosaka back to earth is ending i dont understand why judys message was like we had no relationships, i phoned her said that iam in the station and will be back as fast as i can, and she said that she is waiting, but why message was like in the every ending if you pkay male V, she just leaved the city and didnt said anithing, if she broked up with V there should be message like in legend ending, wtf??? Bug or cdprred didnt wanted to make anothere scene??
+10000000000000000 xd i guess that multi will be just GTA ONLINE but in night city xd i don't know what else they can do with it and i think that multiplayer is not needed in this game.This is just in my opinion, I hope that they put 95% of their time into solo content. I have no interest in a multiplayer mode and I personally feel that its not a good game for multiplayer. I play on PS5, I'm probably going to get a copy for PC soon also, but the game on controller feels slightly delayed and just not compatible with what's needed for good PVP experience. This could be just me, but overall I cant wait to see what they have content wise coming for the story. lol get me the Arizona DLC and then after that I dont give a crap what they add. If its 2 hours of dialogue and cutscenes, but it gives me the story I want idc![]()
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Its really stupid, so whats the point to phone, our choice didnt change anything, but i think this is just bug or they didnt done another message, V could phone every day to judy or panam, or river, you could complete not all quests of her and she will stay, and after back to earth, complete rest XDi had that ending literally 10 minutes ago xd i think the problem is that even if u don't sign the contract the credits are the same for both, like V never came back to earth. And well we don't know how much time passed by from our call to judy to the actual coming back to earth, after the call to judy u have to repeat the tests like 10 times in a row, so many days could've passed and judy maybe just gived up?
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+10000000000000000 xd i guess that multi will be just GTA ONLINE but in night city xd i don't know what else they can do with it and i think that multiplayer is not needed in this game.
100%!!! Take notes CD Projekt, if you read this please take the time to give us this one thing. Saving 'V' and fighting alongside Panam would make this story complete for me and I hope many others. If this happens you can bet the first place im celebrating is right in this forumFirst of all, judging from the responses in this thread, I'm so happy that I'm not alone after finishing the game for the first time.
I got the good ending (Nomads) straight of the bat and still felt like it wasn't really that "good". Obviously compared to the others it feels just better in any sense.
What I did find really annoying was the fact that even though my V did everything she could (and got the best ending IMO), she still faces yet another "disaster". Which can be resolved potentially, as pointed out, hints are all over the place, but still its only hinting currently, nothing concrete.
Now, I have nothing against this whatsoever, if, and that's a big IF, the expansion(s) allow me to carry on playing as V after the main campaign finished. If its to seek a cure and make sure V doesn't die, I'm totally happy with it. Or perhaps, V is already cured and there is something else to do entirely. Likelyhood of at least one of the expansion offering the chance to find a cure is way higher out of the two, and I sincerely hope that CDPR goes down that route.
If they don't, and I find out that I can't actually save V (and that her story literally ended already), then quite frankly, the whole struggle and practically the whole story just falls totally flat on its face at the very end.
I have had great time playing 2077, sure I encountered some bugs/glitches (I was totally expecting to as well), but really nothing game-breaking or nothing.
To me this game has been pretty great so far, and am just planning on my 2nd playthrough as a nomad.
The story, characters, graphics, sounds, dialogue, most choices, excellent. And the graphics are not counting in ray tracing either, my GPU doesn't do RT, but this game looks gorgeous regardless.
Scoring from me personally at this very moment would be very high, 9 or 10 perhaps, however that comes with an asterisk. If I can't finish my V's story properly, the way I want to, and get a proper good ending where I know for a fact that V doesn't die and gets to spend the rest of their life with the people that are important to them, aka the romance options (Judy/Panam) and friends, I will most likely knock that score down at least by a full point, if not more.
I just think, as others have pointed out, V deserves a happy ending. Nothing more, nothing less.
TLDR; I want to be able to continue playing as V, and this time properly save them from dying and also have their romance option and friends with me, alive.
im gonna tell u something more interesting xd i just finished the legend ending and guess what? JUDY SENDS U THE SAME FUCKING MESSAGE that she sent u in arasaka ending :/Its really stupid, so whats the point to phone, our choice didnt change anything, but i think this is just bug or they didnt done another message, V could phone every day to judy or panam, or river, you could complete not all quests of her and she will stay, and after back to earth, complete rest XD
And thats what i am talking about, in Arasaka you phoned her and said that will go to eart when they end with tests, and her reaction is perfect, sorry you are 10 days on space station, so iam going to leave the city because i dont want to be asshole, REALLY? Cdprred wtf, whats the point to do a target to Phone friends and romance if this is not change anything, fix pls , that looks so strange, surely we phone her or panam after going back to earth but thats killing all atmosphere, why judy, river and panam are breacing with youim gonna tell u something more interesting xd i just finished the legend ending and guess what? JUDY SENDS U THE SAME FUCKING MESSAGE that she sent u in arasaka ending :/
so according to Witcher 3I actually have a question for all of you. I've never played the Witcher or any other game by CDPR, do their DLC's usually follow the main character? Also are they usually large addons (whole map expansions)? Just asking because as much as I'm hoping for an Arizona DLC, I wasnt sure if the developers are known for adding such large DLC's.
Mister blue eyes?For me every ending leads to a sequel.
let me explain ...
the end does not matter but I will detail it quickly.
If V keeps his body he has 6 months to live or he can travel to another city to find a cure. The start would be different compared to the end, in nomad we would start with Panam while if we stay in night city we would start with the casino. I
f we give V's body to Johnny, it's Johnny himself who would take care of bringing V back so we could have the same start I said with Panam but playing Johnny.
the last and that of suicide which seems to me to be the most complicated path approached in the event of a sequel. but as we are told we died once and the relic prepared V's body for johnny so we can use johnny's ending with this one for a sequel.
In any case, mister blue eyes will be an important character for the dlc (s) the question has been asked where everything is going to happen and will he help or manipulate us. In terms of development I think it's very viable but maybe I'm wrong too. I think his more like master miror in TW3
I odont know who is mister blue eyes, i didnt completed all sides, but i agree in dlc should be continue of V story, new location 100%, and smth that lead most od endings to this momentFor me every ending leads to a sequel.
let me explain ...
the end does not matter but I will detail it quickly.
If V keeps his body he has 6 months to live or he can travel to another city to find a cure. The start would be different compared to the end, in nomad we would start with Panam while if we stay in night city we would start with the casino. I
f we give V's body to Johnny, it's Johnny himself who would take care of bringing V back so we could have the same start I said with Panam but playing Johnny.
the last and that of suicide which seems to me to be the most complicated path approached in the event of a sequel. but as we are told we died once and the relic prepared V's body for johnny so we can use johnny's ending with this one for a sequel.
In any case, mister blue eyes will be an important character for the dlc (s) the question has been asked where everything is going to happen and will he help or manipulate us. In terms of development I think it's very viable but maybe I'm wrong too. I think his more like master miror in TW3
How did you know that she living to sietlle?Don't forget you have to meet your squad after you cross borders, so there is very high chance they will give us access to expanded Nomad starting area and before you leave California to Arizona reps. Tucson something will happen in Night City and you have to go back. So not necessary giving us new city, but just more Badlands. Overall it's shame we can't access Nomad starting zone without glitching or tank build to survive border check.
I already checked what's behind borders and you can see there placeholders and big flying billboard ships which are not visible from Night City.
I think we can all agree there is very high chance of getting Nomad story DLC. For me Star ending is best one, not because I enjoyed it most, but because its open, there is clearly way more job done and in my opinion this was ending CDPR wanted and it's only one "good" ending, in others you will lose your character.
btw. If you are not dating Judy, she will leave Night City to Seattle and sending you text messages how is she doing, this happen if you complete her story as male V or just straight female V.
Firstly will be free little dls(not only one) that will add smth like barber in tw3, big dlc with story will be like blood and wine no more then 15 dollars i thinkDoes anyone know if the DLC will be free ?