[SPOILERS] End-Game And Suspicions About The First DLC

[Maxisspl4774]

Cyberpunk 2077 was a mess before release. They changed entire main story in 2018 by making Silverhand a main character while he was supposed to be a background person in the first place. In one of the first gameplays we can hear that Johnny silverhand have passed out in 2076 and also u could pick him as your background story element(aswell as morgan blackhand). That's why i think that we may not see expansions so fast :/ They were constantly changing main plot what we can see in the game in many moments. Unfortunately this game was a mess if we're speaking about changes made before release. They once scrapped the entire game in 2016 and then changed main plot in 2018 from becoming legend of night city to whole relic thing. I don't say its bad because the relic plot is way more personal what i like(becoming legend of night city would feel like gta 2077 for me xd) but the fact they scrapped entire main plot in 2018 means that they didn't have enough time to work on the new one about relic. For me that's why the story feels incomplete.

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It's too early to think about a sequel, if any. Also, do not forget about MP, for which they also need to spend a lot of time and energy

In my opinion V's story must end in THIS game (at least give us a chance to find a cure), because if they decide to continue it in the sequel, leaving everything as it is now, then it will be a real spit in the souls of the players. If they fix the current game, fix the endings (or tie them together) and present good post-game DLCs that complete V's path (whatever it may be, the main thing is that everything is logical and without holes in the plot), then I will not be against the sequel. But in the current situation, being in the place of the developers, I would not even allow thoughts about a sequel

Man, the last thing I need is a sequel, but I need a completed story NOW, no stupid open endings

Therefore, answering your question - maybe there will be a sequel, but it will obviously not happen soon. Yes, the sequel can be about a different character, but only if V's story is adequately completed in the current game, there is no other way

The sequel will be out in like 10 years now xdCDPR have only 1 big studio and they said that they next witcher game is in production already.

 

[I_Willenbrock_I]

It's too early to think about a sequel, if any. Also, do not forget about MP, for which they also need to spend a lot of time and energy

In my opinion V's story must end in THIS game (at least give us a chance to find a cure), because if they decide to continue it in the sequel, leaving everything as it is now, then it will be a real spit in the souls of the players. If they fix the current game, fix the endings (or tie them together) and present good post-game DLCs that complete V's path (whatever it may be, the main thing is that everything is logical and without holes in the plot), then I will not be against the sequel. But in the current situation, being in the place of the developers, I would not even allow thoughts about a sequel

Man, the last thing I need is a sequel, but I need a completed story NOW, no stupid open endings

Therefore, answering your question - maybe there will be a sequel, but it will obviously not happen soon. Yes, the sequel can be about a different character, but only if V's story is adequately completed in the current game, there is no other way

We need answers to so many things.
Open ends the way it is done in CP2077, only work if a sequel is planned.

I personally dont think that they are planning a sequel any time soon.
The MP release seems to be the next cp related release.

This leaves some problems and a pretty bad taste. V's story is not concluded, because o lf the cure and crystal palace things going on.

They need to conclude V's story on this game.
Killing this games protagonist will make people hesitant to play the next one.

Another general problem is that cheap emotional responses are glossed over some of the really large problems. When your story fails, pour more sugar or grimdark over it.

 

[Maxisspl4774]

We need answers to so many things.
Open ends the way it is done in CP2077, only work if a sequel is planned.

I personally dont think that they are planning a sequel any time soon.
The MP release seems to be the next cp related release.

This leaves some problems and a pretty bad taste. V's story is not concluded, because o lf the cure and crystal palace things going on.

They need to conclude V's story on this game.
Killing this games protagonist will make people hesitant to play the next one.

Another general problem is that cheap emotional responses are glossed over some of the really large problems. When your story fails, pour more sugar or grimdark over it.

i think that endings can be merged into at least one major story expansion that would be kind of epilogue to V's story. It could be this space casino/arizona i don't care what exactly anymore. I just hope that V's story will be fully completed because we are not getting a direct sequel to this game. Even if we see another cyberpunk title it will be done like GTA series- the same universe but completely new characters. We may see V/johnny there as a small easter egg. Also multiplayer will be a standalone game(probably we will be able to buy multiplayer only for lower price if somebody doesnt care about the story) . We will get more info about a few things in first quarter of 2021: 1. CDPR new business plan that will be followed in years to come 2. More info about multiplayer 3. info about expansions.

 

[JubJub154]

Someone had mentioned it, what if Mr. Blue Eyes is no more then just a Half-Life G-Man sort of character. If that's the case then it could be alluding towards a second game coming out. Though I agree with most of you, they need to finish up 'V's story in this game not one 10 years from now. Plus its crazy for them to just get by with this game and say "Meh, we got a lot of story content left over lets wait a decade to use it in a second installment". But if that's the route they want to take its very possible that we don't see any post story content.

 

[kjiandan]

Someone had mentioned it, what if Mr. Blue Eyes is no more then just a Half-Life G-Man sort of character. If that's the case then it could be alluding towards a second game coming out. Though I agree with most of you, they need to finish up 'V's story in this game not one 10 years from now. Plus its crazy for them to just get by with this game and say "Meh, we got a lot of story content left over lets wait a decade to use it in a second installment". But if that's the route they want to takes its very possible that we don't see any post story content.

This is possible... but would not make much sense from a business standpoint. I suspect a huge reason for shipping the game in the state it was in was due to it being in development for so long. Investors and devs had been working on Cyberpunk in full production mode for at least 6 years, and investors likely wanted to see some return on investment (this does not excuse potential bad production practices by CDPR, just speculation). For this reason, I think it's in their best interest to utilize this game for as much content as possible. CDPR also announced Cyberpunk 2077 would have more DLC than The Witcher 3 had, so take that for what it's worth.

I've seen it brought up multiple times that Witcher 4 is next for the studio, and for that reason Cyberpunk will fall on the back burner - this is entirely incorrect. Sure, Witcher 4 may be entering pre-production, but it will not take away resources and focus on the current game - Cyberpunk 2077

 

[Motsie]

I don't think they need to but I would certainly like for them to continue the story since I like V's character.

The endings carry a sense of finality to them. It's Toy Story 2's moral of the story - do you choose the lonely existence of being immortalized, or the quiet life of obscurity surrounded by family?

I suspect a huge reason for shipping the game in the state it was in was due to it being in development for so long.

Yeah, I mean, they took a huge gamble releasing it in its current state and it paid off. Triple the sales of Witcher 3 isn't something I can scoff at - though the quality of the end result is diminished.

 

[I_Willenbrock_I]

I don't think they need to but I would certainly like for them to continue the story since I like V's character.

The endings carry a sense of finality to them. It's Toy Story 2's moral of the story - do you choose the lonely existence of being immortalized, or the quiet life of obscurity surrounded by family?



Yeah, I mean, they took a huge gamble releasing it in its current state and it paid off. Triple the sales of Witcher 3 isn't something I can scoff at - though the quality of the end result is diminished.

Fast cash in in exchange for a ruined reputation. In addition, they only sold so many copies, because they basically promised a different game.

NNow would be the best time for the heads to retire.

 

[TLeining]

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Sure, Witcher 4 may be entering pre-production, but it will not take away resources and focus on the current game - Cyberpunk 2077

I hope that's true, but I remember similar statements about "The Saboteur", "Mass Effect 3" and "ME Andromeda" ...

 

[Motsie]

Fast cash in in exchange for a ruined reputation. In addition, they only sold so many copies, because they basically promised a different game.

NNow would be the best time for the heads to retire.

They didn't promise you or I anything. There was no contractual pact struck. They showed two videos of the game in production with a giant white disclaimer at the top. It can't be helped that people spent 8 years masturbating to the thought of a game that only existed in their head.

The only thing I hold them accountable for is the shitty crunch culture, the dismal state of the game on last-gen, and the lack luster simulation of the traffic Ai (which is mostly a surface level complaint).

 

[I_Willenbrock_I]

They didn't promise you or I anything. There was no contractual pact struck. They showed two videos of the game in production with a giant white disclaimer at the top. It can't be helped that people spent 8 years masturbating to the thought of a game that only existed in their head.

The only thing I hold them accountable for is the shitty crunch culture, the dismal state of the game on last-gen, and the lack luster simulation of the traffic Ai (which is mostly a surface level complaint).

That disclaimer is bs and you know it. Just like saying that the game runs surprisingly well on console. It's surprising that it runs at all.

It's just like the bs ubisoft pulled off with watchdogs.


No dlc in the world can undo the sorry state it was released in and unless they finish the game with free patches, I absolutely don't see any form of redemption for this.

 

[Yllana_Ardais]

They even lied to journalists although I haven't seen press call them out for it. The gamescom 2019 demo contained so much stuff that was cut from the game, the 2018 demo they later uploaded even more...
Real tangible information in the form of trailers/gameplay has been around for about 2 1/2 years and they promised us SO much...I mean, you can't expect companies to keep all their promises, but in this case, the cuts seem to have been massive. And they did way more PR and more aggressively than most other AAA companies (probably because it's their only ongoing IP atm), so everything they showed was taken very seriously.

If you don't want people to call you out for being liars, maybe don't make it sound like your game is the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[Motsie]

That disclaimer is bs and you know it. Just like saying that the game runs surprisingly well on console. It's surprising that it runs at all.

It's just like the bs ubisoft pulled off with watchdogs.


No dlc in the world can undo the sorry state it was released in and unless they finish the game with free patches, I absolutely don't see any form of redemption for this.

It's the truth. They were fairly open about the stuff they did end up cutting like wall-running, apartments, etc. Some features were straight up never promised and were only believed to be features because it showed up in the trailer.

Like I said already, the dismal state of the game (on consoles) is where I feel they lied to people, including the media who couldn't even review the game on consoles. It was a conscious decision to cover that up which was straight from the top.

 

[Yllana_Ardais]

What about the gameplay demos? NCW? They told untruths about many more things than just the technical state of the game. And what's wors, thechnical stuff can be fixed relatively easy, whereas story and gameplay content has to be added in a way that doesn't break the whole plot/worldbuilding even more.

 

[Maxisspl4774]

This is possible... but would not make much sense from a business standpoint. I suspect a huge reason for shipping the game in the state it was in was due to it being in development for so long. Investors and devs had been working on Cyberpunk in full production mode for at least 6 years, and investors likely wanted to see some return on investment (this does not excuse potential bad production practices by CDPR, just speculation). For this reason, I think it's in their best interest to utilize this game for as much content as possible. CDPR also announced Cyberpunk 2077 would have more DLC than The Witcher 3 had, so take that for what it's worth.

I've seen it brought up multiple times that Witcher 4 is next for the studio, and for that reason Cyberpunk will fall on the back burner - this is entirely incorrect. Sure, Witcher 4 may be entering pre-production, but it will not take away resources and focus on the current game - Cyberpunk 2077

Full production mode launched in 2016

 

[Kymodoke]

Every ending is horrible.
No way to save V... FUCK !

Had such a good time in Night City.
But the endings spoil the hole game for me, dont even care for it any more.

 

[Vitalurg]

Every ending is horrible.
No way to save V... FUCK !

Had such a good time in Night City.
But the endings spoil the hole game for me, dont even care for it any more.

We have many ways to save V

 

[Maxisspl4774]

I hope that's true, but I remember similar statements about "The Saboteur", "Mass Effect 3" and "ME Andromeda" ...

I think that they main focus now is repairing cp2077 and releasing expansions. But the next big game planned is witcher 4 and after that we may see cp2077-2 or whatever.

 

[Kymodoke]

We have many ways to save V

No you cant. V is dead in 6 Month or not even human any more.
Not very happy emdings...

 

[naddaya]

Adding a post ending DLC that makes the endings converge into a single storyline and continues V's story before adding midgame content would make the most sense to me. My biggest issue with replayability is V's set (more or less) fate and the urgency of the main plot which makes it hard to justify doing side gigs. Act 3 felt like another prologue, there are many ways lore friendly ways to cure V's illness and the premises of all endings are so interesting that it's a shame to leave them up in the air (Crystal Palace, Mr Blue Eyes and the Peralez conspiracy, the nomads and Stormtech, Alt's plans, the price to pay for Arasaka's deal, etc). I also really like V, they went through enough and deserve a break.

Act 1 would be pretty easy to expand with more stories about V and Jackie starting out as mercs and doing odd jobs, with the bonus of lacking the constant threat of imminent death.

No you cant. V is dead in 6 Month or not even human any more.
Not very happy emdings...

That's open to interpretation, especially in The Sun/The Star endings.

 

[Maxisspl4774]

What about the gameplay demos? NCW? They told untruths about many more things than just the technical state of the game. And what's wors, thechnical stuff can be fixed relatively easy, whereas story and gameplay content has to be added in a way that doesn't break the whole plot/worldbuilding even more.

Imo the actual gameplay of the game is not even close to gameplay demos. The worst thing they did there is showing 2 missions where u actually could take a different routes to achieve your target(Animals in Pacifica and Maelstrom missions) and unfortunately they were only 2 missions in the game that had something like this. Also even in Maelstrom mission gameplay demo have way more options than the actual game :/
The NCW lied in many moments especially with BD's. The first NCW was fully focused on them and also introduced Judy. They did a 25 minute video about a feature that we use 7 times during the game(counting main missions+sidequests). 7 Bd's that u can walkthrough in maybe 40 minutes where the judy tutorial is the longest one. The same goes with the whole "style is everything". We end up wearing awful clothes just because they have better stats xd.