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Mike_Orr

Mike_Orr

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Dec 21, 2020
We got left off on, still dying and breaking into casino. So the path is pretty clear.
Not exactly sure what they will do with the other endings. The Pan and Johnny ones.
 
JubJub154

JubJub154

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Dec 21, 2020
I strongly believe there's more evidence to point towards there being DLC following 'V' after the story ends. Its really just a matter of where it will take us. I feel its pretty clear that the next major DLC will likely take place in Space, which I would say has to come after the story. But I guess we'll have to wait and see how they tie it into the story.

There are a few things that I do not want DLC wise: (1) An Episodes of Liberty City style of DLC, where you play as another character during the main story of the game. You cross paths with 'V" a couple times, but it is its own story. I don't want that at all. Its a possibility. Though I would say less likely for an RPG like this though, but not impossible. (2) A "Total Recall" like story where 'V' checks out into a world that isn't theirs, to allow us to play with a non health declining 'V' for an extended period of time. All the while their is 0 outcomes on the real world outside of this and you still end up dying. (3) Anything with Johnny (Unless its bringing 'V' back). They gave us Johnny's story and for me, I'm satisfied with it not continuing it. (4) Any *big* stories that branch off for 'V" in the middle of the game. I don't want their to be a space heist before the ending of the game and I feel I would be essentially being lore breaking.

I'm sure there are many other things I could say I wouldn't be interested in, but as I've said before time and time again, give me a solid epilogue DLC for 'V' and then I wont care if any of the above are added.
 
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Cryptek768

Cryptek768

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#143
Dec 21, 2020
JubJub154 said:
I strongly believe there's more evidence to point towards there being DLC following 'V' after the story ends. Its really just a matter of where it will take us. I feel its pretty clear that the next major DLC will likely take place in Space, which I would say has to come after the story. But I guess we'll have to wait and see how they tie it into the story.

There are a few things that I do not want DLC wise: (1) An Episodes of Liberty City style of DLC, where you play as another character during the main story of the game. You cross paths with 'V" a couple times, but it is its own story. I don't want that at all. Its a possibility. Though I would say less likely for an RPG like this though, but not impossible. (2) A "Total Recall" like story where 'V' checks out into a world that isn't theirs, to allow us to play with a non health declining 'V' for an extended period of time. All the while their is 0 outcomes on the real world outside of this and you still end up dying. (3) Anything with Johnny (Unless its bringing 'V' back). They gave us Johnny's story and for me, I'm satisfied with it not continuing it. (4) Any *big* stories that branch off for 'V" in the middle of the game. I don't want their to be a space heist before the ending of the game and I feel I would be essentially being lore breaking.

I'm sure there are many other things I could say I wouldn't be interested in, but as I've said before time and time again, give me a solid epilogue DLC for 'V' and then I wont care if any of the above are added.
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I think it will be a flash like the first 6 months of the game to see what happens in relation to the different end then the start of the dlc and the rest to have the end of the story.

because the intros would be
end in the net = flash of V's life in it.

end of Johnny:
flash with johnny's beginnings in the new area in V's body

end of 6 months to live:
V uses the new means acquired to find a lead.

then the start of the dlc
 
JubJub154

JubJub154

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#144
Dec 21, 2020
Cryptek768 said:
I think it will be a flash like the first 6 months of the game to see what happens in relation to the different end then the start of the dlc and the rest to have the end of the story.

because the intros would be
end in the net = flash of V's life in it.

end of Johnny:
flash with johnny's beginnings in the new area in V's body

end of 6 months to live:
V uses the new means acquired to find a lead.

then the start of the dlc
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Hopefully they fix the game up by the end of January, so that they can start announcing where they plan on taking the story. I just hope what ever they come out with it continues the dynamic between 'V' and Panam, because they can do so much more than just what was in the main game. I really want to see an Aldecados DLC, thats really it.
 
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poldengonyboy

poldengonyboy

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#145
Dec 21, 2020
JubJub154 said:
Hopefully they fix the game up by the end of January, so that they can start announcing where they plan on taking the story. I just hope what ever they come out with it continues the dynamic between 'V' and Panam, because they can do so much more than just what was in the main game. I really want to see an Aldecados DLC, thats really it.
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Same here, I really really really hope we will get more Panam. I have hope though, even if we don't get an Arizona DLC I would actually be surprised if after all of the DLC and expansions come out we don't see anymore of her at all. Luckily for us she is a pretty crucial part of the story arguably even more so than Judy who has more content than Panam at this point in time. I really think CDPR has more plans for her and potentially the aldecaldos though, based on what I've said in the post.
 
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Maxisspl4774

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#146
Dec 21, 2020
Well i have a question, have u ever seen DLC in RPG game where u don't play as the main character?
In games like gta it's possible because u don't level up your character there. I have never seen a RPG game where the dlc forces you to control other character for entire playthrough. So i thinkthat for 100% we will play as V in the DLC's . I think that we should care more about the fact that the dlc's may take place midgame, But i think that won't happen. Even Witcher 3 dlc's were designed to be played after main story(even if u were able to play them before actual ending) because Blood and wine dlc was a giant way to say goodbye to geralt(witcher 4 probably will not include him). main witcher storyline was focused on finding ciri before she will be found by wild hunt so you had time factor cursing on you, just like with V's biochip.
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JubJub154 said:
Hopefully they fix the game up by the end of January, so that they can start announcing where they plan on taking the story. I just hope what ever they come out with it continues the dynamic between 'V' and Panam, because they can do so much more than just what was in the main game. I really want to see an Aldecados DLC, thats really it.
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The game will be fixed by the end of february i guess. But the cdpr team is low on morale now. The devs are mad about crunch that is happening there for a few months now. THEY ARE WORKING 6 DAYS IN A WEEK since AUGUST. The devs are mad about the fact that the team that made commercials lied to customers about the state of the game, everybody in january last year knew that cyberpunk is unplayable yet but the commercials said that the game is almost finished lol. Working as game developer is one of the worst jobs i could ever think about. The companies are treating their workers so poorly :(. Devs said that they were always saying that releasing the game in april 2020 is not possible. All of this came out to the spotlight 2 or 3 days ago. I think that if the game had some more time it would launch in almost perfect state and we will avoid things like a lawsuit against cdp for lying about the game state on ps4/xbox one. I
 
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TokyoSatsu

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Dec 21, 2020
I might have an unpopular opinion but I really don't want them to shove an ending I didn't choose and force me to start with panam as I actually don't care about panam or nomads at all. I went with two different endings, one with V letting Orsaka use the cyberprison until they can find a body or "need" V and my other ending was letting Johnny take over V's body. I love Night City and couldn't care less about badlands and personally loved Johnny and seeing him change.

I hope the DLC can let me decide if Johnny finds a way to bring V back or Oraska bring me back for whatever reason and still be able to interact with Takemura as I also enjoyed that character.
 
JubJub154

JubJub154

Forum regular
#148
Dec 21, 2020
Maxisspl4774 said:
Well i have a question, have u ever seen DLC in RPG game where u don't play as the main character?
In games like gta it's possible because u don't level up your character there. I have never seen a RPG game where the dlc forces you to control other character for entire playthrough. So i thinkthat for 100% we will play as V in the DLC's . I think that we should care more about the fact that the dlc's may take place midgame, But i think that won't happen. Even Witcher 3 dlc's were designed to be played after main story(even if u were able to play them before actual ending) because Blood and wine dlc was a giant way to say goodbye to geralt(witcher 4 probably will not include him). main witcher storyline was focused on finding ciri before she will be found by wild hunt so you had time factor cursing on you, just like with V's biochip.
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The game will be fixed by the end of february i guess. But the cdpr team is low on morale now. The devs are mad about crunch that is happening there for a few months now. THEY ARE WORKING 6 DAYS IN A WEEK since AUGUST. The devs are mad about the fact that the team that made commercials lied to customers about the state of the game, everybody in january last year knew that cyberpunk is unplayable yet but the commercials said that the game is almost finished lol. Working as game developer is one of the worst jobs i could ever think about. The companies are treating their workers so poorly :(. Devs said that they were always saying that releasing the game in april 2020 is not possible. All of this came out to the spotlight 2 or 3 days ago. I think that if the game had some more time it would launch in almost perfect state and we will avoid things like a lawsuit against cdp for lying about the game state on ps4/xbox one. I
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I far I can remember I haven't seen an RPG that you play as another character. Clearly the devs are looking to create an experience that's new so anything is possible. But I do agree with you it is extremely unlikely that this will happen (Which I'm very content with). In regards to the devs, they totally got F'd over by their publisher. Once this game is fixed it will be a game of the year for 2021. No doubt in my mind.
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TokyoSatsu said:
I might have an unpopular opinion but I really don't want them to shove an ending I didn't choose and force me to start with panam as I actually don't care about panam or nomads at all. I went with two different endings, one with V letting Orsaka use the cyberprison until they can find a body or "need" V and my other ending was letting Johnny take over V's body. I love Night City and couldn't care less about badlands and personally loved Johnny and seeing him change.

I hope the DLC can let me decide if Johnny finds a way to bring V back or Oraska bring me back for whatever reason and still be able to interact with Takemura as I also enjoyed that character.
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Thats where I see post game DLC being a small issue, but I think that they will find a way to mend the endings together somehow.
 
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TokyoSatsu

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Dec 21, 2020
JubJub154 said:
Thats where I see post game DLC being a small issue, but I think that they will find a way to mend the endings together somehow.
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I hope so cause I would even rather play as a whole new character then be stuck with Panam and the Nomads.
 
Motsie

Motsie

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#150
Dec 21, 2020
Crystal palace would be the merging point for most of the paths. V tells Mr. Blue Eyes (MBE) to uphold his end of the bargain following the heist, which is not explained in any detail. The only thing we know is that it's important enough to accept a suicide mission over.

Keep in mind that V doesn't need to remain in Nightcity to go up to the Crystal Palace so it can be the case where MBE contacts V and offers him something he can't refuse. V in Tucson/Nightcity takes a shuttle arranged by MBE, they go into space, do some elaborate heist, and you find yourself back down in Nightcity trailing after the remaining pieces of the puzzle.

This opens up the rest of the map for you so you can do any gigs you may have missed, and also do the side quests that come with the DLC (like Hearts of Stone). It'll feel less awkward than some weird sub-plot in the middle of Act 2 where you're on the clock.
 
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jahkin

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#151
Dec 21, 2020
Motsie said:
Crystal palace would be the merging point for most of the paths. V tells Mr. Blue Eyes (MBE) to uphold his end of the bargain following the heist, which is not explained in any detail. The only thing we know is that it's important enough to accept a suicide mission over.

Keep in mind that V doesn't need to remain in Nightcity to go up to the Crystal Palace so it can be the case where MBE contacts V and offers him something he can't refuse. V in Tucson/Nightcity takes a shuttle arranged by MBE, they go into space, do some elaborate heist, and you find yourself back down in Nightcity trailing after the remaining pieces of the puzzle.

This opens up the rest of the map for you so you can do any gigs you may have missed, and also do the side quests that come with the DLC (like Hearts of Stone). It'll feel less awkward than some weird sub-plot in the middle of Act 2 where you're on the clock.
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I really like that. Except for the bullet to the head-ending you can indeed use this for all other endings (though the Johnny Ending might be hardest to write around).

And with this Mr.s BlueEyes you also might have a good antagonist for the DLC.

I wonder if there are any "mysterious" or vanished important chars of Cyberpunk-Lore that could be revealed to be him.

Or - more likely, he is something like an Avatar of an intelligent AI from beyond the Blackwall? Something like Alt? Maybe even all "souls" that got killed by soulkiller, and merged into this being mad for seeking revenge, and now wanting "V" to be its tool to get vengeance?

I could see some nice story-potential there. And due to a connection to the soulkiller-program it could open the door and be the driving point for V to help the MBE-Creature to get her life back...

Damn, I hope something like that or similar. And without "V" thenbeing forced to choose between killing 40 million people and her own life or some "heroic sacrifice"/meaningful choice - bullshit like that...
 
JubJub154

JubJub154

Forum regular
#152
Dec 21, 2020
jahkin said:
I really like that. Except for the bullet to the head-ending you can indeed use this for all other endings (though the Johnny Ending might be hardest to write around).

And with this Mr.s BlueEyes you also might have a good antagonist for the DLC.

I wonder if there are any "mysterious" or vanished important chars of Cyberpunk-Lore that could be revealed to be him.

Or - more likely, he is something like an Avatar of an intelligent AI from beyond the Blackwall? Something like Alt? Maybe even all "souls" that got killed by soulkiller, and merged into this being mad for seeking revenge, and now wanting "V" to be its tool to get vengeance?

I could see some nice story-potential there. And due to a connection to the soulkiller-program it could open the door and be the driving point for V to help the MBE-Creature to get her life back...

Damn, I hope something like that or similar. And without "V" thenbeing forced to choose between killing 40 million people and her own life or some "heroic sacrifice"/meaningful choice - bullshit like that...
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I think certain endings in the game aren't really intended for the story to continue, sort of like I said about Fallout, its not intended for "The Lone Wanderer" or the 'Courier" to be a villain, but its possible for the sake of player choice/immersion. So this might be the case with the suicide endings, its clear that 'V' is determined to live, so I think the endings where he dies and the secret endings aren't something that will be worked with.
 
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Motsie

Motsie

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Dec 21, 2020
Yeah exactly. The Fallout 1 ending where you just accept turning into a super-mutant is not the game's ending. It's an option for roleplayers that agree with the Master. The suicide, Johnny, and Mikoshi endings are dead ends - more so than the others. They are just there for player choice.
 
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azaghul8

azaghul8

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Dec 21, 2020
JubJub154 said:
So Ive been playing around for about 20 minutes, I was able to glitch out of the map where you would drive out with Panam at the end, that whole entire area is loaded and has triggers for a blimp to spawn. that cutscene over the water is loaded into the game. apparently at all times. Which is interesting even the exit is loaded at the end of the tunnel. Maybe this is a way to get back and forth from a potential expansion. From presumably Arizona back to NC.
***Didnt see the post above me***
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So basically the area where we cross to in the Nomad endings has these placeholders or assets? Either it's cut content or a future dlc.
 
Ends1eg

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Dec 21, 2020
One thing about the Johnny ending... From a purely logistical point of view, I don't think it is possible that we will ever play full time as Johnny. Getting an actor like that to voice a character in a DLC and a player character just seems like too much. They might not even have him playing any significant role in the DLC, other than maybe the beginning, and he might have already done the acting for that. I'm assuming that, if they let people continue with their Johnny ending, they will be having Johnny revive V somehow. The lack of Johnny with all other endings seems obvious enough.

Edit: Unless they completely cut out Keanu, and everything is exactly the same for the player, like the voice, but you are still "Johnny". I think that would be pretty cheesy though.

Cryptek768 said:
there is no bad end in itself but rather the feeling of V and Johnny at this time.

It's not because V dies that it's bad we're no longer shown how V and Johnny feel towards each other at the end on the last path V takes.

because Johnny as he says would have taken control of V's body long before if he wanted to. He leaves a chance that V is master of his destiny and he is even ready to "sacrifice" for V.

I think Misty and the one who will show us the rest of the adventure because the first scanner tarot card is not placed by chance in night city.

even if there is a chance that she is wrong and yet neither V nor Johnny understands why he sees the cards in NC.
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Welp, you just helped me want to fire the game back up today.
 
Cryptek768

Cryptek768

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Dec 21, 2020
Ends1eg said:
One thing about the Johnny ending... From a purely logistical point of view, I don't think it is possible that we will ever play full time as Johnny. Getting an actor like that to voice a character in a DLC and a player character just seems like too much. They might not even have him playing any significant role in the DLC, other than maybe the beginning, and he might have already done the acting for that. I'm assuming that, if they let people continue with their Johnny ending, they will be having Johnny revive V somehow. The lack of Johnny with all other endings seems obvious enough.

Edit: Unless they completely cut out Keanu, and everything is exactly the same for the player, like the voice, but you are still "Johnny". I think that would be pretty cheesy though.



Welp, you just helped me want to fire the game back up today.
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Glad you can enjoy one more.
For voice remember it's Johnny in the body of V so ...
 
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Maxisspl4774

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#157
Dec 21, 2020
Well i got idea of one DLC, i dunno how it will work out. So we meet voodoo boys for i dunno like 1 hour in the main storyline, but they planned something big. The heist in the act 1 was their plan and they took interest in relic. They needed help of ALT to reach something that was behind the blackwall and i think that maybe the first smaller dlc that would take place in night city may be about it. Let's say that alt saw what Voodoo boys are planning and she need V's help to stop it.
Ends1eg said:
One thing about the Johnny ending... From a purely logistical point of view, I don't think it is possible that we will ever play full time as Johnny. Getting an actor like that to voice a character in a DLC and a player character just seems like too much. They might not even have him playing any significant role in the DLC, other than maybe the beginning, and he might have already done the acting for that. I'm assuming that, if they let people continue with their Johnny ending, they will be having Johnny revive V somehow. The lack of Johnny with all other endings seems obvious enough.

Edit: Unless they completely cut out Keanu, and everything is exactly the same for the player, like the voice, but you are still "Johnny". I think that would be pretty cheesy though.



Welp, you just helped me want to fire the game back up today.
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Well actually it's a good point about WHY we will not get midgame dlc's. They would have to involve Keanu and we all know that he is a busy man, he is acting in many movies so it would be difficult for him to find time to help in making DLC's im not even saying about the money. But maybe they have all voicelines recorded already? i dunno
 
JubJub154

JubJub154

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Dec 21, 2020
Maxisspl4774 said:
Well i got idea of one DLC, i dunno how it will work out. So we meet voodoo boys for i dunno like 1 hour in the main storyline, but they planned something big. The heist in the act 1 was their plan and they took interest in relic. They needed help of ALT to reach something that was behind the blackwall and i think that maybe the first smaller dlc that would take place in night city may be about it. Let's say that alt saw what Voodoo boys are planning and she need V's help to stop it.

Well actually it's a good point about WHY we will not get midgame dlc's. They would have to involve Keanu and we all know that he is a busy man, he is acting in many movies so it would be difficult for him to find time to help in making DLC's im not even saying about the money. But maybe they have all voicelines recorded already? i dunno
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I think its likely they have everything that they want with him, If in fact they had already planned on making DLC with him involved. There's almost definitely going to be mid game additions, I think no matter what. Its just the big expansions that I see being post main story. Its really all that would make sense without changing characters or potentially messing up the story.
 
Cryptek768

Cryptek768

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#159
Dec 21, 2020
and if everything is linked with the events external to NC.

Why do nomad clans regroup?

The business peralez what will happen with mister blue eyes ?

What about the vodoo boys?

***** (spoils) *****
because if we leave placid alive while we attack voodoo it sends us a warning message to pay attention to our rear.
 
JubJub154

JubJub154

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Dec 22, 2020
Well let me put a question out their for any of you to answer. Where do you believe major DLC will take us? We've heard space casino heist and arizona/tuscon dlc so far.
 
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