Why do you need to find a way to justify his actions? Why can't he just be a raging asshole? Some people are just like that, with zero justification.
All the more reason to get rid of him!Why do you need to find a way to justify his actions? Why can't he just be a raging asshole? Some people are just like that, with zero justification.
I was thinking about that the other day. It's my very personal grip so if you don't agree - you have right, I won't argue.
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So I quite don't understand narrative pushed on me that Jhonny deserves any different treatment, sympathy or second chance. Redemtion? Forgivness? Guy detonate a GOD DUCK NUCLEAR WARHEAD. Half million people are killed . HALF MILLION. Workers, people in parking lot, people that was driving cars, people in cafes, people who were going back from home, working overhours. Again, not evil Arasaka overlords, not CEOs, workers. Even dam Arasaka guards/soldiers were just there doing their job. How many more died from fallout?
Jhonny did that because he believed what he did was just. He believed that Arasaka is symbol of evil. That Corporations are symbol of evil and people that don't agree with him are no better than Arasaka. But he didn't just destroy tower. He murdered people. Night City citizies. Husbands, fathers, mothers, sons etc. He murdered people for his agenda.
There is no difference between those two acts. Both were out of hatred and act of terror that targeted innocent people behind the banner of "Fighting for Greater Good". World held breath over 2973, saying "never negotiate with terrorist. No forgiveness for terror". Here we have half million people killed.
Yet in game you have "Silverhand Special" drink? Jhonny the Night City Legend? Is that a joke? How is he different from Al Kaida?
Now I am not American even. But there is something wrong in trying to justify terrorism in any way. There is no forgiveness for it.
People say that Jhonny is great character. I disagree with it. He is god dam mass murderer, no better than Saburo or Yorinobu or those from our reality that destroyed WTC, shot people in Paris cafe or bombed Moskov metro. You think he is cool guy cause he drink, smokes, play rock and has witty dialogues? What about half million dead innocent people? You think they families would find Jhoony a great character? Cool guy.
At the end of the game it really made me sick of game story trying me to sympatise with terrorist. Seriously, there is something wrong with it. "I know I did many things wrong". Really? You did? I don't think Jhonny ever really understands that he make half million people die, and made thousands families cry in pain.
That is my take on it. Yes, it's personal, but I feel like I should have said it.
In 2023, Johnny, alongside Rogue, Morgan Blackhand, Shaitan, Thompson, and Spider Murphy led a Militech assault team on the Arasaka American HQ in Night City, with the intention of ending the Fourth Corporate War by destroying the tower with a mini nuke. Johnny had another reason for going back to the Arasaka offices, he wanted to find Cunningham, but there were more than a few obstacles in the way. The biggest obstacle was a Borg, Adam Smasher, a once man who was now more machine than flesh.
On August 20, 2023, an incursion team led by Solo Morgan Blackhand and Rockerboy Johnny Silverhand attempted an infiltration mission to steal/destroy the Arasaka Secure Reliquary Database in the Arasaka Towers facility. During the assault, an area denial nuclear device, or "pocket nuke" was planned to be detonated in the building, with the planned area to absorb the impact of the blast and prevent massive destruction. However, due to interference by Arasaka and Adam Smasher, the nuclear device prematurely detonating on the 120th floor, 366 meters above the ground, destroying much of central Night City. Over a half million people are killed. Another quarter million die in the resulting aftermath. - Red Worldbook
I mean it's fiction. Do you feel outraged over all the people you kill in all your video games? I mean, are you outraged when over all the poor sons and mothers you ran over in GTA V and do you feel a need to compare it to a school shooting?
I did. And I still think that he's a terrorist, who killed thousands of innocent people. "Oh no! They killed my gf, so I'll destroy half of the city!"Silverhand is not a terrorist. When you finish the whole story, you'll know.
At the end of the game it really made me sick of game story trying me to sympatise with terrorist.
It is. Same way TLOU2 was trying to make me sympathize Abby.The GAME isn't trying to get you to sympathize with a terrorist.
It is.
I did. And I still think that he's a terrorist, who killed thousands of innocent people. "Oh no! They killed my gf, so I'll destroy half of the city!"
Stupid, childish, selfish, annoying mf.
As he said himself once (don't remember when exactly), in some random conversation - he thinks it was worth it.
The word "war" is not really suitable.It is not.
But the fact remains he is not a terrorist at least no in this instance anyway. A drunken drug snorting ass and tough to like for sure. However, it was war not some random act of terrorism and not the first time the two corps involved had been the cause of mass civilian casualties. I mean there was a city where those two corps, Arasaka and Militech, unleashed bio/chemical weapons that killed every single living thing in a mega-city. In Cyberpunk 2077 Johnny is just the strawman for that event in Night City even though it was a Militech Operation.
Yes it is. It was during the Fourth Corporate War. So it is quite suitable.The word "war" not really suitable.
Just some drunk as..hole blew a bunch of innicents, and got what he deserves.
You've been manipulated by the writers.
That sounded like it was a good thing. Like, "hey, the war ended!"Maybe so. But I'll remind you that in our own universe there is a country that deployed not one but two nuclear weapons in hopes of ending a war. In both universes those wars came to an end.
That sounded like it was a good thing. Like, "hey, the war ended!"
And how does that justify Johnny's actions?
Nobody didnt give him any orders, he was not a soldier. It was he's revenge. And he didnt give a fck about those who died in the process. ( and still doesnt)
Like I said - stupid, childish, selfish mf.