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Stealth: list of bugs & issues (please contribute)

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steng4h

steng4h

Senior user
#1
Dec 11, 2020
Hi,
I was very excited to see Stealth was one of the playstyles available, and I started a stealth play-through,
However this game doesn't seem designed for stealth, it's either unsatisfying, broken, or simply not possible.

Here are some issues I encountered, that could be fixed.
  1. NPCs like Jackie are invisible to enemies, they can also talk and NPCs won't hear it. (see screenshot below)
  2. NPCs do not seem to notice when I open doors, elevators etc. in front of them.
  3. There is no way to distract NPCs like whistling or throwing an item. Only by hacking, which is OK but in many cases not possible due to NPC location.
Here are some issues I encountered, that are so profound they likely can't be fixed
  1. Many missions in which it's impossible to play stealth due to scripted actions etc.
  2. In many areas there's just one way forward (unlike games like Hitman, Deus Ex etc.)
Finally, some disappointments:
  1. The stealth skill tree is mostly about poisons
  2. NPCs are mostly stupid, they either just stare at walls and stay in one place.
  3. Game is a lot about hacking, yet there's no way to use hack to avoid alarms being triggered.
I hope this feedback can be useful - please contribute if you noticed other bugs or issues.
I hope the bugs outlined (first section) can at least be fixed so that other players have a better experience that the one I'm currently having.




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SakariFoxx

Senior user
#2
Dec 11, 2020
You understand how infuriating it would be, if your companions broke your stealth? There is a reason why god of war and last of us made npc ignore your companions.

There is a way to distract, its a quick hack, explore the vendors more.

There are some parts of missions that wil go loud you just have to plan for it.

THe rest of your complaints are player errors. I am playing stealth + katana only, ive yet to find an unavoidable alarm or places with one route.
 
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skycraven

skycraven

Fresh user
#3
Dec 11, 2020
I wish dashing (double tapping a movement key) would either keep you in stealth mode or be disabled while sneaking. Oftentimes I'll be behind cover trying to look at enemies or cameras, and I accidentally dash and become spotted.
 
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--Kory--

--Kory--

Forum regular
#4
Dec 12, 2020
NPCs that follow you should be non detectable, or else they'll ruin your gameplay over something stupid.
 
Suhiira

Suhiira

Forum veteran
#5
Dec 12, 2020
My #1 issue with stealth is the way dodge is a double tap on the movement key with M&K.

When stealthing you frequently need to tweak your position slightly when peeking/creeping around corners BUT this often results in your character dodging.

I've gotten into the habit of saving VERY frequently when trying to be stealthy due to this "feature".

I also love that some NPCs apparently have a 300 degree detection cone (regardless of what the visual que claims). Try to sneak up on them from any direction other then directly behind them they spot you near instantly.
 
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calsem

Fresh user
#6
Dec 12, 2020
In the fight with the Asian mob near the shipping crates near V's apartment stealth was a bit frustrating to use. The person leaning back against the crate kept on noticing me if I approached her from behind on the side, so I had to jump up on top of the crate to do a stealth takedown. I would suggest reducing the npc's field of view slightly.

I also had a issue where I blinded someone via a hack and tried to take them down but didn't see a option to do the takedown. Maybe I did something wrong, I'll have to see if I run into the issue again.
 
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ShuggyNuggy

ShuggyNuggy

Rookie
#7
Dec 12, 2020
I agree that the stealth feels broken, that's the biggest disappointment. Although, I've had the opposite problem with opening doors. I'll open a door to the back of the building thinking that no one sees me and then the entire bar is on high alert when I haven't even crossed into a hostile area. It feels like it escalates way too quickly. I'll be hiding behind a crate and try to do a quickhack but enemies in front of me immediately know where I am without actually spotting me or being prompted that they've triangulated my location.
 
thequillandbrush

thequillandbrush

Fresh user
#8
Dec 12, 2020
Yes, please let us disable or remap dodging on keyboard. When attempting to make slight movements as I stealth walk, I'll end up dashing/dodging right into the enemy.
 
Eycevein

Eycevein

Rookie
#9
Jan 2, 2021
TLDR; NPCs can see bodies they shouldn't be able to.

I am clearing out an area and hiding all of the bodies in the proper places (refrigerators, cars, dumpsters, etc...) but halfway through an area, if I am either holding onto a body for disposal or it stays on the ground too long (looting), the NPCs will act like they have seen the body even if they were on the other side of the warehouse with walls and other obstacles blocking their view.

Suuuuuuuper annoying bug. I've had to restart the latest save multiple times in multiple missions because of this.
 
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valkyrea

Fresh user
#10
Jan 2, 2021
skycraven said:
I wish dashing (double tapping a movement key) would either keep you in stealth mode or be disabled while sneaking. Oftentimes I'll be behind cover trying to look at enemies or cameras, and I accidentally dash and become spotted.
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Completely agree with you..... how many times i have side-dashed while trying to move behind someone. it's annoying.
 
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allandornothing

Forum regular
#11
Jan 2, 2021
Eycevein said:
TLDR; NPCs can see bodies they shouldn't be able to.

I am clearing out an area and hiding all of the bodies in the proper places (refrigerators, cars, dumpsters, etc...) but halfway through an area, if I am either holding onto a body for disposal or it stays on the ground too long (looting), the NPCs will act like they have seen the body even if they were on the other side of the warehouse with walls and other obstacles blocking their view.

Suuuuuuuper annoying bug. I've had to restart the latest save multiple times in multiple missions because of this.
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Same here. This happens to me constantly.
 
iCake

iCake

Senior user
#12
Jan 2, 2021
Suhiira said:
My #1 issue with stealth is the way dodge is a double tap on the movement key with M&K.

When stealthing you frequently need to tweak your position slightly when peeking/creeping around corners BUT this often results in your character dodging.

I've gotten into the habit of saving VERY frequently when trying to be stealthy due to this "feature".

I also love that some NPCs apparently have a 300 degree detection cone (regardless of what the visual que claims). Try to sneak up on them from any direction other then directly behind them they spot you near instantly.
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Yes, we need a dedicated dodge key, not this double tap contextual timing c*** that's bound to misfire. That's why I did this a few hours in my playthrough and never looked back, the game became so much better for it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/ka8s9i
 
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