Haven't wasted much money this sale since i already have way too many lying around but i got Dark Souls though, no idea why i haven't picked up it sooner, great game with some fixes.
Umair2012 said:
What you call ignorant and short sighted others call insightful and long sighted. People used to buy retail PC games all the time, with conservative DRM such as simple CD checks. I am a vehement DRM free supporter, and even I can name some specific things in which Steam has helped PC gaming: it makes games with difficult distribution, such as indies or smaller titles, more easily available to people worldwide, and its sales definitely boost lesser known titles.
However, people fail to see Steam has helped games more than it actually has helped PC gaming in the long term. It has created an entire generation of PC gamers who believe light DRM is no DRM, and others who don't mind DRM at all. It has created a culture in which online activation is seen as normal and where people think "achievements" are a good enough reason to not buy the DRM-free version. In the long run, what we truly want, whether you know it or not, are games that do not track our every move or limit how we play them. Thankfully Steam has moved in the right direction by allowing easy offline play. But ultimately, you are renting these games, as their license says. At least with a service like GOG or Desura you keep the installer, and do not depend on a third party to play the games you payed for.
So while I think Steam is not as bad as some people make it, I also think resisting is a respectable attitude in the world of massive consumerism we live in. If people had rejected the idea of online activation in the early days we wouldn't have to deal with it any longer.
When people complained about the Xbox One requiring a permanent connection (like some PC games do), you didn't really call them ignorant and short sighted right?
Steam has helped and hurt pc gaming I'd say about equally. But really the way things are going right now it won't change. There are things I really hate about steam and things I love about it. As far as the xbox one drm vs. steam drm, most complaints stemming from Xbox was because many do not have internet. And let's face it most people who have a pc are going to have internet. But we probably shouldn't try to get off topic and make the mods angry and bear lightning and torpedoes upon us.
Ontopic: so far I've yet to see anything that grasps me or what I don't already have, unfortunately.
Ontopic: so far I've yet to see anything that grasps me or what I don't already have, unfortunately.
Well I did a little bit of bargaining with the devil. All I was looking forward to was XCOM and that just happened now. Got that 75% off with the Slingshot pack which seems to contain missions. Don't care about DLC with items only.
Had to try 4 or 5 times before payment was processed. The site must be getting hammered right now.
Just in case anyone is interested, in the older thread titled "Steam Sales" I mentioned some buying tips I use. Here are some of them:
- On Steam, *never* buy anything at full price.
- On a Steam sale, if it isn't 50% or more off, don't buy it yet. Chances are it will be featured on the big sales or the flash sales eventually with a larger discount.
- If you missed a large discount, then WAIT. The game is bound to be on big sale again. Even the flash sales reappear.
- If a game you want hasn't been on big sale yet, WAIT! Chances are it will be, unless it is fairly new or perverse (like Skyrim).
- And finally, the most important of all: control yourself and do not buy games you won't play.
- To consider: if the game is available DRM-free somewhere else, isn't it worth supporting THAT instead?
Had to try 4 or 5 times before payment was processed. The site must be getting hammered right now.
Just in case anyone is interested, in the older thread titled "Steam Sales" I mentioned some buying tips I use. Here are some of them:
- On Steam, *never* buy anything at full price.
- On a Steam sale, if it isn't 50% or more off, don't buy it yet. Chances are it will be featured on the big sales or the flash sales eventually with a larger discount.
- If you missed a large discount, then WAIT. The game is bound to be on big sale again. Even the flash sales reappear.
- If a game you want hasn't been on big sale yet, WAIT! Chances are it will be, unless it is fairly new or perverse (like Skyrim).
- And finally, the most important of all: control yourself and do not buy games you won't play.
- To consider: if the game is available DRM-free somewhere else, isn't it worth supporting THAT instead?
If Steam's library was available DRM-free, I'd buy from whomever provided that service.
Okay, some more games to point out:
Winter Voices
Sequence
Bionic Commando (there's also Bionic Commando Rearmed (lulz)).
Rush Bros (love this) Better trailer.
Clive Barker's Jericho
And if you can, get Sonic All Stars Racing Tranformed. Best game I've played all year :]
Here's what I wrote about it at another place:
It can be fairly challenging for a racing game on harder modes, so that was interesting for me.
You basically start out with a few characters, and unlock the rest by doing races and challenges (pretty standard). My favourite challenge types are Vs. and Battle Race; the most boring is the Traffic challenge, imo. I don't want to spoil what these are by going into detail, but I will if you want.
I like the tracks, they're fun to look at and drive on, and there can be a few surprises in the race as you proceed, for example the road will suddenly run out and then you'll be flying in your car, which transformed into a little plane. It's really fun.
Okay, some more games to point out:
Winter Voices
Sequence
Bionic Commando (there's also Bionic Commando Rearmed (lulz)).
Rush Bros (love this) Better trailer.
Clive Barker's Jericho
And if you can, get Sonic All Stars Racing Tranformed. Best game I've played all year :]
Here's what I wrote about it at another place:
It can be fairly challenging for a racing game on harder modes, so that was interesting for me.
You basically start out with a few characters, and unlock the rest by doing races and challenges (pretty standard). My favourite challenge types are Vs. and Battle Race; the most boring is the Traffic challenge, imo. I don't want to spoil what these are by going into detail, but I will if you want.
I like the tracks, they're fun to look at and drive on, and there can be a few surprises in the race as you proceed, for example the road will suddenly run out and then you'll be flying in your car, which transformed into a little plane. It's really fun.
Lol , you took my comment far too seriously in wrong way . He said 'Aah the shit sales are up" , I said one should not be so short sighted and I love what CDPR and GOG are doing but most of the sales come from steam . Attract devs to release their games digitally , specially those who never worked on PC before and I agree with your comment . You took my comment in wrong way and wasted time to post something bigger that wasn't the point of my post ;-)Volsung said:
Volsung said:
I honestly think that all of us are not realizing that there is a better war to fight for which is how consoles disable future gaming technologies to come forward. Don't get me wrong the DRM vs Free DRM debate is relevant to the future of gaming, but this is more important.If you think about it console gaming has negatively effected PC gaming. The hardware eventually gets too old that developers have to invest money to customize the hardware requirements for consoles. The issue is that using old hardware doesn't unlock the potential of gaming. The so called "next generation" consoles are weak in terms of a developmental sense. Both use low-mid range graphics technologies such as the AMD 7790 (Xbox One) or AMD 7870 (PS4). Since console live spans last 8-10 years, many developers will be limited to create better graphical technologies and will be forced to make their games computable with the aging hardware.
I don't know, consoles have the potential to do some things right: http://www.polygon.com/2013/7/10/4511374/ps4-access-game-library-from-any-console
Correction: The Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 already support a cloud-based library with games purchased from the Xbox Live Marketplace and PlayStation Store, respectively, although Sony limits the number of PS3 consoles on which accounts can be authorized. We've edited the story above to reflect this.cmdrsilverbolt said:
I'll take the light, no-hassle, feature-filled DRM of Steam over more expensive retail copies ANY DAY. I simply don't have the luxury of being able to pay much for games. Thus, the culture of low-price PC Games Steam has kicked off is something essential to my lifestyle. That's all there is to it, for me. In a perfect world, everything would be GOG, but we make do with what we have. Also, I take a lot of screenshots, and chat with gamer buddies, and Steam's built-in functionality for both of these things is essential. (I published over 1000 Borderlands 2 screencaps to Facebook this week, to give you an idea how useful this feature is. And I communicate constantly with family and friends who game over Steamchat. It's indispensable.)
As for the Steam Sale itself. Do NOT buy from Steam until you've checked:
-Good Old Games
-Get Games Go
-Green Man Gaming
-Gamefly
-Amazon
All sell steamkeys, usually for cheaper than Steam. Steam has very few games that aren't available elsewhere for cheaper. Dealzon is an excellent deal aggregator.
As for the Steam Sale itself. Do NOT buy from Steam until you've checked:
-Good Old Games
-Get Games Go
-Green Man Gaming
-Gamefly
-Amazon
All sell steamkeys, usually for cheaper than Steam. Steam has very few games that aren't available elsewhere for cheaper. Dealzon is an excellent deal aggregator.
I'm relatively new to Steam, so some of the posts here made me think (especially .Volsung's), but I've still bought 6 games already on my first sale:
Hotline Miami
Hydrophobia: Prophecy
Psychonauts
Scratches: Director's Cut
Still Life
The Walking Dead
I'm currently thinking of buying the Legacy of Kain Collection for 6,45€ (-66%), but I'm not convinced it won't get cheaper in the future.
Hotline Miami
Hydrophobia: Prophecy
Psychonauts
Scratches: Director's Cut
Still Life
The Walking Dead
I'm currently thinking of buying the Legacy of Kain Collection for 6,45€ (-66%), but I'm not convinced it won't get cheaper in the future.
If you don't need it right now, I'd advice you to wait for another sale at GoG. They have the Legacy of Kain series, too, even including Blood Omen 2, although sadly the first Blood Omen is missing(, yet).siklara said:
After a slow start, the sale fever struck for the first time today, and Chivalry: Medieval Warfare is the first game I had not planned to buy. It always looked interesting to me, but also like it had quite a few issues and usually I get annoyed by competitive online games due to the poor community rather quickly - but I guess at less than €6 it's worth a shot. After all, I'm sure I'll get at least some 10 hours or so out of it which is a fair share of entertainment for the price. (Do I sound like I'm trying to justify it to myself? Damn it! )
gregski said:Got Chivalry too/> I wonder if Bioshock:Infinite will go lower than 50% off...
Give me a heads-up if it does, it's one I'm waiting for, and I still have problems accessing the Steam site so I'm only jumping through the required hoops when there's something I know I want.