The Exp curve for this game is broken, just like Witcher 2 before rebalance mode..

[eshrai]

The Exp curve for this game is broken, just like Witcher 2 before rebalance mode..

Okay. I have stopped playing the game because I don't find it remotely challenging. I am currently in Skellige, lvl 19 with cat gear, playing on death march. The main quest I have is lvl 13. I didn't even do all that many side quests, or explore White Orchard. Mainly main quests, contracts, and treasure hunting. I was lvl 16 when finishing up the last quests in Novigrad(enemies were lvl 12), but it gave me xp I didn't want. How did no one at cdpr see this? Why is it so easy to level up, and why are you giving me 500 xp everytime I finish something important? 2 of these and you gain a level, without even touching side quests. It was fine until lvl 11-12. Is it the gear? I don't even fkin know at this point, and I'm mad and sad that stupid shit like this has stopped me from playing my most anticipated game in years.

Some quotes by me further down in the thread, gonna put it up here all together.

"Basically, I have over-leveled without even doing much which in turn has diminished the challenge that this game once offered. Here is the xp curve of this game, http://i.imgur.com/lSRqi7n.png. You basically need 1k xp from 0 - 10, and then 1500 every level till 20, and 2k every level till 30. The exp required to get to 11 from 10, is the same as the exp required to get to 20 from 19. How does that make sense, especially when you gain higher exp in higher levels. "

"I don't want another Dark Souls, I am not looking for another Dark Souls. Like the title states, the exp curve for this game is stupid, and it has made things unnecessarily easy. I can only guess most people haven't been this far into the game, cause they should have encountered similar issues. Its a great rpg, doesn't mean it gets to force me to fight mobs that are 5 lvls or below me. I apologize for not being the kinda guy who likes to close his eyes and hack and slash through an rpg."

"This is what I'm talking about http://i.imgur.com/5pQVlwr.png
It might not be the greatest example, but yea. I'm lvl 19 while the dude is lvl 33. Playing on death march, no potions, no oils, barely breaking a sweat. I should have gotten completely destroyed, and I remember getting completely destroyed by a lvl 20 water hag when I was lvl 5. I don't know man.. "

 

[Aurugorn]

Okay. I have stopped playing the game because I don't find it remotely challenging. I am currently in Skellige, lvl 19 with cat gear, playing on death march. The main quest I have is lvl 13. I didn't even do all that many side quests, or explore White Orchard. Mainly main quests, contracts, and treasure hunting. I was lvl 16 when finishing up the last quests in Novigrad(enemies were lvl 12), but it gave me xp I didn't want. How did no one at cdpr see this? Why is it so easy to level up, and why are you giving me 500 xp everytime I finish something important? 2 of these and you gain a level, without even touching side quests. It was fine until lvl 11-12. Is it the gear? I don't even fkin know at this point, and I'm mad and sad that stupid shit like this has stopped me from playing my most anticipated game in years.

Not playing the game because of this is a mistake, you're missing out.

 

[eshrai]

It is most definitely not a mistake, as I don't find it challenging and frankly it feels like I have god mode cheat on. Whats the point of finishing the game on easy mode? I'd much rather wait for a response, or a xp tweak mod somewhere down the line. I am surprised this issue hasn't come up more often? Where did all the dark souls people go!

 

[ajgp85]

It's amusing we have this thread saying the game is too easy to out level, yet I have seen plenty from people complaining that you don't get enough experience from the game.

 

[Sardukhar]

I don't find it too easy at all.

There isn't level scaling in this game. If you are that much of a badass, go fight something level 27.

Next time you die, restart your game. Should add some tension to those fights.

Geralt is an amazing badass, but he doesn't get to reload.

And in Dark Souls...some people still complained the game was easy for them.

Thus we learn - some people will never be satisfied.

 

[eshrai]

I don't find it too easy at all.

There isn't level scaling in this game. If you are that much of a badass, go fight something level 27.

Next time you die, restart your game. Should add some tension to those fights.

Geralt is an amazing badass, but he doesn't get to reload.

And in Dark Souls...some people still complained the game was easy for them.

Thus we learn - some people will never be satisfied.

Thanks for the response, but I wasn't looking for a smug response from a mod without really commenting on the actual issue. The game isn't easy, it was very enjoyable up until lvl 11-12 in Velen. The game started going downhill after I got to Novigrad, and gained wayy too much xp without really doing much, which in turn gave me free stats and stronger than I need to be. The last quest alone gave me 2 lvls, and now instead of being green, the main quests are grayed out as I have become stronger than needed. Let alone people who are playing on lower difficulties and tend to explore the map and lots of ?, they will be even higher level. I have already skipped a lot of side quests, not by choice, but so that I stop getting that 50(+- 250) xp since they add up. I remember same thing happened in Witcher 2. I mentioned Dark Souls cause I saw some posts here, and thought at least that fanbase would recognize the issue.

 

[byghostlight]

I am normally the first to complain about outleveling a game, as a completionist I always find myself way ahead of the XP curve but this game even in completionist mode I am always behind the XP curve. Its lovely to have it happen in a game once. I have no idea why its so off for you. Maybe it is actually worth your while to go back to the start and do all the sidequests, not only are they the best and most satisfying part of the game, but the little xp you will get from them will be more helpful. Keep the higher missions at bay for a while, because if you have jumped ahead XP wise you will just keep making it worse.

Though I say that as a person who is never motivated by XP. I would happily spent hours doing grey quests to get my moneys worth and to expose myself to as much of the game as I can.

I find the combat of the Witcher games a lot like Dark Souls, in such a way that it has a high learning curve and is unforgiving but once you train yourself you realise it really isnt hard at all, even without good gear.

 

[Gh0st787]

To be fair there is actually quests you can obtain for Skellige at level 13. The Black Pearl for example that allows you to jump back and forth between all the lands doing things around your level.

Also doing any quests or fighting any enemies higher then you nets you much more XP then things lower or equal level to you. You seem like the kind of person who has been tackling things higher leveled when you stumbled across them. Thus outleveling youraelf. This is also a vast open world and on a first playthrough it's impossible to get your quest progression perfect because you have no clue what's where. That's half the fun to most people.

I feel like as it was with Witcher 2 dark mode (in my opinion) becoming a god is less about an xp curve and more about the build and gear. Obviously your having an easy time if your specced into fast attack criticals with cat gear equipped. That's like +175% critical dmg. Pretty insane in any RPG. Try a more challenging build.

And asking where the dark souls people are well. There at dark souls or bloodborne. A place maybe you should be if your looking for this type of challenge in a game that is not of that type. Hard mode does not have to equal Dark Souls in every game.

In the end you shouldn't miss out on this game. Your only hurting yourself. Oppose some artifical challenges to yourself if you must. As stated above.

 

[SofaJockey]

... I wasn't looking for a smug response from a mod without really commenting on the actual issue. ...

A tart response follows from a tart OP.
The fanbase doesn't recognise the issue because the fanbase is by and large not having the issue, it would seem.
Stating opinion as fact (the game is 'broken' / it's 'stupid shit') is unlikely to win a warm reception.
The game is balanced around a range of player skills, but beyond that, to say '[how dare it give] me XP I didn't want' is behaving entitled.
Looks like you're at the top of the heap, good for you.

 

[Velegian]

Leveling up IS NOT easy, I'm 26 hours into the game and still level 4

 

[stanko11]

Here's a tip for you, take off all your armor and fight bare handed, there's a challenge for ye.

 

[shinstyle]

Wellllllllll OP has a point. in 75% of Velen you will be a demi-god by lvl 12. (Death march)
Still, you will die if you are not careful

 

[iReda]

What are you talking about? 500xp of a mission? Well tell me I'll do it straight away... It's very hard leveling up in the Witcher 3 I played 24 hours and still at lvl 8... 280/1000 already.

 

[dasega]

Okay. I have stopped playing the game because I don't find it remotely challenging. I am currently in Skellige, lvl 19 with cat gear, playing on death march. The main quest I have is lvl 13. I didn't even do all that many side quests, or explore White Orchard. Mainly main quests, contracts, and treasure hunting. I was lvl 16 when finishing up the last quests in Novigrad(enemies were lvl 12), but it gave me xp I didn't want. How did no one at cdpr see this? Why is it so easy to level up, and why are you giving me 500 xp everytime I finish something important? 2 of these and you gain a level, without even touching side quests. It was fine until lvl 11-12. Is it the gear? I don't even fkin know at this point, and I'm mad and sad that stupid shit like this has stopped me from playing my most anticipated game in years.

Agreed CDPR can you cut off half experience points from quests on death march? ATM I have tones of quests below my level and much to much money (!). Not everybody wants to do speedrun....... and with so many interest points and things to do leveling is too quick

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I don't find it too easy at all.

There isn't level scaling in this game. If you are that much of a badass, go fight something level 27.

Next time you die, restart your game. Should add some tension to those fights.

Geralt is an amazing badass, but he doesn't get to reload.

And in Dark Souls...some people still complained the game was easy for them.

Thus we learn - some people will never be satisfied.

It is not about being bad-ass but balancing the game, I have lots undone quests below my level just because I was exploring Valen now I am going to Skellige with level 19 to do quests with lvl 11 there, pointless.

 

[Robmomanjaro]

To be fair there is actually quests you can obtain for Skellige at level 13. The Black Pearl for example that allows you to jump back and forth between all the lands doing things around your level.

Also doing any quests or fighting any enemies higher then you nets you much more XP then things lower or equal level to you. You seem like the kind of person who has been tackling things higher leveled when you stumbled across them. Thus outleveling youraelf. This is also a vast open world and on a first playthrough it's impossible to get your quest progression perfect because you have no clue what's where. That's half the fun to most people.

I feel like as it was with Witcher 2 dark mode (in my opinion) becoming a god is less about an xp curve and more about the build and gear. Obviously your having an easy time if your specced into fast attack criticals with cat gear equipped. That's like +175% critical dmg. Pretty insane in any RPG. Try a more challenging build.

And asking where the dark souls people are well. There at dark souls or bloodborne. A place maybe you should be if your looking for this type of challenge in a game that is not of that type. Hard mode does not have to equal Dark Souls in every game.

In the end you shouldn't miss out on this game. Your only hurting yourself. Oppose some artifical challenges to yourself if you must. As stated above.

I'm a Dark Souls player and I'm balls deep in this game. I'm playing a moresword mage build and the game is super hard. I'm like level 11 have 53 hours in according the my Xbox. Died 121 times. I have to plan most of monster fights. The no healing sucks. But it's fun. For the record I just finished the Family Matters/Coons quest line this morning and I'm level 11 like I said. However I have done many side quests and explored a little. Maybe you rushed the story? But you can play how you want. Howe've I imagine the intent of the game was for story focus more than game play.

 

[Sardukhar]

Yeah, I played DS as well and I find it super-hard as well.

I'm not sure if the OP finds it easy or if it's just that he wants a reward for his effort and without the reward he doesn't want to bother to do the quest.

That's up to him. I do quests because they are fun and challenging - not for the XP. Or the gear. The quests aren't there for XP, they are there so you can play the game. The XP is a reward for doing it - and to keep you capable of doing other higher quests.

If you've already outlevelled all the content, great! There is more to come. It's not expected you will need to do EVERY quest in order to stay level with EVERY other quest.

Could you imagine people flipping out if they found out they had to hit 75% or whatever quests to move onto a new area?


This is not an MMO. It does not emply MMO mechanics. Do the quests if they are interesting, not because you get a candy for it.

 

[eshrai]

No I don't want a reward dude. I don't know what the hell you're on about, or if you even completely read the post. I would LOVE to do all the quests, but whats the point if I can one shot the mobs? I would love to travel back and forth between zones, but currently I have no zones to backtrack, unless I wanna take on some lvl 10 mobs. Or I can do the main quest, and yes it gives 500 (five-hundred) experience points. The last few did at least. Basically, I have over-leveled without even doing much which in turn has diminished the challenge that this game once offered. Here is the xp curve of this game, http://i.imgur.com/lSRqi7n.png. You basically need 1k xp from 0 - 10, and then 1500 every level till 20, and 2k every level till 30. The exp required to get to 11 from 10, is the same as the exp required to get to 20 from 19. How does that make sense, especially when you gain higher exp in higher levels. This is what I'm hoping will be tweaked, or at the very least the modding scene will look into. I am loving the responses, take your armor off and fight barehand! What a suggestion!

 

[GlitzyTomb]

To be fair there was the whole Challenge Run thing for Dark Souls. If it's truly far too easy perhaps try using say Hunter Pants, Gloves, and Boots and either No Shirt or the Shirt shirt. Or rely only on the starter weapons?

Granted it's an artificial solution to the difficulty issues you are facing, but it's in the same vein as Lvl 1, Starter Gear, or RP runs from DS. I think I might actually try that eventually. Still getting wrecked for now.

 

[Martindnewton]

Its a forum that doesn't take criticism well man, even constructive. I have seen things defended in the most asinine of ways this last week or so, take Sardukhars post on the first page for example. Hope i dont run into the same problem though its a little too early to tell for me, enjoying the hell out of the difficulty. Would you say do side quests as soon as possible to avoid it? Kinda spreading them out between areas of interest.

 

[ManuW3]

I don't find it too easy at all.

There isn't level scaling in this game. If you are that much of a badass, go fight something level 27.

Next time you die, restart your game. Should add some tension to those fights.

Geralt is an amazing badass, but he doesn't get to reload.

And in Dark Souls...some people still complained the game was easy for them.

Thus we learn - some people will never be satisfied.

I played Dark souls 2 and I was eager for ng+ yet it I was too OP and it was too easy so I just stopped a quarter of the game in. Yet some of my friends dropped the game in frustration after not being able to pass the forest of fallen giants level. I guess difficulty is very subjective.

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Maybe enemies levelling with your character would have been better for this kind of game.