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dragonbird

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#1,561
Sep 20, 2014
.Volsung. said:
Very interesting, but why does it have to be Steam only? Arrrgh! At least it is multiplatform.

I know, sale and all, but how is it an expansion like "Gods and Kings" costs AS MUCH as the original game ($29.99)? Is it a standalone expansion of roughly the same hours and quality of gameplay? Seems ridiculous for an add-on.
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To be honest, yes, I think it is legitimate to a certain extent.
It's always difficult to evaluate Civ in terms of hours of gameplay because the value is in replaying using different Civs, different strategies and different victories. Both of the expansion packs give a massive increase in the number of replays you can do, by introducing new civs, and by bringing in big changes in the strategies. I'd say that I got more hours out of G&K than I did the vanilla game, and the same again out of BNW.
The counter-argument to that is that one of the reasons why G&K gave so many hours of play is that the vanilla version had flaws, and one of the reasons for getting more hours out of BNW is that the Diplomacy victory STILL sucked, even after G&K.

Regarding the new Civ, it's a different game (other-planet colonisation, and a cross between Civ and Alpha Centauri). I'd say the only reason to hold off because of it is if you prefer that to Civ itself, or because of the possibility of price discounts.


@Glaroug - Morocco trading was my first playthrough on BNW, the first time I'd ever enjoyed a Diplomacy strategy in Civ V. I prefer Arabia as an ICS Domination victory though, the camels are awesome. And my all-time favourite is still the Aztec Cultural Genocide Victory, which was only possible in G&K.

You guys are really tempting me to give up on Burial at Sea and play Civ again.
 
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volsung

Forum veteran
#1,562
Sep 20, 2014
Well I've had an itch to get more into turn based strategy. I'm looking at Age of Wonders 3 and Civ V. Do you have an opinion on AoW 3, @Dragonbird?

By the way, WASTELAND 2!
 
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freakie1one

Forum veteran
#1,563
Sep 20, 2014
.Volsung. said:
Well I've had an itch to get more into turn based strategy. I'm looking at Age of Wonders 3 and Civ V. Do you have an opinion on AoW 3, @Dragonbird?

By the way, WASTELAND 2!
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I've been playing Warlock: Master of the Arcane and it's a decent turn based strategy game similar to Civ 5. I picked it up when they were giving it away for free about a week ago. There's quite a bit of depth and complexity as you get further into the game.
 
sidspyker

sidspyker

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#1,564
Sep 20, 2014
Dragonbird said:
my all-time favourite is still the Aztec Cultural Genocide Victory
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:wat:
 
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volsung

Forum veteran
#1,565
Sep 20, 2014
freakie1one said:
I've been playing Warlock: Master of the Arcane and it's a decent turn based strategy game similar to Civ 5. I picked it up when they were giving it away for free about a week ago. There's quite a bit of depth and complexity as you get further into the game.
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Ii grabbed it too and played it obsessively last weekend. I did not want to admit to it because it's a Steam-only, Windows-only game. But it is damn good. Sat down to play for a few minutes and when I got up 5 hours had passed.
 
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dragonbird

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#1,566
Sep 20, 2014
.Volsung. said:
Well I've had an itch to get more into turn based strategy. I'm looking at Age of Wonders 3 and Civ V. Do you have an opinion on AoW 3, @Dragonbird?
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Nope. Civ was one of the first video games I ever bought, and I've always stuck with it for turn-based strategy.
@sidspyker. Yes, really :)
Generally, cultural victories in vanilla and G&K mean one or two cities only, weak on resources, weak militarily, stay friends with everyone, keep your head down and pray nobody notices you're about to win. The Aztec Cultural Genocide Victory is an alternative strategy based on the fact that the Aztec civ gets culture points for killing people. So you basically farm other civs, in a state of perpetual war. It was only possible in G&K.
 
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Alan989

Alan989

Forum veteran
#1,567
Sep 20, 2014
A little bit of info on the new Steam version of Quake by TotalBiscuit for those of you who are fans.

 
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octavian123

Forum veteran
#1,568
Sep 20, 2014
Still play it ocassionaly.
 
gregski

gregski

Moderator
#1,569
Sep 20, 2014
Been playing QL since it launched a few years ago, I got back to it recently and playing it daily again :)

The changes which have been introduced before the Steam launch, clearly labeled by id software as "ones that will bring Quake Live to wider audience" were I think the most straight-in-your-face dumbing down I have ever seen. And the new announcer voice is just terrible.
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

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#1,570
Sep 20, 2014
gregski said:
Been playing QL since it launched a few years ago, I got back to it recently and playing it daily again :)

The changes which have been introduced before the Steam launch, clearly labeled by id software as "ones that will bring Quake Live to wider audience" were I think the most straight-in-your-face dumbing down I have ever seen. And the new announcer voice is just terrible.
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Weapon load outs, timers for item spawning, auto jump...

 
gregski

gregski

Moderator
#1,571
Sep 20, 2014
slimgrin said:
Weapon load outs, timers for item spawning, auto jump...
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Yep, I read this and I was like...

 
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octavian123

Forum veteran
#1,572
Sep 20, 2014
TB provided an interesting view on the matter and I kinda agree.
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#1,573
Sep 21, 2014
Possible FPS fare to tide me over till FWH release their next shooter.


PC exclusive. 8)
 
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M4xw0lf

Forum veteran
#1,574
Sep 22, 2014
I'm finally back in some irradiated wasteland. Irradiated wasteland best wasteland. So far I'm a happy ranger ^^
 
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volsung

Forum veteran
#1,575
Sep 23, 2014
Just found out about some Civilization: Beyond Earth, somewhat based on Alpha Centauri. Looks pretty cool, and it will be multi OS.
 
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Aaden

Rookie
#1,576
Sep 23, 2014
Sooo.... Blizzard's Project Titan was cancelled. Guess only if you're having the mindboggling steady income of a WoW, you can afford dumping money on a project for 7 years and then be honest enough about its potential to just scrap the whole thing.
 
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octavian123

Forum veteran
#1,577
Sep 23, 2014
Scrapping games is not new to Blizzard. Warcraft Adventures and Starcraft Ghost were also canceled because they were not good enough even though they both looked like above average games.

I would be interested in seeing a new franchise OR a genre they have never tried before. Reviving a dead genre could be cool.
 
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Aaden

Rookie
#1,578
Sep 24, 2014
Well, much of what they did in the last decade was exploring new genres. WoW was their first MMORPG, Hearthstone the first CCG, HotS the first MOBA. It's just that the latter are a bit underwhelming.

I'd rather have a Warcraft 4 than another of those games from a different genre with very small scope. But we'll be getting there, eventually. As SC2 and D3 proof they have not abandoned their traditional paths - they just spiced it up with a couple of smaller fun or experimental projects.
 
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octavian123

Forum veteran
#1,579
Sep 24, 2014
aaden said:
Well, much of what they did in the last decade was exploring new genres. WoW was their first MMORPG, Hearthstone the first CCG, HotS the first MOBA. It's just that the latter are a bit underwhelming.

I'd rather have a Warcraft 4 than another of those games from a different genre with very small scope. But we'll be getting there, eventually. As SC2 and D3 proof they have not abandoned their traditional paths - they just spiced it up with a couple of smaller fun or experimental projects.
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I am still hoping they will remake WC1 2 and 3 on the SC2 engine.
 
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EliHarel

Rookie
#1,580
Sep 24, 2014
Is there some statistic about WarCraft vs StarCraft preference? I'm curious which RTS is more popular.
 
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