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Midnight_Nova

Midnight_Nova

Fresh user
#341
Dec 27, 2020
An option would be nice. But if I am going to be bloody honest here, I don't miss it, even learned to drive around in first person. It would be prefered to have an FoV slider so I can atleast choose to have a better field of view.
 
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Dr_Sinister420

Forum regular
#342
Dec 27, 2020
Midnight_Nova said:
An option would be nice. But if I am going to be bloody honest here, I don't miss it, even learned to drive around in first person. It would be prefered to have an FoV slider so I can atleast choose to have a better field of view.
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I play with 100 FoV and it still doesn't feel far enough back.
 
superdemus

superdemus

Senior user
#343
Dec 27, 2020
Dr_Sinister420 said:
...it would make sense to stay first person only as that keeps it the most balanced as third person just becomes a corning peeking joke.
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I fail to see why it would, given that the multiplayer would be a secondary priority. Or tertiary, or not even that...
Also with that logic all multiplayers with shooting mechanics, as only a part of the gameplay, would be in 1st person. Fortunately it is not.

Dr_Sinister420 said:
End of the day it's CDPR's decision on if they want to add a third person camera or not.
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That's true. But for an action rpg that doesn't restrict itself to shooting mechanics and aims to please the whole world, it's still a poor decision to ignore it. I'm sure many agree with that.

Mk3rd said:
...turning to face multiple people during cross conversations would be clunky in TPP...
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Those conversations, few as they are, doesn't justify the restriction.

Mk3rd said:
...and some spaces are too cramped to accommodate even a close shoulder camera.
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The +15 year old splintercell games let you crawl through airducts in 3rd person just fine. It's not perfect, but sure it's not impossible.
 
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NevaEilhart

NevaEilhart

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#344
Dec 27, 2020
I've been very doubtful of how they would manage 1st person for Cyberpunk for a very long time. I play essentially 3rd person games, be it Action Adventure or RPGs, so it wasn't even remotely compatible in my head to play such a game in 1st person.

After more than 100 hours on Cyberpunk, I'm glad I was so wrong. In my opinion they handled it amazingly well. The game is so immersive thanks to it, and thanks to the 1st person you can take all the time you want to dive into all those details they put in front of your eyes, such as the beautifuly crafted animations which can be more subtle.

Despite all the controversy around the game, I find that the game being 1st person is actually one of its strongest assets.
 
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superdemus

superdemus

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#345
Dec 27, 2020
I wish I could say the same. For some parts it's nice, but not for the whole game.
 
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Dr_Sinister420

Dr_Sinister420

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#346
Dec 27, 2020
I have a question? Why buy a first person game then get all disappointed and mad about it being first person. That's like buying a car, getting home and being mad that it's not a truck. I personally never got the infatuation with needing to see your character other than playing Barbie dress-up
 
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superdemus

superdemus

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#347
Dec 27, 2020
Dr_Sinister420 said:
I have a question? Why buy a first person game then get all disappointed and mad about it being first person. That's like buying a car, getting home and being mad that it's not a truck. I personally never got the infatuation with needing to see your character other than playing Barbie dress-up
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Before release of the game it was mentioned countless times to "play it before judging". Well I've played and know I'm judging. While I like the game, some parts are still underwhelming in my book.
It's funny you brought up the barbie dress-up :D My wife remarks my playing with the virtual barbie doll as well from time to time, and she doesn't fully understand it either. The only difference being that she respects me enjoying it.
 
eternal_streetkid

eternal_streetkid

Fresh user
#348
Dec 27, 2020
Midnight_Nova said:
But if I am going to be bloody honest here, I don't miss it, even learned to drive around in first person.
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How?! I really wish I could drive around in first person without feeling like I need a booster seat. (a seat for toddlers in cars)
I love the interiors of the cars & they're designed very appropriately, but I can't see behind me, or even what's immediately beside me.
Often, when playing, I'll switch to FP when driving just because I wanna be able to see my car's interior while cruising around. The sacrifice?: The pedestrians who get to close to my car. Don't they know I'm driving in FP?
 
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Dr_Sinister420

Dr_Sinister420

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#349
Dec 27, 2020
eternal_streetkid said:
How?! I really wish I could drive around in first person without feeling like I need a booster seat. (a seat for toddlers in cars)
I love the interiors of the cars & they're designed very appropriately, but I can't see behind me, or even what's immediately beside me.
Often, when playing, I'll switch to FP when driving just because I wanna be able to see my car's interior while cruising around. The sacrifice?: The pedestrians who get to close to my car. Don't they know I'm driving in FP?
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Some of the vehicles are bad but I particularly prefer bikes, especially Jackie's for driving around as it gives you the best view
 
Midnight_Nova

Midnight_Nova

Fresh user
#350
Dec 27, 2020
eternal_streetkid said:
How?! I really wish I could drive around in first person without feeling like I need a booster seat. (a seat for toddlers in cars)
I love the interiors of the cars & they're designed very appropriately, but I can't see behind me, or even what's immediately beside me.
Often, when playing, I'll switch to FP when driving just because I wanna be able to see my car's interior while cruising around. The sacrifice?: The pedestrians who get to close to my car. Don't they know I'm driving in FP?
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I'll admit, reversing your car is a gamble due to a lack of rear view mirrors. Regular driving on the road however is doable as long as you keep the dimensions of your vehicle of choice in mind. It's just the minimap that makes me overshoot at times.
 
Dr_Sinister420

Dr_Sinister420

Forum regular
#351
Dec 27, 2020
superdemus said:
Before release of the game it was mentioned countless times to "play it before judging". Well I've played and know I'm judging. While I like the game, some parts are still underwhelming in my book.
It's funny you brought up the barbie dress-up :D My wife remarks my playing with the virtual barbie doll as well from time to time, and she doesn't fully understand it either. The only difference being that she respects me enjoying it.
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But you are judging why a burger doesn't taste like a salad. I would understand if it was a feature that was suppose to be in game but it wasn't. If they add it as an option for players, that would be alright and anyone to argue otherwise, outside of multiplayer reasons, is just looking to argue. I would still play in first person and hell, on my next playthrough, I'm going to turn off more hud options just to immerse myself even more.
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Midnight_Nova said:
I'll admit, reversing your car is a gamble due to a lack of rear view mirrors. Regular driving on the road however is doable as long as you keep the dimensions of your vehicle of choice in mind. It's just the minimap that makes me overshoot at times.
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I personally find the cars to feel somewhat realistic. I mean, if you wanna drive at 180 mph, don't expect your car to perform and maneuver very well. Drive it like you would normally drive and it actually becomes more enjoyable but it is hard to do that with mouse and keyboard. I sometimes grab my controller when I drive so I have more control
 
djdawk94

djdawk94

Forum regular
#352
Dec 27, 2020
making third person is a lot of work
but it would be cool....In a game that doesn't have extremely limited customization of all aspects.
 
Midnight_Nova

Midnight_Nova

Fresh user
#353
Dec 27, 2020
Dr_Sinister420 said:
But you are judging why a burger doesn't taste like a salad. I would understand if it was a feature that was suppose to be in game but it wasn't. If they add it as an option for players, that would be alright and anyone to argue otherwise, outside of multiplayer reasons, is just looking to argue. I would still play in first person and hell, on my next playthrough, I'm going to turn off more hud options just to immerse myself even more.
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I personally find the cars to feel somewhat realistic. I mean, if you wanna drive at 180 mph, don't expect your car to perform and maneuver very well. Drive it like you would normally drive and it actually becomes more enjoyable but it is hard to do that with mouse and keyboard. I sometimes grab my controller when I drive so I have more control
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I should've mentioned that I do play it on a base PS4, the controller makes it easier than WASD on a keyboard I imagine. The handling is fine to me, played enough Carmagedon (which uses realistic physics for vehicle handling) that it's not difficult to make that switch.
 
Dr_Sinister420

Dr_Sinister420

Forum regular
#354
Dec 27, 2020
Midnight_Nova said:
I should've mentioned that I do play it on a base PS4, the controller makes it easier than WASD on a keyboard I imagine. The handling is fine to me, played enough Carmagedon (which uses realistic physics for vehicle handling) that it's not difficult to make that switch.
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Ya, a controller makes a huge difference when it comes to anything that involves driving in video games. Could you imagine playing Gran Turismo on mouse and keyboard lol?
 
superdemus

superdemus

Senior user
#355
Dec 27, 2020
Dr_Sinister420 said:
But you are judging why a burger doesn't taste like a salad. I would understand if it was a feature that was suppose to be in game but it wasn't. If they add it as an option for players, that would be alright and anyone to argue otherwise, outside of multiplayer reasons, is just looking to argue. I would still play in first person and hell, on my next playthrough, I'm going to turn off more hud options just to immerse myself even more.
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If we are speaking of what was supposed to be in the game, then you could say that the salad was slowly changing into a burger, taking into account what was altered and removed over the course of years into the final product that has been released.
Despite all changes, I still gave it a shot. And while I like the game, it's still my right to express my opinion.
You say some of us are just looking to argue about the matter of perspective. But one can ask you the same by visiting and commenting in this specific topic.
To come back to that divined word "immersion". Everyone has it's own vision of what it should be. No one should define it for another.
 
Dr_Sinister420

Dr_Sinister420

Forum regular
#356
Dec 27, 2020
superdemus said:
If we are speaking of what was supposed to be in the game, then you could say that the salad was slowly changing into a burger, taking into account what was altered and removed over the course of years into the final product that has been released.
Despite all changes, I still gave it a shot. And while I like the game, it's still my right to express my opinion.
You say some of us are just looking to argue about the matter of perspective. But one can ask you the same by visiting and commenting in this specific topic.
To come back to that divined word "immersion". Everyone has it's own vision of what it should be. No one should define it for another.
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Please read what I wrote before commenting. I said "If they add it as an option for players, that would be alright and anyone to argue otherwise, outside of multiplayer reasons, is just looking to argue."
 
superdemus

superdemus

Senior user
#357
Dec 27, 2020
Dr_Sinister420 said:
Please read what I wrote before commenting. I said "If they add it as an option for players, that would be alright and anyone to argue otherwise, outside of multiplayer reasons, is just looking to argue."
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Okay, you've got me there. I interpreted that sentence wrong.
 
Kra-ven

Kra-ven

Fresh user
#358
Dec 27, 2020
I'm certain I read an article where they indicated that the game was going to be 1st person due to the environmental differences of an inner city. They compared to Witcher 3's large open area environment where there is a lot of horizontal options for the camera. For 2077 the game is tighter, more vertical, and was always intended to be 1st person.

This is the longest I have ever played a 1st person game as I do not like it typically, but since I read the store page, and listen to the developer I was aware of what i was getting into a few years ago.
 
DrunkenSheeps

DrunkenSheeps

Rookie
#359
Dec 27, 2020
Lord_Drucifer said:
Am I just missing it or is FPS the only interface?
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One thing's for sure, we start gettin' multiplayer they better make note of these problems, otherwise nobody's gonna wanna either buy more content or play lookin' like their trench coat is stapled to their ass...
 
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Gerza71

Senior user
#360
Dec 27, 2020
I wish The Division 2 has first person camera.
 
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