The lack of 3rd person view

[Bloodartist]

There are of course mirrors and the photomode to see V.

Currently at least on PC there is something seriously wrong about mirrors and inventory screen though. The rest of the game and photomode looks fine, but in inventory, mirrors and charater creation my V is a pixellated mess that is seemingly running at far lower resolution than rest of the game. There is obviously something wrong with it, and I hope CDPR fixes it quickly.

Inventory. Look at this mess. As if its enlargened from a 480P or less image

Character creator

Mirror


And for comparison, a picture of a NPC from the actual game


I don't know about you, but this puts a serious dampener on my enjoyment of the game. As I was one of those who really complained about lack of 3rd person mode... and these placebos aren't even working properly. Thank god at least photomode is.

 

[SofaJockey]

If this is the day you figured out that there is no 3th person view then not only did you not pay attention trough all the media attention since 2018, you have not even read the store page at all.
Sorry but this is on yourself, educate yourself before you swipe your creditcard on products you buy.

This is fair. I prefer 3rd person, but this is how the game is, so go with it.

I'd expect the game's first-person view to be so central to the design that 'adding 3rd person' is beyond practicable. The odds of it coming is close to zero in my opinion.

 

[Nikola_Nesic]

To be fair adding 3rd person would be much more easy for CDPR than some modders, also i would skip any free DLC for 3rd person, hell even MP.

 

[ShakaGirl808]

I was actually disappointed when they decided to go first person because I get super nauseated when playing games in first person view. I'm sad that I can't experience this awesome world with everyone else. And taking dramamine just knocks me out, so that's not an option.

I really hope they consider this for the next project. I know a group of people who suffer from this. The option to use third person is sometimes not just an aesthetic preference.

 

[balto0525]

I was actually disappointed when they decided to go first person because I get super nauseated when playing games in first person view. I'm sad that I can't experience this awesome world with everyone else. And taking dramamine just knocks me out, so that's not an option.

I really hope they consider this for the next project. I know a group of people who suffer from this. The option to use third person is sometimes not just an aesthetic preference.

my distance girlfriend is gonna come over in a week and she want to test this. Now i just remembered that First person mode is out of question for her. because during one of our date i ordered a dinner table. before the dinner i took us to an place that had all VR gaming stuff that you could pay for a time and play whatever you wanted on the limited selection that support VR. She got nausea after that and after that she couldn't play First Person mode anymore. So i have to find some way to help her to somehow enjoy the game with First person mode and i just don't know how. it's a high chance i have to make her disappointed.

 

[VaxPrime]

Am I just missing it or is FPS the only interface?

Yep, you are not allowed to see that hot Chick you spent hours building in Character Creation while you play her. Either way, it makes the Cyberpunk 2077 feel at least 10 years outdated, who would have thought i would enjoy playing an Old Broken Cowboy dying of Tuberculosis more than this Hot girl, yes, i went and restarted RD2...

 

[VoidPhilosopher]

This is fair. I prefer 3rd person, but this is how the game is, so go with it.

I'd expect the game's first-person view to be so central to the design that 'adding 3rd person' is beyond practicable. The odds of it coming is close to zero in my opinion.

I do not have to go with things we do not like. CDPR says they listen to feedback, this is one. Removing a 3rd person perspective from an RPG!!! game is a bad game design choice, let alone that it is highly requested, and yes removing, cause it is already in the game when you are on bike. Just for exploration, to hell with the combat, it's clunky anyways. Regardless of whether they are gonna add a simple feature that is already works in the game in some form, or not, I am going to express my frustration as dissatisfied customer.
I do not understand why are so many people oppose choice.. are you getting something out of it?? like if it makes you "good" or something if you just submit to the way things are, and try to force others to do the same?!

 

[SofaJockey]

I do not have to go with things we do not like. CDPR says they listen to feedback, this is one.

You don't have to buy the game.
Adding 3rd person is a huge task so I expect your feedback will be ignored.
I'm not against 3rd person, I prefer it, but that's not the game CDPR made.
The game has already made back its production and marketing costs so I suspect CDPR will keep on doing what they want.

 

[VoidPhilosopher]

You don't have to buy the game.
Adding 3rd person is a huge task so I expect your feedback will be ignored.
I'm not against 3rd person, I prefer it, but that's not the game CDPR made.
The game has already made back its production and marketing costs so I suspect CDPR will keep on doing what they want.

Thing is I already bought it, they said you need to play it to understand how it works, I did play, and it does not work. Regarding "huge task" thing, it is a complete bs. If you want detail I already made a post on a previous page about it... it is already been done. And besides even if it wasn't, a simple quaternion function for a camera with added raycasting for avoiding collsion is not a huge task anyways. I do not ask of them to rebuild a game for third person, just simple off combat 3rd person camera for exploration. I know for a fact how easy and quickly it can be done. This is why it is so infuriating.

 

[Draconifors]

This topic has been controversial since E3 2018, and several threads about it have been closed due to far too much hostility.

As a reminder, rule #1 of this forum is to always treat others with kindness and respect, i.e. don't be rude towards anyone, including the developers.

 

[VoidPhilosopher]

This topic has been controversial since E3 2018, and several threads about it have been closed due to far too much hostility.

As a reminder, rule #1 of this forum is to always treat others with kindness and respect, i.e. don't be rude towards anyone, including the developers.

That's okay. All I wanted is so the devs would just be aware of how important this is to me and to a lot of other players. So they could implement this.

 

[VaxPrime]

That's okay. All I wanted is so the devs would just be aware of how important this is to me and to a lot of other players. So they could implement this.

Yea, i can see how this is going to get Hostile, IT MATTERS!

 

[Terralventhe]

This topic has been controversial since E3 2018, and several threads about it have been closed due to far too much hostility.

As a reminder, rule #1 of this forum is to always treat others with kindness and respect, i.e. don't be rude towards anyone, including the developers.

And just like in 2018 is looks like the most hostile, condescending and "if you don't like it, go away" remarks are from the first-person clan while everyone else just wants their voice to be heard and acknowledged in some form or fashion.

I already voiced my views back in 2018, but I'll repeat myself now for posterity:
I get that third-person was just too much effort and money to implement, at any rate. Judging from the footage of NPC animations CDPR was really not playing at the top of their game when making this one. I'm guessing after the previous controversies involving pay and crunch that they were trying to go easier on employees, which is fair. And having to answer to shareholders all the time probably is a pain in the ass too, so pushing it out the door when it still needs more dev time also checks out. So I'm understanding of all those factors that are responsible for the average to above-average gameplay and animations that doesn't hold up to previous releases.

What I take issue with is the lie that this was the only way the game could have worked. The UI is still basically just Detective Mode from the Arkham series. The melee is still subpar and suffers from the typical limitations of any first-person game. The argument that the game was designed "with vertical level design in mind" immediately got blown out the window when Insomniac's Spider-Man was released and also was designed vertically, but still retained third-person and looked amazing. The argument of it breaking 'stealth' is equally lackluster since if it was THAT vital then you could have just forced people to enter into first-person mode during stealth sections. Apparently it was acceptable to the first-person crowd that you'd get shunted in third-person when taking cover in Deus Ex, or when driving in this game, so surely the opposite should apply here, right? Or is it simply blind fealty to first-person that dictates it all?

My feedback is simple: Next time, be honest with your consumers. Don't lie to us to make sure as many people keep interest in the game as high as possible, then yank the rug out from under a sizeable chunk of your player base last moment at E3 once you've milked them for publicity. If you're going to renege on promises, make sure everyone is informed, frequently, at all times, and give real explanations why: Money, work efficiency. We'll believe you when it comes to that. Just don't feed us spin. "Our artistic vision" is the excuse used by people like EAware after they went behind everyone's backs and produced an inferior product than what was promised, and they were too prideful or cowardly to admit to it. CDPR earned a ton of goodwill by presenting themselves as someone who didn't play those types of games. Don't squander it by becoming the people you brag about being different from.

 

[BarbaraDurso]

EXACTLY !!

I don't understand this "first person enhance immersion whatsoever" NO. It doesn't, honestly no... Especially in a such detailed world with such good clothing style and fashion (including character customization). What is the point of all of this If you are not able to see your character?

The only way to see your character is watching yourself on a mirror, the inventory and the photo mode. Which is quite shocking and disappointing. Give your players the choice to play how they like? I know It would require more work for animations and everything but I'd rather see poor animations and third person perspective than a pair of hands.

Please, just work on a third person mode.

 

[blackvoss]

Alas, I tried to play it, but I can't do it, the first person camera prevents me from having fun and doesn't catch me at all.
So depending on future updates, could the game be given a 3rd person view?
thank you for your answers and opinions.

 

[Peter_Turner92]

This is the first FP game I've played since Goldeneye 007 years ago. I generally don't like fp games. I'm getting the hang of it, but I'd still much rather be in 3rd person. Maybe an option could be 3rd person gameplay, and then move into fp perspective for conversations.

 

[W0LFsRAGE]

Agreed they should've included 3rd person, would've looked better that way considering the graphics. Deus Ex got that much right in the cover system in Human Revolution, which also worked great with the weapons equipped with tracking rounds.

 

[override367]

CDPR is never going to do this, but there might be a mod at some point, unlikely that a mod will be capable of making the gunbattles playable in 3rd person (the aim would be off etc), but I'd bet money we'll have a vanity camera mod within a few weeks

 

[Gillian_Seed]

I may go more in depth with this later but for now I'll just say that I was eventually able to accept CDPR's choice for first person perspective only based on CDPR's insistence that it was done for immersion purposes and that somehow FPP only was the right choice. It was very difficult for me to let it go but eventually I just decided to trust CDPR and see what they do.

I can't say what I was expecting because I wasn't sure what CDPR was going to do that it was so important the game being first person only but I can say after 15 hours in, whatever they intended to be a reason for justifying first person only seems to me to be entirely unknown and absent from my experience.

I've been playing games for over 30 years and RPG's are my passion in life, I can only say so much was lost by making this a first person only game and honestly its difficult to deal with from a "what could have been" perspective.

Seeing as there is no reason that I've seen that justifies first person only, I can only speculate as to why they choose to go that route. One thing is certainly clear to me though and that is that it was a mistake.

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[balto0525]

i think it's ver important to consider to implement a third person view with options to toggle betweenfirst person view and third person view - just like the car itself when driving. I find it incredible difficult to understand that the CDPR spend so many months and time investing on this game without giving it an extra thinking if this was the right way? probably not the best way seeing the community is enraged with the limitation of third person view. I think it was only limited to be 90% of the time only first person view because the creator behind Cyberpunk2077 dislike Third person view??? i don't see any harm in implementing a code that enable us user to toggle between first person view and third person view on a fly. while you're at it! implement a code that allows a user to change their UI screen size to be visible on the user's tv despite changing the tv's system setting regarding screen size.