Eh, it's more, "Uh, Cerys, me and Yennefer broke up like three days ago and this time for good. Stop teasing."
I like the quest, breaking up with Yen was satisfying after the game kept throwing her in my face. I didn't like how afterwards the game seemed to ignore my decision and everyone still treated Geralt like he was still in a relationship with her. That was annoying.
It was Yen's idea to remove the Djinn spell. I'm glad her expectation blew up in her face once I had my boy, Geralt, tell her he didn't love her anymore. Be careful what you wish for.
I will just quote myself, put so much effort in some post that i don't want to rewrite everything 
tl;dr: CDPR had to implement it to make a relationship with Triss be possible.
Am i happy about that? No, not really, but that's my problem and i can still pursue a relationship with her anyway, so everything is good. I even think that it is a great scene exactly for Yen-fans despite its questionsable right-to-exist, as it shows, when you actually reciprocate her feelings, that the wish is not important, it never was.
Am i happy that you are happy/free to choose? Yes, definitively, because if you really don't like her, nobody should force you onto her. I hoped, really hoped that this didn't happen, what happens right now. That people blindly hate her without getting to know her first, but i can't help those, who don't ask for help or don't want to know her better.
That's why i wanted to create a thread where people can just ask about her, who is Yennefer? Why is she the way she is? Why does she the things the way she does? And so on.
Only book reader know her really well, but those who played only the games don't really and to be honest maybe the games didn't do their greatest job to show her character in all greatness and weakness.
Sure, CDPR could have done it better, with more dialogues. There are way too few dialogues anyway! When npcs of a side quest have more dialogue than a character like Fringila Vigo, something is wrong. There is barely a moment where you can actually talk exhaustively with someone.
But maybe they thought this quest is a good opportunity for both sides, as one side can confirm what they think is right and the other can create a new path.
Aye, what i don't like is the sheer hate recently towards either of them.
Triss-fans are frantic (just look at that thread with 111 pages in the meanwhile! The downgrade thread was only faster), because she didn't have the same big role as Yennefer despite who she is.
At the same time Yen-fans are frantic that Triss is almost an unicorn among the sorceresses, an innocent flawless soul who just wants to love someone, what a poor thing.
And then there are people discussing that the game didn't have enough encounters/variations of sex o_o
Before Witcher 3 it was fun to argue with people about the one true love blah, only the sky was the limit to discuss.
But after Witcher 3 i just wanted to talk and discuss about it and not hate each other ._.
Why is it so hard for some to talk about flaws of a character and not just how great one is?
I like Yennefer, because of her good and bad character traits, and the same counts for Triss, because she has also bad traits.
And now i talked way more about the general problem recently than about the actual topic, great...
tl;dr: CDPR had to implement it to make a relationship with Triss be possible.
Am i happy about that? No, not really, but that's my problem and i can still pursue a relationship with her anyway, so everything is good. I even think that it is a great scene exactly for Yen-fans despite its questionsable right-to-exist, as it shows, when you actually reciprocate her feelings, that the wish is not important, it never was.
Am i happy that you are happy/free to choose? Yes, definitively, because if you really don't like her, nobody should force you onto her. I hoped, really hoped that this didn't happen, what happens right now. That people blindly hate her without getting to know her first, but i can't help those, who don't ask for help or don't want to know her better.
That's why i wanted to create a thread where people can just ask about her, who is Yennefer? Why is she the way she is? Why does she the things the way she does? And so on.
Only book reader know her really well, but those who played only the games don't really and to be honest maybe the games didn't do their greatest job to show her character in all greatness and weakness.
Sure, CDPR could have done it better, with more dialogues. There are way too few dialogues anyway! When npcs of a side quest have more dialogue than a character like Fringila Vigo, something is wrong. There is barely a moment where you can actually talk exhaustively with someone.
But maybe they thought this quest is a good opportunity for both sides, as one side can confirm what they think is right and the other can create a new path.
Aye, what i don't like is the sheer hate recently towards either of them.
Triss-fans are frantic (just look at that thread with 111 pages in the meanwhile! The downgrade thread was only faster), because she didn't have the same big role as Yennefer despite who she is.
At the same time Yen-fans are frantic that Triss is almost an unicorn among the sorceresses, an innocent flawless soul who just wants to love someone, what a poor thing.
And then there are people discussing that the game didn't have enough encounters/variations of sex o_o
Before Witcher 3 it was fun to argue with people about the one true love blah, only the sky was the limit to discuss.
But after Witcher 3 i just wanted to talk and discuss about it and not hate each other ._.
Why is it so hard for some to talk about flaws of a character and not just how great one is?
I like Yennefer, because of her good and bad character traits, and the same counts for Triss, because she has also bad traits.
And now i talked way more about the general problem recently than about the actual topic, great...
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I'd be interested in your perspective on why you think it shouldn't exist. I'm a big fan of the books, myself, and very much like Yennefer so I'd like to hear why you think it shouldn't exist as a possibility in the games.
I'm a big huge fan of Yennefer even if I'm not a huge fan of their relationship. I don't hate it and enjoy it but I also like that it's tempestuous even in the books. But, really, it's possible to be a Yennefer fan and like Triss/Geralt more or Geralt/Triss/Yennefer or just like Yennefer and not Geralt/Yennefer.
I think they made Yennefer much more of an antihero than she is in the books. Yennefer's pranks are relatively harmless like the lake. I don't think she'd do a lot of the more terrible things she does in Skellig.
Eh, it's a major step down for those who enjoy portraying Geralt as a Noir Detective in Medieval Times.
Just as there are those who think Triss is better, there are also those who support single Geralt.
The wish simply saved her life, it didn't cause Geralt to love her or Yennefer to love him. Yes, she is surprised to no end that a stranger did something so selfless for her, that's the reason why she got involved with him as he is different to all those other men, who only see a beautiful, powerful and rich sorceress.
She even ask him
"What do you desire? I know it, you want to be a human, don't you? Wish for it Witcher, do it, fulfill your biggest dream." She doesn't even consider that he really wants to help her and yet he doesn't wish something for himself, he wishes to save the life of a woman. The act of wishing changed her attitude, not necessary the wish itself. (If i get a little bit smoochy, you could say that the wish was an act of love
)It never directly affected this love-feeling, as Geralt had it even before he made this wish and Yennefer only much later. The Ice Shard chapter is about her feelings and her confession of her feelings and even then she can't admit it and runs away.
The only thing the wish directly influenced is that they met each other from time to time, their fates always cross each other. That's the direct effect of the wish.
As i said in the other thread, the wish is almost irrelevant in the later books. Ciri is the one who is the final constant in their relationship, which brings them together finally and for good.
But CDPR made this wish to a kinda Deus Ex Machina, turning it into something like "Do you love her or not?", but the wish was never about that, but it suggests so in the games.
As is said above, i can understand why CDPR did it this way, they had to implement something to make a real Triss relationship possible, but on the same time i think they could have made it better, more reasonable with just talking.
Let them talk with each other and deal with their problems and don't let a djinn do the magic/work.
I followed once a discussion in another forum, years ago, where the people seriously believed that Geralt wished that Yennefer gets pregnant/a child and Ciri is this destined child from that wish. That doesn't make any sense at all at this point in the story.
But why do i think the wish is still a good thing?
When Geralt made his wish, he did it because of love and that's the exact same reason why Yennefer does it. She wants to know, whether her feelings are not a product of this wish. She wants to be sure, she says this wish not for love, but because of love. That's exactly why Geralt did it and that's why i still like and love it, as it is just a confirmation from her side this time, that she admits to her feelings.
She would risk anything to save Ciri as does Geralt, so e.g. the infamous necromancy is not really a surprise to me. I am neiter a mother (as i am a man
) nor a father, but i think a parent, especially a mother, would always do anything to save her child. It is even more remarkable for Yennefer as she isn't Ciri's biological mother.When she teleports you above the lake, she is pissed that Geralt slept with her friend, not that he slept with any woman, because he did several times and she knows it anyway, no Geralt had to sleep with her. This is making her furious.
She is even trying to accept it, but if you keep rubbing it on her face, well, you have to endure the consequence
Sure, but i see it in the context of the story. First he is looking for his former lover and then for his fated foster-daughter.
You can still shag 3 other women, again an ex-lodge member, so there is that. But i never expected something like in Witcher 1 again, as the context of the game doesn't make it comprehensible that he ploughs through the towns, while his former love is looking for his foster-daughter.
Jesus, if this goes on, i need to play some egoshooters to find the man in me again, so many romantic schmaltzy discussions recently
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Geralt fell in love with Yennefer before asking the Djinn to keep them connected forever. That's that.
As for Triss? Not sure how I could ever like or trust someone who was a part of a plot that involved trying to kidnap my daughter in order to make her into a baby factory for the lodge. Triss is literally no better than Aen Elle when you look at her and the lodge's motives.
As for Triss? Not sure how I could ever like or trust someone who was a part of a plot that involved trying to kidnap my daughter in order to make her into a baby factory for the lodge. Triss is literally no better than Aen Elle when you look at her and the lodge's motives.
Well you can have quite a lot of fun in some Novigrad brothelsYou can still shag 3 other women, again an ex-lodge member, so there is that. But i never expected something like in Witcher 1 again, as the context of the game doesn't make it comprehensible that he ploughs through the towns, while his former love is looking for his foster-daughter.
Jesus, if this goes on, i need to play some egoshooters to find the man in me again, so many romantic schmaltzy discussions recently
also go outside and hit a tree you will feel 3 things:
1. manly
2. pain
3. stupid
Feels appropriate to me. Considering Yens importance it should make sense that they'd at least try to make you feel bad about it like you made the wrong decision. Games full of decisions and consequences like that.
Extremely annoying, frustrating and unnecessary in my book
i didnt felt bad at all, just annoyed that i only ever got once the chance to clarify that my geralt is with triss and not yen
Yep annoyed and i kept having to try and stop that outside reason translating into annoyance towards Yen the character.
I didn't feel bad though. I was just annoyed when I could have been just as easily spending time with any of the other sorceresses in the end game quests.
You see, I don't get this logic.
He had personal thoughts that he wasn't expressing at all. She invaded his privacy and learned of what he was thinking, got mad, and took it out on him. Whether his thoughts were nice or not doesn't matter. They're his thoughts and his alone, she had no right taking out her anger on him or even reading his mind in the first place. Thoughtcrime shouldn't be a thing unless we're discussing 1984.
Aside from thiis, the author of the link you referred to seems like he has a serious issue with video games and opinions. Demeaning someone's opinion by calling anyone who likes Triss over Yen a fucking misogynist? Holy shit I don't even. Besides that, he gets a decent amount of shit wrong or mixed up (Function of Rose of Remembrance, Triss's apparent obsession over Sodden, etc).
I was just fine with it although I might have gone with stabbing her if that had been an actual option. I've never liked Yen. Don't care much for any of the stuck-up
sorceresses. Hated Yen in fact since reading The Last Wish short story. Sooooo glad I had an option to tell her bye-bye. Just wish I could have been a bit more
nasty about it, you know, to be more in keeping with her general bitchiness and holier than thou attitude towards him throughout their relationship.
Now she wants to play nice, be sweet and cuddly. Now she wants to run away and live a quiet life away from politics. Sorry but I don't buy it for a second. Only one
playthrough did I choose to be with Triss but seriously, she's like the younger sister who has the hots for her older sis's boyfriend and seduces him the first chance
she gets. Sweeter than Yen but they've all got their own agendas and are willing to do anything to get what they want. Who the hell can trust any of them. Would
rather see Geralt with an entire bevvy of whores than either of them. At least with any of them, you know you'll get what you paid for.
sorceresses. Hated Yen in fact since reading The Last Wish short story. Sooooo glad I had an option to tell her bye-bye. Just wish I could have been a bit more
nasty about it, you know, to be more in keeping with her general bitchiness and holier than thou attitude towards him throughout their relationship.
Now she wants to play nice, be sweet and cuddly. Now she wants to run away and live a quiet life away from politics. Sorry but I don't buy it for a second. Only one
playthrough did I choose to be with Triss but seriously, she's like the younger sister who has the hots for her older sis's boyfriend and seduces him the first chance
she gets. Sweeter than Yen but they've all got their own agendas and are willing to do anything to get what they want. Who the hell can trust any of them. Would
rather see Geralt with an entire bevvy of whores than either of them. At least with any of them, you know you'll get what you paid for.
I agree. Geralt finally getting over Yennefer and telling her that they were no longer in any sort of relationship was one of my favourite moments in the game.
People like to 'romantically' say that 'only death' was able to bring peace to the relationship between Geralt and Yennefer (Without Ciri). It's almost like they don't realize that they are literally describing a relationship that is so disfunctional and toxic that it's literally impossible to attain in life.
Ah, that dialogue shouldn't even exist in the first place, and that's the price for playing out of character
I *LIKE* Yennefer and think she's an awesome character. I just prefer Geralt and her broken up and this time staying that way.
Which you can blame on Geralt's resurrection trauma if you want.