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dianathe

Senior user
#1
Oct 22, 2008
The Path

For those of us that don't have access to the translated versions of all the books..What exactly is The Path?
 
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lyonesse

Senior user
#2
Oct 22, 2008
my understanding (from the little I have seen) is that it is the journeys a witcher makes when he is out travelling and hunting monsters.but i could be wrong :)
 
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dianathe

Senior user
#3
Oct 24, 2008
yes that was my original thought too...then came across a posting on the forum....and for the life of me canna find it again...something about Sapkowski writing in great detail about the layout of Kaer Morhen, and describing 'The Path'...and as I am beginning to realize with Sapkowski there is much subtle 'undercurrents' in what he writes...and I became somewhat curious...
 
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vindici

Senior user
#4
Oct 24, 2008
Excuse me, I don't follow. Do you mean a road near Kaer Morhen by "the Path"? If so, it was just a training route for young witchers. Breath control, endurance - that kind of things.
 
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chicra

Senior user
#5
Oct 24, 2008
It was translated as 'the path'? :wall:The original word was Mordownia. 'Mord' means 'murder' and 'zmordowany' means 'extremely exhausted'. It's important because it was frequently mentioned that many kids died on that road.
 
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summit

Senior user
#6
Oct 24, 2008
Mordownia is a word commonly used in Poland to describe a place which is extremely hostile. It is often used to decribe a bar or a pub full of low life thugs. That kind of places are also called rzeźnia (abattoir)
 
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Gamewidow

Forum veteran
#7
Oct 24, 2008
I do believe Polish people have a certain flair for the dramatic :) ... abattoirs here are slaughterhouses (not nice places indeed) and necessary if people eat meat (i don't) ;)
 
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dianathe

Senior user
#8
Oct 25, 2008
chicra said:
It was translated as 'the path'? :wall:The original word was Mordownia. 'Mord' means 'murder' and 'zmordowany' means 'extremely exhausted'. It's important because it was frequently mentioned that many kids died on that road.
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english translations can sometimes be...understated... :-\ tone of voice can convey the deeper meaning...but the written word is something else altogether...Any chance of :whistle: twisting your arm a little to give a little more on the subject.??I am still awaiting Blood of the Elves...sigh ::) was supposed to arrive after the 15th..still not here...ditto for a coupla other things imported from the UK...methinks the exchange rate is the cause for the delay...
 
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planewalker

Senior user
#9
Oct 26, 2008
In "Price of Neutrality", Lambert asks Geralt "How was the Path?" or something, to which Geralt responds something along the lines that it was nothing out of the ordinary. (I don't remember the correct lines.) From that dialogue I understood the Path to mean the witchers' way of life, killing monsters and adventuring for money during the three seasons, before coming back to Kaer Morhen for winter.
 
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dianathe

Senior user
#10
Oct 26, 2008
thankx for all the responses..!I'm thinking that maybe we've hit a snag here... there is the general understanding that "the Path' as in The Path a witcher takes in his journeys around the Northern Kingdoms..but to my mind, there is a sense of an intonation, a meaning greater than what the English reader perceives...it is I suspect related to "The Path" as hinted at by Chicra in an earlier post.it's rather like a translation of a spade...the translator might then translate it as a shovel LOL..or the other way around...depending on the context..
 
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Charza

Senior user
#11
Oct 27, 2008
I always imagine that "The path" is quite similar to what the ancient spartans used to call the agoge. A path of extreme training and hardship where the weak perish and the strong survive.
 
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boatx

Senior user
#12
Oct 29, 2008
In Sapkowski books about Witcher you can read about Szlak(Path) and Mordownia (i dont know translation). The Path is a part of witchers life. On springs witchers leave Kaer Morhen and go on a path, they travling, killing monster and earning money.When winter starts witchers come back to Kaer Morhen. I think path means here especially travling (Lambert asks Geralt "How was the Path?" - he ask him about a travel) but it also can be interpreted as a symbol of witchers life(this is my opinion).Wherease Mordownia is some kind of extremly hard obstacle course where young witcher training. It is located in Kaer Morhen and You can read about it in "Blood of Elves".Sorry for my English :p
 
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Gamewidow

Forum veteran
#13
Oct 29, 2008
so far in the english translation of Blood of Elves, they called Mordownia "the killer", which is not too bad ... is that what they call the gauntlet in the game (where Leo broke his hand?)
 
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dianathe

Senior user
#14
Oct 29, 2008
Well my understanding of The Gauntlet, which even today the expression in English 'Running the Gauntlet' means to traverse obstacles. In the olden times knights used to train by using a sort of mechanical wooden wheel devices each carrying maces, swords, balls and chains et al, that could be set off at different speeds, and differing heights. :eek: You, the knight would have to run through this maelstrom of whirling blades et al along a set path, dodging, rolling, timing your move from one obstacle to another. I think I remember seeing a highly stylized hollywood version of this in 'First Knight'
 
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Gamewidow

Forum veteran
#15
Oct 29, 2008
upon rereading, it seems my question was exceptionally poorly worded ;)what i meant to ask was: do you think that the "Mordownia" in the books was translated in the game as "the guantlet", as it seems rather fitting?
 
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dianathe

Senior user
#16
Oct 30, 2008
I think that "Mordownia' was an extremely brutal and harrowing "Path" of which the "Gauntlet" of which I spoke of earlier was but a small part. Chomping at the bit here to get my hands on the Book! Those mutations, or gene manipulations that produced a witcher, was further entrenched into muscle memory by these extremely harsh often fatal 'training exercises'....my english is not sufficient here to describe this...mental images of 21st century training exercises ala Mossad or Rangers aint even going to come close to what these enhanced and mutated males went through. Chicra mentioned that kids died on the "Mordownia" so I expect that these 'exercises' were a constant part of a training witchers life until he was ready to go out into the world at large and earn his keep.
 
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