The Real Ending {TOP Spoilres}

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The Real Ending {TOP Spoilres}

It finally hit! Then more I think of it them more I'm certain of this.

All starts from Avallach's words "Oh, Geralt, I didn't really wanted you to see this"

You lying son of ..... There , right there think of it.
He took Ciri strait after the battle, takes her to a portal that teleports to another world. What was the hurry?

Now what is it that Avallach wanted from Ciri all this years, what was the agreement in the Tower in Swallow.
Why he would support her and protect and help to fight WH and Eredin?

All that love to king? BS. Avallach cared about White Frost? Not a chance, they could change worlds as gloves all they need is one single child. All Avallach wanted from Ciri is her gens.

Exactly!

They did found a male-elf that is still able to do the job and has the blood!
Ciri went as agreed , gave bird to a child and then, they sent her back in time into Witcher's world.

Guess what we are gonna to do in TW4?

 

[shnabeltasse]

If you do not go with her to his lab, what happens then? I never skipped that part, but if you did, you never knew he tried to breed the elder blood with Ciri's help. That is what upset me, you support her by being naive regarding Avallac'h's own plans despite your knowledge, if you remember all dialogue options. Hate that guy....

 

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I know his plans regardless the trip to laboratory, it's in the books

 

[Scholdarr.452]

Avallach cared about White Frost? Not a chance, they could change worlds as gloves

Ahem, that's not true. As a book reader you should know that.

Actually they want Ciri's child because they CANNOT change worlds as gloves. Not anymore.

 

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Ahem, that's not true. As a book reader you should know that.

Actually they want Ciri's child because they CANNOT change worlds as gloves. Not anymore.

So what did I said? The needed the child to start to be able to do that again

 

[Scholdarr.452]

So what did I said? The needed the child to start to be able to do that again

And why should Ciri agree to that? What's in it for her? She's not stupid. She'd know that the Aen Elle would try to conquer her own world sooner or later. She know that the Aen Elle can't be trusted.

 

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And why should Ciri agree to that? What's in it for her? She's not stupid. She'd know that the Aen Elle would try to conquer her own world sooner or later. She know that the Aen Elle can't be trusted.

Why do you think Eredin is hunting for Ciri? He knows that there is a male-elf with right type of blood. What is the point of hunting Ciri if the king (the only one with blood is dead) . That was the agreement Ciri had to take. She gives them the child after Eredin's dead and they (maybe) never come to Witcher's world or if they do only to take Aen Seidhe away.

 

[Paprikamann]

That's ... strange ...


I still don't get why Avallac' should be against Eredin then. They could work together and still have the child?

Plus, Ciri would never agree to that, too.


I even would prefer my theory of the White Frost being a failed experiment of ancient elves (Avallac'h and other elven sages probably know that) and he needs Ciri to fix that. The original White Frost - the ice age - is still to come in 3000 years, but Avallac'h didn't told anyone because Ciri wouldn't agree in just fixing a thing his race messed up.

 

[Scholdarr.452]

Why do you think Eredin is hunting for Ciri? He knows that there is a male-elf with right type of blood. What is the point of hunting Ciri if the king (the only one with blood is dead) . That was the agreement Ciri had to take. She gives them the child after Eredin's dead and they (maybe) never come to Witcher's world or if they do only to take Aen Seidhe away.

There is no reason why Ciri should believe Avallac'h. Remember the unicorns. Avallac'h is not to be trusted. He's the fox.

 

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That's ... strange ...


I still don't get why Avallac' should be against Eredin then. They could work together and still have the child?

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That is simple enough Avallach would never help Eredin to get that kind of power. Avallach is one of the mighty mages, Eredin is a rootless warrior.

Without Avallach's help they would never get Eredin. He would get Ciri first. So Ciri basically had 2 chooses:

1. Run and hope that Eredin wound't catch her
2. Get an agreement offered by Avallach

 

[Paprikamann]

That is simple enough Avallach would never help Eredin to get that kind of power. Avallach is one of the mighty mages, Eredin is a rootless warrior.

Without Avallach's help they would never get Eredin. He would get Ciri first. SO Ciri basically had 2 chooses
1. RUn and hope that Eredin wound't catch her
2. Get an agreement offered by Avallach

Ahem ... in the books Avallac'h wanted these powers, too.

Or just doing that what happend in the games. Or waiting for Scholdar's story.

 

[Scholdarr.452]

1. Run and hope that Eredin wound't catch her
2. Get an agreement offered by Avallach

3. Get an agreement, break it once Eredin is dead and kill Avallac'h...

And the world is safe forever.


(That being said, I like the theory. It makes much more sense than the White Frost stuff imo.)

 

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Ahem ... in the books Avallac'h wanted these powers, too.

Or just doing that what happend in the games. Or waiting for Scholdar's story.

Avallach wanted the power to be able to travel again...

 

[Scholdarr.452]

Avallach wanted the power to be able to travel again...

That's just your interpretation, mate. The unicorns implied something different though. They warned Ciri of both, the sparrow-head (Eredin) and the fox (Avallac'h). Both are not to be trusted.

And Avallac'h himself hates the humans more than anybody else. Much more than Eredin...

 

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That's just your interpretation, mate. The unicorns implied something different though. They warned Ciri of both, the sparrow-head (Eredin) and the fox (Avallac'h). Both are not to be trusted.

And Avallac'h himself hates the humans more than anybody else. Much more than Eredin...

I'm not saying otherwise. We don't know what the agreement was. And there are plenty of worlds and humans to be hated by Avallac. They even have humans as slaves in their current world.

Erin would come to Witcher's world for revenge as a conquer.

 

[Ghastly30]

I don't know if in this whole thread are some hidden subtexts, but motives of Avallach are quite clearly and logically presented in the game. In contrast to Eredin, Avallach knew that conquer the world of The Witcher is only a temporary solution, because White Frost sooner or later will come also to this world. Only Ciri could stop the White Frost, and that's what Avallach wanted from her.

 

[Paprikamann]

I'm not saying otherwise. We don't know what the agreement was. And there are plenty of worlds and humans to be hated by Avallac. They even have them as slaves in their current world.

Erin would come to Witchers world for revenge.

He definitely hates humans the most. I think we don't even know if Avallac'h himself knows about this big travelling or only ancient elves were able to use that. A human was the one who "destroyed" the Lara Gene. Humans don't treat elves "right" and there was even a story about this old human witch and the elven girl/woman.

 

[Scholdarr.452]

I'm not saying otherwise. We don't know what the agreement was. And there are plenty of worlds and humans to be hated by Avallac. They even have them as slaves in their current world.

No, he hates them for a specifc reason, other than Eredin. It's not just racism for him. He hates them because they stole Lara from him. There are very clear hints in the books for what Avallac'h felt for Lara. Now add a few decades of grief, anger and sadness and you have a pretty good impression of Avallac'h's mind...

But anyway, while your theory might work within the specifics of what is shown in the game it's still a poor solution for a video game in specific. If people have to take wild guesses what happened it's not something that works well. Leaving things up for imagination is fine. Leaving basicall everything up to imagination is just lazy and/or incompetent imo...

 

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Wait. What about that MF fox lied to Ciri as well, told her the BS about White Frost etc. Ones she enters that portal believing that she is going to fight WF. All it is an illusion where she gets ambushed and taken away, the place where is no unicornes at all . And then they wipe her memory of the last year or so and send her back in time to Witcher's world.

 

[Scholdarr.452]

I don't know if in this whole thread are some hidden subtexts, but motives of Avallach are quite clearly and logically presented in the game. In contrast to Eredin, Avallach knew that conquer the world of The Witcher is only a temporary solution, because White Frost sooner or later will come also to this world. Only Ciri could stop the White Frost, and that's what Avallach wanted from her.

Well, the point is that not only the world of the Aen Elle and the world in which Geralt lives exist. It's a true multiverse. Once the Aen Elle have the potential to open Ard Gard again, they can travel everywhere again. Not only to the Witcher world. They could settle in new worlds and once the frost comes they move on. So it's a "valid" theory imo within the boundaries of what's shown in the game.

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Wait. What about that MF fox lied to Ciri as well, told her the BS about White Frost etc. One she enters that portal believing that she is going to fight WF. All it is is an illusion where she gets ambushed and taken away, they place where is no unicornes at all . And then they wipe her memory of the last year or so and send her back in time to Witcher's world.

Haha, everything is possible. Headcanon and such...

But as I've said: if you have to make stuff up on your own the stoy failed. I can daydream all day long for myself. When I want to experience a story somebody else created I want a consistent and logical story and not just parts of it...