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Keith_Latondress

Keith_Latondress

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#61
Sep 10, 2018
well they did say they took inspiration from the night city source book . and if there city is as detailed as that one then that will be impressive.
 
evilhippo

evilhippo

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#62
Sep 10, 2018
Rawls said:
Again this assumes the metro map is somewhere close to scale.
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Metro 'maps' (for example London's iconic Tube 'map') are usually schematic diagrams rather than true maps, and thus are not to scale at all, as for clarity, that would actually make them much larger and harder to understand. So I suspect the Night City metro map is not at all to scale.
 
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Rawls

Rawls

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#63
Sep 10, 2018
evilhippo said:
So I suspect the Night City metro map is not at all to scale.
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I completely agree. But all of our speculation here basically requires assuming it's a least somewhat accurate in order to come up with some form of "best guess."
 
Hoplite_22

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#64
Sep 11, 2018
Rawls said:
I completely agree. But all of our speculation here basically requires assuming it's a least somewhat accurate in order to come up with some form of "best guess."
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I mean people do know that metro/underground maps are logical and not physical right? that was the innovation that the designer of the London underground map made and all underground/metro systems followed on from.
 
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sv3672

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#65
Sep 11, 2018
RavixCuatrocuernos said:
I'll be happy if something of that size is FULL (literally) of buildings with options to get in. Soooooo happy.
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I think there will be plenty of content, overall a fair bit more than in The Witcher 3 (despite the likely smaller horizontal map area, the density more than makes up for that), even if on such a large map (for a city), it is probably not realistic to expect every building to have fully explorable and unique interiors.

Hoplite_22 said:
I mean people do know that metro/underground maps are logical and not physical right?
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It was mentioned a number of times throughout this thread that the metro map is probably not accurate. But unfortunately we have nothing better at the moment, in the demo, the actual game map (which I guess would have been under the GPS tab on the UI) was never shown. However, the overall layout is probably still about right, even if any single point could have been moved around by as much as 100 meters. So, guessing the scale from distant landmarks (e.g. Orbital Air Space Center vs. All Food and the view location) hopefully still gives a rough estimate within like 10-20% at worst.
 
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sv3672

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#66
Sep 13, 2018
Lucian06 said:
How many Floors are In the tallest Building in Night City?
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On the topic of heights, the building in the center of view below seems to be about 250 meters tall. That is, assuming 500 meters distance and 81 degrees horizontal (= 51.3 degrees vertical) FOV. The tower on the right, below the quest objectives is somewhat farther away and is of similar height. For comparison, the tallest buildings in Fallout 4 like Mass Fusion and Trinity Tower are about 160 meters high.
The height of the Orbital Air building (not on this picture, it is outside the view to the right) could be more than 400 meters, but it is hard to tell because the bottom part is never clearly visible.
 
KakitaTatsumaru

KakitaTatsumaru

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#67
Sep 13, 2018
I remember CDprojekt saying four times TW3 somewhere.
 
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sv3672

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#68
Sep 13, 2018
I do not think they said that, it was a rumor around last September.
 
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Rawls

Rawls

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#69
Sep 13, 2018
^This.
 
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sv3672

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#70
Sep 13, 2018
Slightly updated map, using a somewhat better quality metro map picture from here, and with a handful of new landmarks:
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EngryEngineer

EngryEngineer

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#71
Sep 13, 2018
evilhippo said:
Metro 'maps' (for example London's iconic Tube 'map') are usually schematic diagrams rather than true maps, and thus are not to scale at all, as for clarity, that would actually make them much larger and harder to understand. So I suspect the Night City metro map is not at all to scale.
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I can confirm Chicago and San Francisco follow London's example of being a logical map rather than a literal one, San Francisco being particularly relevant in this situation as it is pretty close to where Night City according to the cyberpunk 2020 maps.
 
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sv3672

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#72
Sep 14, 2018
It does look like an idealized map, with everything at perfect 45 degrees or right angles. I think especially the train lines were subject to being moved around, for the sake of readability and not overlapping with other lines (I mean, some of those that look like running parallel close to each other could in fact only be separated vertically). But the overall size and shape of the areas with water could be about right, since there is less reason to change those, and the marker locations line up with them reasonably (that is, if within a radius of 100 meters or so counts as such, compared to ~2.5 km between the most distant marked points). I wonder if developers who know the real map could comment on how far off our speculation is.
 
CyberBrett

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#73
Feb 8, 2019
I found this on youtube and thought it needed more views and you guys might enjoy a great vid .

 
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evotaph

evotaph

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#74
Feb 8, 2019
Thank you for this.
 
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sv3672

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#75
Feb 8, 2019
Probably relevant older topic where the map has been discussed extensively, including a number of theories on where the demo locations might be on the metro map.
 
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CyberBrett

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#76
Feb 9, 2019
sv3672 said:
Probably relevant older topic where the map has been discussed extensively, including a number of theories on where the demo locations might be on the metro map.
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Thanks for the link back , many are like me either new members or new lurkers might not have seen this thread .
 
Rawls

Rawls

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#77
Feb 9, 2019
CyberBrett said:
I found this on youtube and thought it needed more views and you guys might enjoy a great vid
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thread merged into sheer scale of night city
 
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SavageMen

SavageMen

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#78
Feb 10, 2019
That V's apartment looks nice. Hope this game will have many contents able to interact with a player character. Whatever the story is, I still value the player freedom when playing RPG.
 
Cyberway

Cyberway

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#79
Feb 10, 2019
sv3672 said:
I do not think they said that, it was a rumor around last September.
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I honestly believe its gonna be much bigger, CD Projekt Red isnt in position to lie and bs people yet, imho. One successful series doesnt make you a hero.

Btw, Ive been thinking maybe Kingdome Come Deliverence team could join to them? Doubt they get much better publisher.
 
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sv3672

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#80
Feb 10, 2019
Cyberway said:
I honestly believe its gonna be much bigger, CD Projekt Red isnt in position to lie and bs people yet, imho. One successful series doesnt make you a hero.
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CDPR did not lie about anything regarding the size of the map, the claim that it would be 4 times bigger than The Witcher 3 is only a rumor from unofficial sources. Actual quotes from the developers always avoided the topic of comparing the two games in terms of horizontal area, and emphasized the verticality of Night City, that would be in line with a "smaller" but more densely packed map. Knowing that TW3 is already one of the largest modern open worlds, it would not be realistic to expect a map with ~500 km2 area if it was not mostly a wasteland, or procedurally generated content, but both of those have been denied.
 
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