Yeah I picked Corp initially cause I wanted to have fun being an entitled POS but being kicked out of the corp like 10 min in the game I quit and re-rolled a Streetkid. IMO Streetkid is who this particular story was geared for.
Soo true.... going away and coming back from Atlanta - like CJ in GTA SA.. and making big - night city legend. Def. was the street kid path and they just said hey we are going to do multriplayer in few years lets just make 2 more paths...
I think the 6 month montage with Jackie should have been the opening act of the game IF you pick Streetkid. The other lifepaths should have had their own opening acts.
Though I realize realistically that is cost and time prohibitive.
Though I realize realistically that is cost and time prohibitive.
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Yeah I didn't make the SA connection but yeah.
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Yep. I posted elsewhere that when I was gigging hard to make eddies to buy this one fancy car I wanted, it hit me: This makes NO sense in the context of my character in this story. Though to be clear I ignored that and just played having a lot of fun.
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It is not about having more Jackie, but having an act 1 that we can enjoy Night City without the false sense of urgency that having the chip brings. I am not against having antagonist like Silverhand in our heads (except maybe in romances) but...I don't know....I wish if no free to roam and enjoy NC act 1, there should have been a lot more 'dead ends' to the main quests so you can go and do side missions without headcannoning why you are not doing something that might have a very short time limit
....and that, I believe, can be fixed in an enhanced edition...not adding act (would be wonderful but probably too much work), but fixing/reworking the pacing of the main quest....
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Disagree, the Johnny Silverhand story is Canon stuff they clearly wanted to get that story out there, this idea that developers like this who had millions to work with would be obligated to changed one of their two main IP simply to fit an actor .. I dont buy it. I dont know about the original tabletop game but Silverhand shows up on everything he is like the mascot almost the story was probably always going to have a strong Silverhand connection. NOW your point of the 6 month time skip being playable basically building yourself up as a solid Merc for 10 hours and then jump into the Silverhand arc would have been interesting. The thing is imaging having all those hours of building your merc up to then have to start from zero idk. I also feel people would have felt betrayed by a " second act " if it had been done that way especially if it becomes like a point of no return type thing. In the end DLC can actually inject some of what you are talking about, Imagine a DLC right before the heist were you do a Job with Jackie that becomes a huge 15 hour detour that gives you new perspectives, new allies and new items id be down with that as long as as some of it carries over to the main story line in some form.
100% agreed. Also leads to heavy inconsistences, like "hello V, im padre ibarra" When you have already met him in the montage.
Point of no return should have been when you get the relic, imo.
Not changing the story more like...to add more Silverhand stuff they had to cut contend.
...but damn it, now I want to play very early where my ex-corpo try to get a fixer to give her a chance
Do you have any proof of this? Any at all?
Please stop putting out rumors as facts. Thanks
I think most people want the montage gone and instead get some playtime (maybe restricted?) to play this part themselves. maybe jackie gives you a tour through Night City and you got to know about the different fixers that you know by the time the montage ended. Might be a collaboration work/quest which leads you through the city itself.
It seems so weird to have a montage within a game, so lazy.
It hardly matters now though because I could care less if they added this or not, I mean we know the outcome since what seems like the second half of the game got released instead of this, it kind of takes the fun away.
If CDPR where smart (which apparently they are not), they should of released this portion of the game first, if they plan to at all. I mean it makes sense right?
It hardly matters now though because I could care less if they added this or not, I mean we know the outcome since what seems like the second half of the game got released instead of this, it kind of takes the fun away.
If CDPR where smart (which apparently they are not), they should of released this portion of the game first, if they plan to at all. I mean it makes sense right?
The same reason why a lot of people probably don't understand why you're in love with Silverhand. Different tastes.
I wanted the six-month montage because obviously a lot of interesting stuff goes down there. We meet all our friends and develop such strong bonds with them. Honestly, in the six months, we were there, Mama Welles basically adopts us as her own. Jackie treats us as a straight-up sibling. Vik becomes almost fatherly, Misty is all smiles and understanding. I feel like I've known these people for years when in reality it was six months. What happened in those six months where our bonds with these people became so strong?
I want to know what I stole for padre, who was the corp person we jacked the case from. Who are all these guys we're fighting. How does Mama Welles cook? How did we meet Wakako the fixer?
I think this makes no real sense (at least for me), when there are miriads of people rewatching the same movie, replaying the same games or similar stuff. It's not exclusive to cyberpunk at all. If you enjoy a setting, a story or whatever you will probably come back and play it again. It might not be you, but lots of other people might enjoy it.
Also it's about "polishing" the gaming experience to higher levels. granting more immersion and for you to get to know certain characters more, so the impact of losing some is stronger.
Agree-ish. Main Quest line is a total let down. Not just how it ends, but how narrow it is and how meaningless choice is during it. Even the choices made before the game even starts are useless.
Not sure where I would put it, but something more branching and unique per play through and what it is now.
Not sure where I would put it, but something more branching and unique per play through and what it is now.
Well it is a fact Keanu himself wasn't involved in the project til late 2018. Though of course you are correct this doesn't mean the story we got wasn't what they'd intended all along. Maybe they just hadn't cast the actor for the character yet.
However there is a bit of presumably left over content where you hear on the radio in-game that Johnny Silverhand died last year which indicates... something.
Also from what I've read, prior to Keanu joining they never talked about or hinted about the game being about Silverhand.
So given the incredible change in scope of the game from what was offered to what we got, combined with the above it's natural for people to assume the game changed because they got Keanu. I mean on a base level it makes total sense the game changed cause they got Keanu. I mean, if you're in charge of a video game and someone tells you "Hey, we got Keanu" you're gonna want to accommodate and try to take full advantage of that. What makes it problematic is that he joined so late in the development of the game.
Don't get me wrong I obviously want more Jackie and V content and I know the story needs it and lets face it it's better to have actual gameplay than a poor looking montage.
However, what I dislike is how they decided to add it after the events of The Heist, so for me at least it just wont have the same impact that I would otherwise be hoping for. It's already been spoiled, unless of course they decide to change the ending of The Heist mission to a certain extent.
However, I do still think that it should be added and I'm sure anyone new to the game would appreciate it more too. However, the only way for me to actually decide to play this would as I said if they somehow change the ending of The Heist mission and/or making it free, which in truth it should be free anyway seeing as it's cut content.
Also, a lot of my last post was purely out of frustration too. I just want to be able to enjoy the game but alas I just can't and everything I seem to be reading lately is another reason I find to dislike how the company has so far handled things.
Yeah, I'm not sure about this. If you go back and watch interviews with Mike Pondsmith from last year, he talks about how when CDprojectRed first pitched the project to him, they were pretty gung-ho from the beginning about using the storylines of Johny Silverhand and Alt Cunningham in the game. If anything, I believe it was the character of V. that largely evolved over the development cycle of the game. I'm thinking back to the original trailer, the one released in 2013 (or was it 2012, Jesus this has been long time coming) I'm talking about the one that focused on the woman with the mantis blades who appeared to have succumbed to cyberpsychosis. In that trailer there is a lot of focus on the Max-Tac team sent to subdue her and one of their members looks to be a proto-version of Male V. So, I would argue that if anything, the concept of V as a freelance merc and Jackie as his partner in crime were later additions to the game than Johnny and Alt. The game was always going to be about Johnny. Devs just kept a lid on that fact from the general public until the Keanu Reeves trailer.
I don't know if they will ever read this but this is something which made me turn my nose up and made me understand the game was quite different than expected and promsied. You can't cut so many missions and characters and story and merge them in such a way.
WE DID NOT DESERVE THIS TREATMENT.
WE DID NOT DESERVE THIS TREATMENT.
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I am one of the players who think that Johnny and his role should have been in the latter part of the game, allowing us to develop V, and to enjoy more of NC and its inhabitants, along the way. I found the 'Johnny as protagonist' scenario robbed me of the development of my own character, V, and appeared primarily focussed on something that, frankly, was uninteresting.
The game is good, I'm not running it down, but I feel would have been better overall if I'd been given more time to play my own character, rather than having him hijacked by a lunatic so early on in the game.
Bleating aside, the other important characters have been excellent, Judy is completely amazing (my V is male) throughout - and the underwater session was incredibly well put together. Panam has been fun too, particularly in the finale where I was very pleased to have her, and the rest of the family, along.
It would have been good to be able to meet some of the fixers socially, but perhaps I missed the opportunity this play through, I'll start another character soon.
The game is good, I'm not running it down, but I feel would have been better overall if I'd been given more time to play my own character, rather than having him hijacked by a lunatic so early on in the game.
Bleating aside, the other important characters have been excellent, Judy is completely amazing (my V is male) throughout - and the underwater session was incredibly well put together. Panam has been fun too, particularly in the finale where I was very pleased to have her, and the rest of the family, along.
It would have been good to be able to meet some of the fixers socially, but perhaps I missed the opportunity this play through, I'll start another character soon.
For me it's just about getting to know Jackie more and all these other characters that seem to know us well (although that too would be interesting), but to give us the chance to explore night city without the urgency we find ourselves under.
....maybe have the urgent missions only in the late stage of the game, where there are just a few side quests and whether you accept them or not has real consequences....
I don't like Silverhand to be so late. I am fine with the story of us dying (because of how stupid we were!) but wish for the 'leads' to a possible cure to come later. Let us work for it. Gathering eddies/connections etc, so we are prepared/have the means to follow these 'leads'.
....maybe have the urgent missions only in the late stage of the game, where there are just a few side quests and whether you accept them or not has real consequences....
I would have liked +5 hours of you being corpo/nomad/streetkid
+5~10 hours of the montage
the rest follows as before
+5~10 hours of the montage
the rest follows as before