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The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

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The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

  • Dissatisfied from the lack of Triss content and want more

    Votes: 1,194 85.3%
  • I don't care at all

    Votes: 40 2.9%
  • There was enough of Triss in the game

    Votes: 128 9.1%
  • I don't like Triss

    Votes: 38 2.7%

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DaWitcher

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#2,581
Jun 7, 2015
levlev89 said:
But then most of the player(who dont know the books) would instantly jump on Triss. Just because they dont know Yen. That would kill the whole Yeneffer stuff right away. And then, we would have a "No Yeneffer content! Give us more Yeneffer!"
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No on is against having more Yen and Triss but the game is not the book. The game should have been evenly distributed allowing the gamer to decide. Our biggest issue is that the game is skewed toward Yen. If you go with Yen everyone is ok with that decision. If you go with Triss no one acknowledge your decision/choice or your relationship. Not even Yen. It's disturbing.
 
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luc0s

Forum veteran
#2,582
Jun 7, 2015
CaptainZamzabam said:
Except for when he was about to give up being a Witcher in the books and then gets stabbed by a pitchfork.
Settling down is totally in character for him. Technically he isn't retiring completely either, as the ending has him taking the occasional Witcher contract. Seems to me that is more like Geralt than the Yennefer ending.
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It's not the retiring part that I found out of character, it's him leaving the Northen Realms to live in a land far away (Kovir) that rubbed me the wrong way. He's basically leaving behind all of his friends, including Ciri (!) to live in a land far away that is strange to him, a land he has no connections or ties with, just because Triss wanted it. I don't think Geralt would ever do that, but that's just my opinion, clearly CDPR disagrees with me else they wouldn't have put that ending in the game.
 
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Raptorini

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#2,583
Jun 7, 2015
moonknightgog said:
And bioware have the same problem. What you choose in Mass Effect 1 and 2....doesn't affect Mass Effect 3 at all. It's the same for Dragon Age franchise.
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I don't agree with you. When I played ME3 I had whole time (don't count this stupid Endings) feeling that my previous choices from ME1,ME2 changed a lot in game. But this is offtopic ;)
 
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levlev89

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#2,584
Jun 7, 2015
luc0s said:
It's not the retiring part that I found out of character, it's him leaving the Northen Realms to live in a land far away (Kovir) that rubbed me the wrong way. He's basically leaving behind all of his friends, including Ciri (!) to live in a land far away that is strange to him, a land he has no connections or ties with, just because Triss wanted it. I don't think Geralt would ever do that, but that's just my opinion, clearly CDPR disagrees with me else they wouldn't have put that ending in the game.
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That is actually very true.
 
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Eesti

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#2,585
Jun 7, 2015
@levlev89 i like triss alot and i havnt read the books and i think that this game around yen is just fine to give you an approximated idea of her, what we're been discussing is not that shes the main role but that triss doesnt have a part :p
even if i havnt read the books i wouldnt go for triss straight away, shes cuter etc but yennefer has a strong character and shes intriguing and keeps alot of secrets which i kind of like for a character in a game :p
 
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Costa417

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#2,586
Jun 7, 2015
xE1NSTE1Nx2049 said:
Additional Cut Scenes - 11 new rendered cut-scenes that enrich in-game events. Created using a new set of motion-captured animations and 3 engine-rendered cut scenes that all required extensive post production.
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I have faith now :)
 
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CaptainZamzabam

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#2,587
Jun 7, 2015
luc0s said:
It's not the retiring part that I found out of character, it's him leaving the Northen Realms to live in a land far away (Kovir) that rubbed me the wrong way. He's basically leaving behind all of his friends, including Ciri (!) to live in a land far away that is strange to him, a land he has no connections or ties with, just because Triss wanted it. I don't think Geralt would ever do that, but that's just my opinion, clearly CDPR disagrees with me else they wouldn't have put that ending in the game.
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They're only a teleport away.
Although, he might not like that so much....

About Ciri, I think Geralt has enough confidence in her to let her do the as she wishes.
 
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witcher3_10108

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#2,588
Jun 7, 2015
luc0s said:
He's basically leaving behind all of his friends, including Ciri
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She could just teleport to Geralt anytime xd
 
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luc0s

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#2,589
Jun 7, 2015
DaWitcher said:
No on is against having more Yen and Triss but the game is not the book. The game should have been evenly distributed allowing the gamer to decide. Our biggest issue is that the game is skewed toward Yen. If you go with Yen everyone is ok with that decision. If you go with Triss no one acknowledge your decision/choice or your relationship. Not even Yen. It's disturbing.
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The game isn't skewed towards Yen. It is in fact quite the opposite. Everyone keeps meddling with Geralt's personal life, telling him how bad Yen is and how good Triss would be for him. As a Yen-romancer, it's quite fucking annoying. I want to tell all those NPCs to fuck off and mind their own business.

I know how CDPR handled the Yen romance makes sense and also happened in the books, but I do think CDPR went a bit overboard with the amount of Yen-bashing by the other characters in TW3.

Another reason I don't believe the game is skewed to Yen is the fact that the amount of romance content is near equal between Yen and Triss. The only reason we see Yennefer more often than Triss is because she's more important to the plot of TW3 and she plays a more central role in the game. But if you purely look at romance content alone, Triss and Yen are pretty equal.

Sure, Yen got 1 extra sex scene, big whoop, Triss already had a way longer and more detailed sex scene in TW2 so I'd say things are pretty equal in that regard as well.
 
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levlev89

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#2,590
Jun 7, 2015
Eesti said:
@levlev89 i like triss alot and i havnt read the books and i think that this game around yen is just fine to give you an approximated idea of her, what we're been discussing is not that shes the main role but that triss doesnt have a part :p
even if i havnt read the books i wouldnt go for triss straight away, shes cuter etc but yennefer has a strong character and shes intriguing and keeps alot of secrets which i kind of like for a character in a game :p
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Yeah i know^^ and it pissed me off like you guys. But i think it was still the better idea to start as a single. If Geralt was still with Triss at the beginning, most of the player wouldnt waste a single minute on Yeneffer. Me included btw. I wouldnt mind this character at all. It would be rlly rlly hard to implement Yeneffer if Geralt was still into our Redhead. But this is only my opinion.
 
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msanx

Rookie
#2,591
Jun 7, 2015
DaWitcher said:
No on is against having more Yen and Triss but the game is not the book. The game should have been evenly distributed allowing the gamer to decide. Our biggest issue is that the game is skewed toward Yen. If you go with Yen everyone is ok with that decision. If you go with Triss no one acknowledge your decision/choice or your relationship. Not even Yen. It's disturbing.
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This, the game needed balance to both of the romance options, if you choose Yen then NPC's should acknowledge that, and the same for Triss, however it was the Triss option that barely got any mentions. It shouldn't be like that at all.
 
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luc0s

Forum veteran
#2,592
Jun 7, 2015
CaptainZamzabam said:
They're only a teleport away.
Although, he might not like that so much....
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I'm not sure how teleportation exactly works in the Witcherverse, but I'm sure it's not that simple. Basically the longer the distance for the teleport, the less accurate the teleportation becomes. If teleportation was that simple, why didn't Triss just teleport all the mages to Kovir? Why going through the effort to make an escape plan and escape by boat if she could just teleport to Kovir?

The answer is simple: I don't think she can just teleport people over such a long distance that easily. I mean we've already seen teleportation go wrong during the Keira Metz quest, and that was just her trying to teleport Geralt across the room!
 
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CaptainZamzabam

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#2,593
Jun 7, 2015
levlev89 said:
But i think it was still the better idea to start as a single
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I think the whole starting off single idea was just to give a blank slate for new players. No commitments to start off with, let the players decide later. It is kinda annoying of those importing saves though.

luc0s said:
I'm not sure how teleportation exactly works in the Witcherverse, but I'm sure it's not that simple. Basically the longer the distance for the teleport, the less accurate the teleportation becomes. If teleportation was that simple, why didn't Triss just teleport all the mages to Kovir? Why going through the effort to make an escape plan and escape by boat if she could just teleport to Kovir?

The answer is simple: I don't think she can just teleport people over such a long distance that easily. I mean we've already seen teleportation go wrong during the Keira Metz quest, and that was just her trying to teleport Geralt across the room!
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The teleportation rules are messy. What it can do and when you use it are kinda in flux and depends on the situation.

Except for Ciri. She goes where she wants.
 
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Costa417

Rookie
#2,594
Jun 7, 2015
luc0s said:
The game isn't skewed towards Yen. It is in fact quite the opposite. Everyone keeps meddling with Geralt's personal life, telling him how bad Yen is and how good Triss would be for him. As a Yen-romancer, it's quite fucking annoying. I want to tell all those NPCs to fuck off and mind their own business.

I know how CDPR handled the Yen romance makes sense and also happened in the books, but I do think CDPR went a bit overboard with the amount of Yen-bashing by the other characters in TW3.

Another reason I don't believe the game is skewed to Yen is the fact that the amount of romance content is near equal between Yen and Triss. The only reason we see Yennefer more often than Triss is because she's more important to the plot of TW3 and she plays a more central role in the game. But if you purely look at romance content alone, Triss and Yen are pretty equal.

Sure, Yen got 1 extra sex scene, big whoop, Triss already had a way longer and more detailed sex scene in TW2 so I'd say things are pretty equal in that regard as well.
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This is more about the inconsistency about the triss romance option. After u romance triss the world doesnt react properly and some stuff isnt right, like the KM kiss yen gives to geralt and triss doesnt respond. And this is only a part of the issue
 
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Noobseals

Rookie
#2,595
Jun 7, 2015
CaptainZamzabam said:
Except for when he was about to give up being a Witcher in the books and then gets stabbed by a pitchfork.
Settling down is totally in character for him. Technically he isn't retiring completely either, as the ending has him taking the occasional Witcher contract. Seems to me that is more like Geralt than the Yennefer ending.
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True, despite of the preference of the 2 lovers, I feel Yen ending is a bit idealist and unrealistic.
"A witcher never die on his own bed."
 
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levlev89

Rookie
#2,596
Jun 7, 2015
CaptainZamzabam said:
I think the whole starting off single idea was just to give a blank slate for new players. No commitments to start off with, let the players decide later. It is kinda annoying of those importing saves though.
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well, THAT is something i completely agree. That would be a whole other story. But yeah, the save import was kinda useless. But we got Letho..which is nice. .. i guess
 
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witcher3_10108

Rookie
#2,597
Jun 7, 2015
luc0s said:
If teleportation was that simple, why didn't Triss just teleport all the mages to Kovir?
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Ciri is a little bit more powerful than Triss (just to clerify)
 
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Costa417

Rookie
#2,598
Jun 7, 2015
msanx said:
This, the game needed balance to both of the romance options, if you choose Yen then NPC's should acknowledge that, and the same for Triss, however it was the Triss option that barely got any mentions. It shouldn't be like that at all.
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Exactly the point. Inconsistency is the biggest issue. It's clear that in this game, insted of the W2 for example, the focus is more about ciri and geralt personal life than politics and war itself
 
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levlev89

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#2,599
Jun 7, 2015
luc0s said:
I mean we've already seen teleportation go wrong during the Keira Metz quest, and that was just her trying to teleport Geralt across the room!
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And right after that she teleported from the Cave to her house..something smells fishy, isnt it?
 
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Sooxzay

Senior user
#2,600
Jun 7, 2015
luc0s said:
The game isn't skewed towards Yen. It is in fact quite the opposite. Everyone keeps meddling with Geralt's personal life, telling him how bad Yen is and how good Triss would be for him. As a Yen-romancer, it's quite fucking annoying. I want to tell all those NPCs to fuck off and mind their own business.

I know how CDPR handled the Yen romance makes sense and also happened in the books, but I do think CDPR went a bit overboard with the amount of Yen-bashing by the other characters in TW3.

Another reason I don't believe the game is skewed to Yen is the fact that the amount of romance content is near equal between Yen and Triss. The only reason we see Yennefer more often than Triss is because she's more important to the plot of TW3 and she plays a more central role in the game. But if you purely look at romance content alone, Triss and Yen are pretty equal.

Sure, Yen got 1 extra sex scene, big whoop, Triss already had a way longer and more detailed sex scene in TW2 so I'd say things are pretty equal in that regard as well.
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I would agree with you.

When it comes to comparing the romance its pretty equal tho. When I started playing TW3 I wanted to give Yen a chance and also wanted to see her magical personality since she is Geralts actual true love. The first scene at KM was pretty good so far. Unlike Triss ofc but ok.

My mind changed when I met her at the tavern again and going for Wyzima with her. I just started disliking her the more I played the game because she was like having a black soul. I hate necromancy and wanted to kill Keira but gave her a chance since there was no way around. Same with Yennefer. But not telling Ciri what she did with Skjall wasnt right for me. Another dislike for her.

Buuuut we dont talk about how less romance Triss has comparing to Yen in TW3 for about 250+ pages. This is just a small point of what we are talking about and what we are actually asking for.

Its the last game of Geralts witcher series and we want to remember how great it was. And most of us cant remember about it that way since Triss is standing on the ship at skellige for the entire last act until the battle. You romanced Yen. What would you think if you see your choosen girl in the game staying on a ship in the most important act? Especially when she tells you that she wants to help you and Ciri.

And this is just another small point we are talking about.
 
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