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The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

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The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

  • Dissatisfied from the lack of Triss content and want more

    Votes: 1,194 85.3%
  • I don't care at all

    Votes: 40 2.9%
  • There was enough of Triss in the game

    Votes: 128 9.1%
  • I don't like Triss

    Votes: 38 2.7%

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Riddlin

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#2,661
Jun 7, 2015
SpotEnemyBoats said:
CDPR is one of the few AAA developers left that seem to least care about fan feedback, so I really hope that Triss and friends from the past two games have a big role in the upcoming expansions. I'm at the Isle of Mist and I can't pull myself to finish it.

We've got two years of TW3 support from RED, so at least we have time on our side. Its a matter of desire from the devs and if there is enough fans that desire it.
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I am in NO way trying to honestly influence your decision...but, I wish I hadn't finished it. :( Until something is done about the ending...I don't have a lot of desire to play a second trip through. And that makes me very sad.

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xE1NSTE1Nx2049 said:
The poll also has 538 votes (85% in our favor)
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It has stayed a very solid 83-86% since the first day!
 
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Noobseals

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Jun 7, 2015
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xE1NSTE1Nx2049 said:
Well they did address that one. The Wild Hunt navigator, Caranthir, was messing with any other portals in the area. Hence why they got separated. But I agree with you, the teleporting stuff seems inconsistent. Sometimes it's incredibly accurate and long-ranges and can handle multiple people and sometimes it goes horribly awry with just one person. Kind of a weird thing we were never really told anything about.

With Ciri though, it seems she is able to teleport long distances and across time and space quite accurately. She takes her and Geralt from the Isle of the Mists, which is sort of an extra-dimensional Limbo-like space, all the way to Kaer Morhen. Again, they don't give us a lot of details on teleportation or how it works.
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As I remember it was disturbed by the portal set by Avalla.
I think it is clear to understand how teleporting works - either teleporting over a longer distance or teleporting with more people requires more magic power.
So in the game most sorceresses can teleport themselves long distances or teleport short distances with one more people.
 
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Redemyr

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#2,663
Jun 7, 2015
Well, I'm finishing up the content in Novigrad and knowing what's next, decided to come to the therapy group instead :)

There's a saying in my country, kind of goes like, "if you have nothing positive to say, then don't say anything," so I'll refrain on commenting what I think about all the book fanatics who made the story go this way...

Instead, I'll thank whoever saw that it was more important to give players a choice, sacrificing the narrative in the process... may your voice be heard again...
 
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SpotEnemyBoats

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#2,664
Jun 7, 2015
Riddlin said:
I am in NO way trying to honestly influence your decision...but, I wish I hadn't finished it. :( Until something is done about the ending...I don't have a lot of desire to play a second trip through. And that makes me very sad.
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Yeah, me too. I was hoping that this game was going to be about choices affecting the game, I get that they were trying to get in new players. However, we have been invested in this characters and its upsetting that they are merely background decorations in TW3.

We can't change the Wild Hunt story, but we can however give input what we'd like to see in DLC. The more Triss fans vote in this poll, the better. I wonder if tweeting this thread might be a good idea?
 
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msanx

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#2,665
Jun 7, 2015
Redemyr said:
Well, I'm finishing up the content in Novigrad and knowing what's next, decided to come to the therapy group instead :)

There's a saying in my country, kind of goes like, "if you have nothing positive to say, then don't say anything," so I'll refrain on commenting what I think about all the book fanatics who made the story go this way...

Instead, I'll thank whoever saw that it was more important to give players a choice, sacrificing the narrative in the process... may your voice be heard again...
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Group therapy is good, you can always play the Witcher 2 to see more Triss at least until we get some news or some hint :)

As for the book fans....yeah lets not go there :gathering:
 
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xE1NSTE1Nx2049

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Jun 7, 2015
Noobseals said:
As I remember it was disturbed by the portal set by Avalla.
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I thought it was the portal set by Caranthir as they were looking for Avalac'h. The Navigator was screwing up all the other portals. Just my interpretation. But sometimes it is inconsistent. I agree that a stronger portal would require more magical energy but still, sometimes they work exactly how they were intended and other times they don't. I don't care too much about portals, myself. Like Geralt, I prefer the traditional means of travel. You might bump into something interesting on the way. :p

Riddlin said:
I am in NO way trying to honestly influence your decision...but, I wish I hadn't finished it. Until something is done about the ending...I don't have a lot of desire to play a second trip through. And that makes me very sad.
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I don't know. I feel like they won't change the endings. My dissatisfaction with the endings is just the fact that they had to end. Every game has to end eventually. I am more dissatisfied with the stuff that happens during the game. Triss is the biggest source of my disappointment but there are others. The whole final third or so of the game is too rushed. The pacing is uneven. Overall, I am okay with the endings. They just don't feel as rewarding as they could have been because of the few disappointing parts of the game. I ended up with the feeling that there were too many things left hanging in the air with too many major characters. Too many loose ends that didn't tied up. :X

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SpotEnemyBoats said:
I wonder if tweeting this thread might be a good idea?
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Certainly couldn't hurt :p
 
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hawkeyesforever

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Jun 7, 2015
SpotEnemyBoats said:
Yeah, me too. I was hoping that this game was going to be about choices affecting the game, I get that they were trying to get in new players. However, we have been invested in this characters and its upsetting that they are merely background decorations in TW3.

We can't change the Wild Hunt story, but we can however give input what we'd like to see in DLC. The more Triss fans vote in this poll, the better. I wonder if tweeting this thread might be a good idea?
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Tweeting it could be a good idea, never know.

I'm in the same boat, just finished my first playthrough last night and got the ending I desired. I've barely started my second playthrough and I'm in White Orchard just thinking to myself, "Do I really want to finish a 2nd playthrough." I mean, I romanced Triss the first time and was really disappointed with the lack of Triss content after the lighthouse, the only real change would be to romance Yen this time. Other than that no matter what I'd do I'd still arrive at the same ending anyways so why bother?

To your last point, I'd go so far as to say not just Triss needs more DLC content, but all the main characters left over do, just to give some closure. I mean after the end when you're left in KM for mopup duty, it just feels so empty. The game is really begging to have the main characters put in the KM castle to at least have some dialogue or more quests with them to clean up loose ends.

Hopefully that's why CDPR made KM bare like that, so that they could branch off with additional DLC easily from there. It seems like a logical way to do it.
 
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ILoveTriss

Forum regular
#2,668
Jun 7, 2015
Honestly this was the best rpg I played all the way until the end. The game/story was amazing but I just want to have interactions with character at the end even if it's the same thing over and over. Kinda like GTA V where you can go on dates or do activities with the characters and you have the opportunity to do it over again. I've heard that they are putting 2 years into this game so I am excited to see what they can do and they always listen to their fans. I'm sure if they go on the forums they will see this thread if they haven't already.
 
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SpotEnemyBoats

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#2,669
Jun 7, 2015
xE1NSTE1Nx2049 said:
I thought it was the portal set by Caranthir as they were looking for Avalac'h. The Navigator was screwing up all the other portals. Just my interpretation. But sometimes it is inconsistent. I agree that a stronger portal would require more magical energy but still, sometimes they work exactly how they were intended and other times they don't. I don't care too much about portals, myself. Like Geralt, I prefer the traditional means of travel. You might bump into something interesting on the way. :p



I don't know. I feel like they won't change the endings. My dissatisfaction with the endings is just the fact that they had to end. Every game has to end eventually. I am more dissatisfied with the stuff that happens during the game. Triss is the biggest source of my disappointment but there are others. The whole final third or so of the game is too rushed. The pacing is uneven. Overall, I am okay with the endings. They just don't feel as rewarding as they could have been because of the few disappointing parts of the game. I ended up with the feeling that there were too many things left hanging in the air with too many major characters. Too many loose ends that didn't tied up. :X

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Certainly couldn't hurt :p
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hawkeyesforever said:
Tweeting it could be a good idea, never know.

I'm in the same boat, just finished my first playthrough last night and got the ending I desired. I've barely started my second playthrough and I'm in White Orchard just thinking to myself, "Do I really want to finish a 2nd playthrough." I mean, I romanced Triss the first time and was really disappointed with the lack of Triss content after the lighthouse, the only real change would be to romance Yen this time. Other than that no matter what I'd do I'd still arrive at the same ending anyways so why bother?

To your last point, I'd go so far as to say not just Triss needs more DLC content, but all the main characters left over do, just to give some closure. I mean after the end when you're left in KM for mopup duty, it just feels so empty. The game is really begging to have the main characters put in the KM castle to at least have some dialogue or more quests with them to clean up loose ends.

Hopefully that's why CDPR made KM bare like that, so that they could branch off with additional DLC easily from there. It seems like a logical way to do it.
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I tweeted it and so far there seems to gained a few extra in the poll.
 
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klungi

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#2,670
Jun 7, 2015
luc0s said:
It's not the retiring part that I found out of character, it's him leaving the Northen Realms to live in a land far away (Kovir) that rubbed me the wrong way. He's basically leaving behind all of his friends, including Ciri (!) to live in a land far away that is strange to him, a land he has no connections or ties with, just because Triss wanted it. I don't think Geralt would ever do that, but that's just my opinion, clearly CDPR disagrees with me else they wouldn't have put that ending in the game.
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Dude, Look at a god damn map, Kovir isn't far away is a part of the northern realms. And Geralt leaving his friends, he does that shit all the time., it is the nature of his profession. And now Ciri has adopted it as well, if you get the witchering ending. They will see each other at times in a tavern, or at the witcher fortress. Just like in the books and the games. Geralt isn't the type who starts weeping because Dandilion isn't holding his hand 24/7.
 
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enk1

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#2,671
Jun 7, 2015
SpotEnemyBoats said:
I wonder if tweeting this thread might be a good idea?
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Just #moreTriss pls :) We can also make facebook account and yt channel :D
 
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SpotEnemyBoats

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#2,672
Jun 7, 2015
enk1 said:
Just #moreTriss pls :) We can also make facebook account and yt channel :D
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so far I've used rather simple hashtags like #thewitcher3 #trissmerigold #witcher3wildhunt - but that hastag sound fine, we need to think of hastags if we want to signal boost.

I even tweeted to CDPR's official twitter, don't pester CDPR but at least let our voices be heard.
 
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bigmaccy

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Jun 7, 2015
it comes down to this for me, 1st half full of side quests zoltan,dandelion,triss, then after khaer mhoren nothnig its a straight sprint to the end the pacing is really off which is made worse knowing that no mattter your choice of romance its always gonna be yen at your side and not the girl you love
 
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hawkeyesforever

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Jun 7, 2015
bigmaccy said:
it comes down to this for me, 1st half full of side quests zoltan,dandelion,triss, then after khaer mhoren nothnig its a straight sprint to the end the pacing is really off which is made worse knowing that no mattter your choice of romance its always gonna be yen at your side and not the girl you love
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Agreed, after Koer Morhen it's one big sprint to the end. It completely contradicts the pace leading up to it. My first playthrough I didn't mind, because I was sort of rushing to see the end anyways, but in subsequent playthroughs it is going to bug me and make me want to just not do Act 3 at all.
 
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msanx

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Jun 7, 2015
ILoveTriss said:
Honestly this was the best rpg I played all the way until the end. The game/story was amazing but I just want to have interactions with character at the end even if it's the same thing over and over. Kinda like GTA V where you can go on dates or do activities with the characters and you have the opportunity to do it over again. I've heard that they are putting 2 years into this game so I am excited to see what they can do and they always listen to their fans. I'm sure if they go on the forums they will see this thread if they haven't already.
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I think we would all love that kind of interaction with the characters (not just Triss), however this is the Witcher and any interacting has to stay true to what the Witcher is about. I know some people are skeptical about any possible interactions with Triss in future dlc/expansions, but this is CDPR and i would bet on them integrating something into dlc that would at least mention/reference Triss. As others have stated, they do listen to fans and while they haven't yet commented on this thread, i am almost certain they have come across this thread at least a couple of times and whatever their plans are for this game over the next 18 months, they would at least be considering more interactions with characters from this games, so yeah being excited about the possibilities is great and is better than us fans losing hope (especially since the game only just came out). :)
 
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ILoveTriss

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#2,676
Jun 7, 2015
msanx said:
I think we would all love that kind of interaction with the characters (not just Triss), however this is the Witcher and any interacting has to stay true to what the Witcher is about. I know some people are skeptical about any possible interactions with Triss in future dlc/expansions, but this is CDPR and i would bet on them integrating something into dlc that would at least mention/reference Triss. As others have stated, they do listen to fans and while they haven't yet commented on this thread, i am almost certain they have come across this thread at least a couple of times and whatever their plans are for this game over the next 18 months, they would at least be considering more interactions with characters from this games, so yeah being excited about the possibilities is great and is better than us fans losing hope (especially since the game only just came out). :)
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Yes I agree not just triss but yen and other characters. In the ending dialogue it says that you live with triss or yen but then you don't get to see them or interact with them. This a great company and I'm going to continue to have high hopes for the future with the things they can add :)
 
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Hazevamp

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Jun 7, 2015
klungi said:
Dude, Look at a god damn map, Kovir isn't far away is a part of the northern realms. And Geralt leaving his friends, he does that shit all the time., it is the nature of his profession. And now Ciri has adopted it as well, if you get the witchering ending. They will see each other at times in a tavern, or at the witcher fortress. Just like in the books and the games. Geralt isn't the type who starts weeping because Dandilion isn't holding his hand 24/7.
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Right, I don't understand what is so wrong with Geralt going off on his own, he's been doing that for three games. It just seems like a poor attempt at trying to stack negatives on the Triss choice. Like Geralt is suddenly going to wilt because he isn't under his friends every single day. Also in the Triss ending they keep their doors open for guests all the time and at any hour. In other words, Geralt and Triss have plenty of company in Kovir. Why wouldn't that company also include their closest friends?
 
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xE1NSTE1Nx2049

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Jun 7, 2015
hawkeyesforever said:
the only real change would be to romance Yen this time.
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Traitor!

hawkeyesforever said:
Other than that no matter what I'd do I'd still arrive at the same ending anyways so why bother?
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Well there's a variety of endings. For me, it's about the journey not the destination. Probably why I'm not too upset about the ending. Games have been letting me down ending-wise for many years. Endings, even happy ones, are bitter-sweet because that means the journey has to come to an end.

hawkeyesforever said:
Hopefully that's why CDPR made KM bare like that, so that they could branch off with additional DLC easily from there. It seems like a logical way to do it.
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I don't know if they will do that. The reason the endgame state is bare is because then the world wouldn't have to react to the ending. I think they said something like there are 33 possible endings. They would need around 33 different dialogues for every major character. For some endings the war ends and for others the war rages. There's just too many variables at play to create a realistic endgame state. I think the expansions will take place sometime in the middle of the game. Leveling them appropriately could be tricky though.

ILoveTriss said:
The game/story was amazing but I just want to have interactions with character at the end even if it's the same thing over and over.
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I don't know. This could be something that they would have to spend a decent amount of time on and it probably wouldn't really pay off in any meaningful way. It would just be a kind of distraction and something to kill time. Sorry, but I don't particularly like this idea. :X There's better ways the resources could be utilized. That's just me though.

ILoveTriss said:
I'm sure if they go on the forums they will see this thread if they haven't already.
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They have. Of this I am sure. Don't know what they will do about it yet but they definitely have seen it. It's conspicuously one of the only large threads that has yet to receive developer input.

First off @klungi watch the way you say it. It sort of came off as mean to me. :X

klungi said:
Geralt leaving his friends, he does that shit all the time., it is the nature of his profession. And now Ciri has adopted it as well, if you get the witchering ending. They will see each other at times in a tavern, or at the witcher fortress. Just like in the books and the games. Geralt isn't the type who starts weeping because Dandilion isn't holding his hand 24/7
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I agree to most of what you said here. The location doesn't bother me. Geralt doesn't need to keep everybody close to him at all times. The simple life seems like it would suit him quite nicely. I also like to imagine that he and Triss occasionally make their way back to the continent. Probably for a variety of reasons. Triss is sent by King Tancred to talk to other other royal peoples. Geralt goes with her. Geralt receives a lucrative or particularly interesting Witcher contract that he wants to pursue for old times sake - it takes him back to Velen. Triss goes with him. After work, they catch up with everybody. Dandelion, Zoltan, Ciri, and yes even Yen from time to time.
 
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zaskar70

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#2,679
Jun 7, 2015
ILoveTriss said:
Yes I agree not just triss but yen and other characters. In the ending dialogue it says that you live with triss or yen but then you don't get to see them or interact with them. This a great company and I'm going to continue to have high hopes for the future with the things they can add :)
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It's really quite simple, they can’t end Geralt's story which ends Triss' story with her spewing nothing but "well", "well", "well", if they do it will be very sad. I can’t imagine that they would do that to such a major character in their series. If they never intended her to become such a fan favorite they certainly went about it the wrong way.

It's CDPR's fault that so many people adore Triss Merigold, the way they wrote their series Geralt is the lead actor, Triss is the lead actress and everyone else has a supporting role. If this wasn't the end of the story for them I might have been able to accept Triss giving up her lead role to Yennefer for the sake of introducing her to the series but since they have said this is it, it's over for them I find it unacceptable and very very disappointing.
 
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ILoveTriss

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Jun 7, 2015
zaskar70 said:
It's really quite simple, they can’t end Geralt's story which ends Triss' story with her spewing nothing but "well", "well", "well", if they do it will be very sad. I can’t imagine that they would do that to such a major character in their series. If they never intended her to become such a fan favorite they certainly went about it the wrong way.

It's CDPR's fault that so many people adore Triss Merigold, the way they wrote their series Geralt is the lead actor, Triss is the lead actress and everyone else has a supporting role. If this wasn't the end of the story for them I might have been able to accept Triss giving up her lead role to Yennefer for the sake of introducing her to the series but since they have said this is it, it's over for them I find it unacceptable and very very disappointing.
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When you say it's over for them do you mean that they will be focusing on yen?
 
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