Ok thanks. On my 4th playthrough and tried to romance Yen but the Triss scenes you get were too good. Just makes me hope even more that the devs will do something about the romances.
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Yes i think that too. If Triss romance was a serious focus im sure they would have done it way better
I still cant believe they actually thought IN THE FIRST PLACE it was fine to leave Triss behind, not letting the choice to the player. Why? She was there in the first two games and with so much weight on the story
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I think more than anything, it can give CDPR a good idea of how their paid expansions will sell AND in what number. Funny, I know they have cost of development, if they published it themselves that would save them some(seem to remember Atari was the publisher/distribution partner for TW2 I think) and then they had all those niffty box sets with all the goodies...those don't be cheap!
But I did a quick bit of cyphering and it shows CDPR made ALMOST 240mil on sales of the game in the first two weeks...thats not too shabby! They will probably sell another 2- 4 mil copies by the Christmas holiday. And by May of next year, they could easily be closing in on 10mil...HALF of what Skyrim has sold in 4 years!
To reach the lofty heights we imagine for the sales, they will probably have to fix the games bugs and shut THAT crowd up and then drop a nice expansion out to draw more attention. I bet ONLY then would we have a chance at them 'fixing' the inconsistencies we are discussing here...
Totally agree with you there. They could do so much with not so much work and resources
Yep, and that's one reason why I remain pretty hopeful that it will get fixed, because it doesn't seem like it would take a whole lot to reach 100% satisfaction with the Triss romance. It'd be different if they had left Triss out completely and had to rework everything.
And I think that alone should give us hope...someone in charge stopped the direction and decided(mayhaps too late...)to go in another direction! That means there is someone up there that wants this done and wants it done right! I think that should give us hope!
Come on REDS, please more Triss content! Even "Geralt himself" picks the beautiful redhead
http://youtu.be/GTsy43v2wIA @16:33 and 34:16!!
http://youtu.be/GTsy43v2wIA @16:33 and 34:16!!
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From what I have seen in my walkthroughs, I get the sense that early scripts intended to make the game more faithful to the books more so than any creative license the developers had in the first two games. It could also have been internal changes on creative decisions, a.k.a, writers changed their preferences, new writers added to development, more devs wanting to see more fidelity to the books.
Whatever happened (we can speculate all day), one thing is clear: Triss was not seen as a central character. They saw Triss leaving as a natural extension of Geralt's feelings for Yen returning. This is in terms of Geralt's love life, but look at her role in the main story as well...She is not written as a major player at all, even as a companion, i.e. close friend to Yen-Ciri-Geralt.
In effect, it also looks like they may not have had a romance option at all instead opting for a linear development in that department, i.e. Geralt stay with Yen. However, they underestimated how many players have not read the books and so would not feel the same dedication and devotion to Yen. In addition, they also underestimated the popularity of their own storytelling amongst their fans. Many people were introduced and became invested in their representation of Triss. It can be argued Triss is two different people in the books and games.
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That's pretty much awesome. He pretty much nails it right on the head why I like Triss. The whole relationship with Triss just seems lighter and more fun. I mean considering that Geralt kills monsters all the time, it just makes sense to me that he'd want a relationship that is lighter, more fun, and sweet. It's probably why I look forward to seeing Triss in game actually, because it's the necessary diversion from killing things and the other more serious quests.
He's also right that the Yen relationship is interesting but it's also darker and has more baggage. Both relationships have a lot of love, I just like something more lighthearted and fun personally.
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So many posts cant read them all so sorry if my thought (hope) has been mentioned. I am trying not to rant, though I am angry that this happened with my favorite character in the game after Geralt. Years back I believe I posted on the other super long Triss thread that I was worried something like this would happen. That is why I am not hopefully this will be fixed, it was brought up years ago.
I haven't finished the game, but I have been reading many of these posts to make sure I don't miss anything related to Triss. I can only imagine how pissed myself and others would be if they romanced both girls and ended with none, when the games have mostly allowed you to sleep around.
I saved Triss in W2. I am so anal (and forgetful after a couple years) that I kept a note file on my saves. My first though when I got to the warehouse and Triss said we broke up was, "shit, I screwed up my saves". I did a google search to ask why did Geralt and Triss break up and this is one of the links i got so now my next thought and hope was, "its a bug, has to be a bug"
Reading many of these posts, I am sure that is not the case due to all the numerous inconsistencies, but couldn't that explain it all? The game has a bug that defaults you to being with Yen for most of the responses and such?
Anyway, thanks for the support group and I pray they will fix these problems. It is really a let down for me in a otherwise fantastic game. But the most important part in these for me in the emotional connections with the characters and that is a disappointment..
On another note, I do wonder and suspect a fundamental change in the company when they went from full nudity to just top nudity. I don't feel its so "adult" anymore.
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I haven't finished the game, but I have been reading many of these posts to make sure I don't miss anything related to Triss. I can only imagine how pissed myself and others would be if they romanced both girls and ended with none, when the games have mostly allowed you to sleep around.
I saved Triss in W2. I am so anal (and forgetful after a couple years) that I kept a note file on my saves. My first though when I got to the warehouse and Triss said we broke up was, "shit, I screwed up my saves". I did a google search to ask why did Geralt and Triss break up and this is one of the links i got so now my next thought and hope was, "its a bug, has to be a bug"
Reading many of these posts, I am sure that is not the case due to all the numerous inconsistencies, but couldn't that explain it all? The game has a bug that defaults you to being with Yen for most of the responses and such?
Anyway, thanks for the support group and I pray they will fix these problems. It is really a let down for me in a otherwise fantastic game. But the most important part in these for me in the emotional connections with the characters and that is a disappointment..
On another note, I do wonder and suspect a fundamental change in the company when they went from full nudity to just top nudity. I don't feel its so "adult" anymore.
Calvanar
Of course. The game has the potential of making another million well before the holiday season because of word of mouth. Major reviewing outlets will sell games, but gamers suggesting the game to other gamers will also promote sales of the game all the more. It is around this time that first week buyers are finishing the game, and can share their opinions about it.
The sales they are making are a JACKPOT given their size and previous sales. They are not making what large developers (Bioware; Bethsheba) make on initial sales, but they are monumental given their history. The returns they have made far exceed projections. They were excited because of pre-order numbers that broke 1 million, but they didn't foresee 4 million copies in two weeks in the pre-release stage; maybe in 2-3 months, but 2 weeks...The public statements they have been making about how excited they are for reaching that milestone says enough.
I do think they need to continue selling strong and working on technical issues (which they are doing expediently) in order to garner the revenue needed to make significant changes or addition to the game, and I think this is possible. Of course, it is all contingent, but entirely in the cards and CDPR's silence shows that they are discussing options. This only further gives me hope. But, of course, hope is not certainty.
We will need to continue to our presence here and that is not too hard. This thread has exploded since I have been absent lol.
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Maybe that's it. They didnt realized how much people who only played the games grew attached to the character.
Still, I'm amazed they even remotely thought that was a good idea, to put Triss aside like that.
The other thing that is clear is the fact when they realized they f*cked up and wanted to correct the mistake, there was not enough time to do it
Indeed. I think that as long as there is a great demand and popularity towards the Triss content or any type of content for that matter, the devs are very likely to do something about it, if not for the fans then to at least make their game even better and get more sales.
And from what people are saying it would be in their best interests because they don't even have to devote too many resources towards fixing the issues on Triss' romance not being recognized. They will be gaining more than what they are losing as well as get even more respect and trust from the fans which in turn would net them greater future profits as well.
16 hours mo-cap sex scene. I wonder where did those 16 hours get into the game since it doesnt feel like there is much variety in the sex scenes...
Maybe some of it is dlcs stuff?
Agreed, there was 2 sex scenes with Yen, 1 with Triss, and 3 prostitutes I think? You're right though, it really doesn't seem like much. Would have preferred 1 less prostitute sex scene and one more Triss sex scene instead.
One can hope that there's a DLC with another Triss sex scene somewhere. Would be pretty cool if it was in one of the expansions. I figure if they ran out of time to put Triss content into the main game, that because of that maybe the extra content they ran short of time with got pushed off into an expansion. One can hope I guess.
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But Triss scene was just a default sex animation with a plus and with Yen was something very unique both scenes.
Why do you keep a note file on your saves? What for, if it's not a secret? 
If I'm not mistaken, Triss did not say, that they had broken up, because it was Geralt's decision to say whether they were not a couple anymore or Dijkstra was using them. Anyway, I might have missed something, because I've chosen the second variant. Twice. It only seemed, that Triss was afraid to hear those unpleasant words from Geralt, she kept the Rose, she kept her hope, right?
You see, my friend, people, who participate in this topic have already understood, that Triss-content was, perhaps, one of the last things, devs have worked on. Numerous bugs and inconsistencies also prove this opinion. I only know, that some of us are currently working on concrete suggestions for the developers, trying to sort the most acceptable from this topic out.
If I'm not mistaken, Triss did not say, that they had broken up, because it was Geralt's decision to say whether they were not a couple anymore or Dijkstra was using them. Anyway, I might have missed something, because I've chosen the second variant. Twice. It only seemed, that Triss was afraid to hear those unpleasant words from Geralt, she kept the Rose, she kept her hope, right?
You see, my friend, people, who participate in this topic have already understood, that Triss-content was, perhaps, one of the last things, devs have worked on. Numerous bugs and inconsistencies also prove this opinion. I only know, that some of us are currently working on concrete suggestions for the developers, trying to sort the most acceptable from this topic out.
This is how I've been playing this playthrough and it seems to be making sense so far!
1. White Orchard
2. Velen
3. Novigrad (Main quest line)
4. Skellige
5. Kaer Morhen and Ugly Baby
6. Return to Novigrad for Now or never and Cabaret
Wow it feels so much more complete! The fact that Triss shows up in the Brothers for Arms Quest is refreshing!!!
1. White Orchard
2. Velen
3. Novigrad (Main quest line)
4. Skellige
5. Kaer Morhen and Ugly Baby
6. Return to Novigrad for Now or never and Cabaret
Wow it feels so much more complete! The fact that Triss shows up in the Brothers for Arms Quest is refreshing!!!
This is exactly the chronology that the game hints in correct through the story log entries. I played in this order myself in my second walkthrough and it made the most sense sequentially.
I finally was able to get through to Triss' romance. Personally, I think that everything was done really well. The quests, the stuff leading up to it, the little thing with the light house and the "signal." All of that stuff was great. What's a shame is that Triss' romance and interactions are almost all completely attached to side quests. I feel like Triss' quest would have been a good lead into all of the more political stuff with the game, but that stuff just stays as a side quest it seems.
I haven't gone beyond the lighthouse, but I assume here is where everyone has the problems with the inconsistencies with romancing Triss. I think everything leading up to and including it was done fine.
I did skip the actual sex scene since every sex scene in the game is the exact same anyway.
I haven't gone beyond the lighthouse, but I assume here is where everyone has the problems with the inconsistencies with romancing Triss. I think everything leading up to and including it was done fine.
I did skip the actual sex scene since every sex scene in the game is the exact same anyway.
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