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The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

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The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

  • Dissatisfied from the lack of Triss content and want more

    Votes: 1,194 85.3%
  • I don't care at all

    Votes: 40 2.9%
  • There was enough of Triss in the game

    Votes: 128 9.1%
  • I don't like Triss

    Votes: 38 2.7%

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vcook10

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#3,841
Jun 11, 2015
whiplash27 said:
I did skip the actual sex scene since every sex scene in the game is the exact same anyway.
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Her sex scene isn't the same as the generic - Thigh rub, butt grab, roll around, woman face, fake orgasm - it's actually really cute and funny with the whole Hlakbr thing...
 
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CaptainZamzabam

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#3,842
Jun 11, 2015
whiplash27 said:
I haven't gone beyond the lighthouse, but I assume here is where everyone has the problems with the inconsistencies with romancing Triss. I think everything leading up to and including it was done fine.
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The problem is not the actual content of Triss related quests, which were great, it was what happens afterwards that people have a problem with. After the Now or Never quest the game only acknowledge the Geralt-Triss relationship a couple of times and then there isn't really any more quests that involve her or any real dialogues either(well besides the fountain scene).
 
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AVMC

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#3,843
Jun 11, 2015
So, in other threads I've made my thoughts clear about the story in Act 3 and how it pertains to main characters. The more I think about Triss, the more I agree with the posts here that she feels like a last minute addition as a romance option.

I know a lot of people don't have an issue with the "Three to Tango" quest line. I do. Majorly. Really frickin' big time issue methinks. :D

I feel like it's there simply because they needed a romance fail state, after adding a Triss romance in. I won't go into too much depth about what I'd like to have seen instead, but here's a few bits:

Opportunity to explain to both that you love them and with Ciri in danger, and finally finding Yen, you're very conflicted. I truly was, as a player trying to role play Geralt.

Scene that truly goes into simmering on top, raging inferno of a relationship between Triss and Yen when it comes to Geralt.

With "Three to Tango"... ugh, let me compose myself, I'm feeling sick thinking about it, lol... with "T.t.T." all I could think is:

Seriously?! Yen and Triss have just "worked things out" like that. The same Yen that basically told Triss to step the fuck back less she get burned? The same Triss that won't let Yen live down the fact that Geralt can forgive her for past misdeeds? Triss knows how big his heart truly is and I can't see her not forgiving him after the shit she's done. The Yen that actually loses her fucking composure when it comes to Triss and Geralt even being near each other?

I may be totally wrong here... but I thought the only thing Yen ever wanted Triss to know about Geralt was that he was HER man and she better get him out of her head. Worded much more strongly and with more hissing and verbal jousting.

So yeah. I feel a Triss romance wasn't originally planned, but wedged in later. So we get "Three to Tango", a totally out of character portrayal of both characters.
 
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Merc616

Senior user
#3,844
Jun 11, 2015
I stayed true to Triss in this game. One of my goals from the start was to find her. When I did find her in Novigrad I enjoyed all the quests involving her. The writing in this game is amazing. Then we parted ways there was a gap and I understand that and don't have a problem with it. But when I get to finally see her again there's barely any interaction until one more quest to find Philippa and that scene was great. But after that? Nothing. "Well?" is all I got. It's not about sex scenes either, there's all kinds of porn on the internet to watch. The main story was great but at the end it felt like there were some unresolved matters involving main characters including Triss. I hope the upcoming expansion in October addresses this because it seems like a chunk of the story is missing and it's unsatisfying.
 
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snakey_77

Senior user
#3,845
Jun 11, 2015
i bet RED guys come in here and read the posts under guests status …

one RED guy goes F.CK they figured out what we did ...

another RED guy goes we keep giving them dlc they will forget all about triss.. ohh shit triss and her alt look ohh f.ck well we will make that the last dlc!!

another is like now there really analysing what we did .. shit we better give them something soon!!

LMAO!! :)

its all in fun guys no rudeness intended to RED ..still want more triss content though!!! :)
 
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Calvanar

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#3,846
Jun 11, 2015
VanHalter said:
Why do you keep a note file on your saves?
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I keep a notepad file with a description of my play through's on these big RPGs, so when I play them again or the sequels I know what choices I made and so forth. I had actually upgraded computers a couple times since W2 so was very happy that I had the saves backed up. Not that it really seems to change much from what I've read here.

If you care, here is what my note says about the save:
Stayed true to Triss the whole game
Sided with Roche over Iroveth in Act 1
Let Roche kill Henslet in Act 2
Saved Tirss in Act 3
Let Sila die Act 3
Let Dragon live Act 3
Killed Letho in Act 3

I dont even remember most of those. I think once a EE edition is out, I will play all three again. And choose Triss again! #MoreTriss


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vcook10 said:
This is how I've been playing this playthrough and it seems to be making sense so far!

1. White Orchard
2. Velen
3. Novigrad (Main quest line)
4. Skellige
5. Kaer Morhen and Ugly Baby
6. Return to Novigrad for Now or never and Cabaret

Wow it feels so much more complete! The fact that Triss shows up in the Brothers for Arms Quest is refreshing!!!
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I've been so busy with work and kids that I have only done up to the party so far. I was planning on pushing through to now or never but maybe I should try this as well. Any reason not to do this?
 
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DaWitcher

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#3,847
Jun 11, 2015
I am doing skellige before Novagrad. Dunno how it will turn out. But Yen is pissing me off because her tone and her attitude sucks. It's like keira said she treats Geralt like a dog.

It's like Geralt is not an equal partner in their disfunctional relationship. The way she speaks to Geralt is so condesending it's driving me up the wall.
 
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FarrySquall

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#3,848
Jun 11, 2015
VanHalter said:
Why do you keep a note file on your saves? What for, if it's not a secret? :)
If I'm not mistaken, Triss did not say, that they had broken up, because it was Geralt's decision to say whether they were not a couple anymore or Dijkstra was using them. Anyway, I might have missed something, because I've chosen the second variant. Twice. It only seemed, that Triss was afraid to hear those unpleasant words from Geralt, she kept the Rose, she kept her hope, right?
You see, my friend, people, who participate in this topic have already understood, that Triss-content was, perhaps, one of the last things, devs have worked on. Numerous bugs and inconsistencies also prove this opinion. I only know, that some of us are currently working on concrete suggestions for the developers, trying to sort the most acceptable from this topic out.
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She keep the rose as a warning. It withered, that mean Geralt don't love her anymore
 
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Redemyr

Rookie
#3,849
Jun 11, 2015
If any of you guys has any spare time I recommend you give the other long thread about Triss/Yen a read.

It has some very interesting discussions on them, I've only read about 20 pages or so in the middle parts.

It's funny because even though the title is called the Yennefer/Triss choice, it's really about Yen fans pushing her as the ONLY option and Triss fans wanting for it to be a choice left for the player.

The first group is advocating for a game, which prides itself in giving the player choices, to take the most important one AWAY.

In the interest of not making any personal attacks, because to be honest, it's not the point of this thread or the forums in general, I'm just going to leave it open for people to draw their own conclusions as to the personalities that would usually be drawn to either type of woman.

In the end though, I want to say that I'm glad that CDPR chose not to follow this route and gave us, the players, an option about it. Yes, it might have been late in the development cycle and hence all the issues we have identified here. Better late than never as they say. So I want to thank you for giving us this excellent game, blame you for my lack of sleep and thank you again for caring about your fans.
 
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FarrySquall

Rookie
#3,850
Jun 11, 2015
Redemyr said:
If any of you guys has any spare time I recommend you give the other long thread about Triss/Yen a read.
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hmm can you give me a link ?

there are 3 main topic about Yen/Triss choice and i didn't see any around 40 page :(

http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/40021-Triss-or-Yen?p=1771260#post1771260 This one ?
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/21184-The-Yennefer-Triss-choice-in-TW3?p=1771200#post1771200 oh god 300 page :)
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/42169-Is-it-just-me-or-is-Yen-Spoilers?p=1770325#post1770325 or this ?
 
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Gilthoniel

Gilthoniel

Rookie
#3,851
Jun 11, 2015
Redemyr said:
It's funny because even though the title is called the Yennefer/Triss choice, it's really about Yen fans pushing her as the ONLY option and Triss fans wanting for it to be a choice left for the player.

The first group is advocating for a game, which prides itself in giving the player choices, to take the most important one AWAY.
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Not all fans are the same. It is about people - praising one group and bashing another won't really help at all.
 
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vcook10

Rookie
#3,852
Jun 11, 2015
Calvanar said:
I've been so busy with work and kids that I have only done up to the party so far. I was planning on pushing through to now or never but maybe I should try this as well. Any reason not to do this?
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I just finished The Battle of Kaer Morhen and it's been really good so far. Still disappointed at the lack of communication between Geralt and both women though. Everyone is right when they say it becomes a Ciri game after this. Don't get me wrong I LOVE Ciri I just wish you could communicate a bit better with them. They're the only 2 characters you can't talk to at KM before or after the fight.
 
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CaptainZamzabam

Rookie
#3,853
Jun 11, 2015
vcook10 said:
Everyone is right when they say it becomes a Ciri game after this.
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I agree with this. Ciri is great, I love the character, I know the game needs a focus on Geralt and Ciri's father/daughter relationship, but I wish the later game focused more on Geralt and his relationships(friends and romantic choice.) I'm not saying take away any of the Ciri related parts, just supplement it with some more Geralt focused quests/dialogues/interactions. This is his last game as lead after all. We need some good closure with him and his friends.
 
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hawkeyesforever

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#3,854
Jun 11, 2015
Gilthoniel said:
Not all fans are the same. It is about people - praising one group and bashing another won't really help at all.
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Agreed, nothing beneficial comes out of it. I mean sure, I totally prefer Triss, but I still understand that people like Yen too, and I think everyone can agree that after the Battle of Kaer Morhen, more content is needed from both especially if you chose one of them as your lover.

It also doesn't help CDPR to have people praising one group and bashing another when they go through and look for suggestions in the threads.
 
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anlauf

Rookie
#3,855
Jun 11, 2015
In fact, there's no point in debating who should Geralt choose, or who's better for him, game or bookwise.
In the game we should be able to choose based on meaningful content, both, none, one or the other, and in the books, Sapkowski has the command and can even choose to take both out of picture and make Geralt finish his days with.... cof cof. Keira.

The focus should be more Triss content in particular and more both in general, as I bet everyone here will do a playthrough with both at least one time.
 
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enk1

Rookie
#3,856
Jun 11, 2015
REDs add more Triss
To make masterpiece.
:)

4k is coming and still no response.
 
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Sooxzay

Senior user
#3,857
Jun 11, 2015
enk1 said:
REDs add more Triss
To make masterpiece.
:)

4k is coming and still no response.
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We have to share this. Facebook Twitter friends and others.

Triss is an important character!
 
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msanx

Rookie
#3,858
Jun 11, 2015
I haven't been here for two days and bang there is like 60 pages i have missed, oh well it's my own fault :), also on a side note, this game has sold 4 million copies, so yep very good chance of more dlc.
 
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xE1NSTE1Nx2049

Rookie
#3,859
Jun 11, 2015
Riddlin said:
I think that is the question that both ways you respond, Triss responds with the exact same response...it would be kewl if at that point, IF you have done the Last Wish, you could tell Triss...and she not say, "Well?"
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I have watched three different videos in which Geralt says all three possible choices for that part. She always, always responds with a very despondent, somber "Never mind. I got my answer..." I am not a fan of that line. I'm not sure what she was expecting him to say? I highly, highly doubt that doing the Last Wish before this will change the dialogue. Think about it, most all of us did Novigrad first and then Skellige and there really isn't a chance to tell Yen or anybody about Triss. It seems quite unlikely that Novigrad would get this same kind of reactivity. :X

Noideausername said:
You really think so? After the relevance Triss had on Witcher 1 and mostly Witcher 2, that the writers would just give up on her?
I kinda doubt it or i kinda don't want to believe in that either.
Anyway if that's so then i'd be extremely disappointed.
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I don't know why they did it. We can really only speculate at this point. It's a scary thought that she was only a placeholder, a side chick so to say, for the first two games. It could explain some of the inconsistencies. But Yen had some issues in the final act too. :X I am under the impression that they just didn't think the romance was as critical as we hold it to be. That it should be central to a story's final act.
 
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WhiteHot

Rookie
#3,860
Jun 11, 2015
CaptainZamzabam said:
I agree with this. Ciri is great, I love the character, I know the game needs a focus on Geralt and Ciri's father/daughter relationship, but I wish the later game focused more on Geralt and his relationships(friends and romantic choice.) I'm not saying take away any of the Ciri related parts, just supplement it with some more Geralt focused quests/dialogues/interactions. This is his last game as lead after all. We need some good closure with him and his friends.
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I feel the same way, if this is really Geralts last game ( I hope it isn't ) then CDPR did a poor job ending it in my opinion. The ending felt rushed and how the game reloads to an earlier save when you finish it leaves a lot to be desired and removes any chance for the player to get some closure with the characters.
 
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