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I think we shouldn't literally hate Yen for her personality. I think there will be reasons for that. At least in the books.
Sometimes it feels like she acts without thinking while Triss always has a plan.
But for me I just dont like how they introduced her. Yen's sarcasm should be more in a way that you wont take everything she says serious. Her sarcasm is a bit heavy in my eyes. Some of her dialogues sounds too serious when it actually should be positive sarcasm.
While Triss has this "sarcasm" with a smile. So you know what she actually wants to tell you.
I agree, some people on the forum act like romance is just pure fanservice, but that is most obviously not the case, romance is what connects not just us to our character but for our character to connect with other characters. I mean CDPR claimed that sex is the quickest and most effective way to show how two characters feel about each other, and think about in the W2, when Triss was kidnapped, i don't think as many people would have gone to save her if she wasn't a love interest. I mean if Yen wasn't a love interest in this game, then she would just be a female character with the cliche tough and doesn't take shit attitude. Relationship building is a vital part of a character who already has such a rich backstory and it is a way for us to see how he cares for others (especially in regards to Triss and Yen). CDPR really needed to spend a bit more time in the relationship department.
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All the more reason for them to be togetherAnd Geralt would do anything for Triss too
Yeah, there is. Her true wish is to have a child, so she willing do anything for it slay a Djinn or kill a golden dragon. And in books her sarcasm is also so heavy like in game. Wen in her life comes Ciri she becomes a bit soft. But I still didn't liked her in books as a LI for Geralt. She is gorgeous, hot and very interesting person, but imo she is not for Geralt.
On the contrary my fellow Triss fan I really don't hate Yen, like you I don't think she was introduce properly it is very possible that if the playing field in the game was even I wouldn't mind giving Yen a try.
With that said, we all agree that the game treats your decision like a mistake when you pick Triss. Hence, my negative feelings towards Yen is even stronger because it looks like the deck was stacked in her favor in W3.
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It may be more to her being seen as 'competition' to Triss, i like her personality but more as a friend because i just don't understand how Geralt can deal with it, i mean eventually you would tire of it whether Yen is like that or if it just for show. I just don't believe in opposite's attracting even if the game suggests that is the case. Though you're right, hating Yen doesn't feel right because you could say her personality is unique and it adds to making her character her believable.
Now when you google search Triss, this page appears on the second page and it's going up day by day I can see it on the first page soon and that's pretty big:cheers:
Today I found myself can't go further into the story after the KM battle. I guess the game really took something precious away and needs to put it back for me to continue. I'm not like a faithful type to Triss. I mean The Geralt I played got it on with plenty of women but they are just a part of the game for me to explore.(except the romance option cause I avoid it all together like when I told "I love you to Triss" I didn't lay a finger on Yen) I try to explore everything the game offers me as possible, like I did all the fist fights, tried to collect all the gwent cards(though I failed), did all the horce races, tried to collect everything on the map etc so sex is like those kind of things in the game for me and I rather found myself feeling the same when it came to Yen. I don't feel a thing or connected to her or her relationship with Geralt I really forced myself but it just feels empty, dull. I don't like her voice, her clothing, her attitude(and even though my favourite color is black, her alternate look is even worse than the original one) When it comes to preferences redheads and blackhairs kind of similar to me I have a thing for both so Yen's face and hair sometimes seem prettier than Triss but god Triss' facial expressions are just amazing I can't stop looking at her doing all those adorable faces, sometimes sad looks etc. I think CDPR did such an amazing job with her motion capture besides her voice is so hot which makes her kind of irresistible. Triss feels like fire and water at the same time while Yen feels like uncontrollable storm surrounded by light winds that are very rare.
I just expect some statement from CDPR by now. It's frustrating to wait. So we'd know whether to expect some fix or move on.
Today I found myself can't go further into the story after the KM battle. I guess the game really took something precious away and needs to put it back for me to continue. I'm not like a faithful type to Triss. I mean The Geralt I played got it on with plenty of women but they are just a part of the game for me to explore.(except the romance option cause I avoid it all together like when I told "I love you to Triss" I didn't lay a finger on Yen) I try to explore everything the game offers me as possible, like I did all the fist fights, tried to collect all the gwent cards(though I failed), did all the horce races, tried to collect everything on the map etc so sex is like those kind of things in the game for me and I rather found myself feeling the same when it came to Yen. I don't feel a thing or connected to her or her relationship with Geralt I really forced myself but it just feels empty, dull. I don't like her voice, her clothing, her attitude(and even though my favourite color is black, her alternate look is even worse than the original one) When it comes to preferences redheads and blackhairs kind of similar to me I have a thing for both so Yen's face and hair sometimes seem prettier than Triss but god Triss' facial expressions are just amazing I can't stop looking at her doing all those adorable faces, sometimes sad looks etc. I think CDPR did such an amazing job with her motion capture besides her voice is so hot which makes her kind of irresistible. Triss feels like fire and water at the same time while Yen feels like uncontrollable storm surrounded by light winds that are very rare.
I just expect some statement from CDPR by now. It's frustrating to wait. So we'd know whether to expect some fix or move on.
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That particulary annoys me. Yen got specific scenes, Triss got some re used assets from standard sex scenes.
That is just lazy in my opinion
Would love a little confrontation between Triss and Yen to feel the impact of your choice.
Found a picture that pretty much fits my imagination of the scene. Of course Triss wouldn't start with rubbin it in but once Yen gets bitchy about it Triss might counter with her adventures with Geralt
It's not my picture, so credits to the artist but I thought it was pretty sweet.
Found a picture that pretty much fits my imagination of the scene. Of course Triss wouldn't start with rubbin it in but once Yen gets bitchy about it Triss might counter with her adventures with Geralt
It's not my picture, so credits to the artist but I thought it was pretty sweet.
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That's the first thing that bugged me so much. After I did the romance scene with Triss, after a while I went to one of those places and picked a girl then realized the exact similarities which almost disgusted me.
Yeah maybe CDPR were worried about their expanding fanbase and though they had to cut back a bit on the sex scenes, even if the Triss scene was reused for a bit, the Yen scenes weren't that great either, i think they only last a few seconds. It is more to do with the dialogue before and after the scene that is 'unique', plus i could still argue that the scenes with Triss (the party, the fountain scenes etc) were handled better than Yen's scenes but that's just my view.
I don't care much about the sex scene, just more flirt conversation between them is good enough, just like the one at the fountain
Cerys comments on it as well when you do the possession quest in Skellige. Something along the lines of you being whipped. Even if you tell her you're not she still brings it up. At first I thought she was jealous but I think people in Skellige really don't like Yen.. I guess because she doesn't follow their culture and what not. There are few people who even acknowledge Triss. There's Sigi, and Priscilla makes a quick comment on it after her song saying something like " or should I say sorceresses" . And the Witcher boys... Is there anyone else? It makes romancing her really hard if you don't wait until after Ugly Baby...
I agree with you, both sex scenes were pretty undertoned. It doesnt feel they put same effort like into the W2 sex scene
Well wait for the expansions. I guess there will be more to come.
I dont think that 2 second sexytime is all we saw.
But also this game is not a porn. I think it should be a longer intense scene with feelings like at the fountain.
We are talking about the sex scenes because the "feelings" scenes were lacking, obviously. If that stuff would have been done properly, no one would have gave a damn about the sex scenesWell wait for the expansions. I guess there will be more to come.
I dont think that 2 second sexytime is all we saw.
But also this game is not a porn. I think it should be a longer intense scene with feelings like at the fountain.
Also this is an open world RPG and when a rpg game is open world that generally means (not always but still the majority) that the story and character interactions are not as prevalent while a more linear rpg tends to focus more on story and characters. That may be the reason people prefer the story of the W2 to this game, but prefer the gameplay to the Witcher 2. I mean in the Witcher 2, Triss was around for most of the time and even when she wasn't she was still a major part of the storyline, while in this game, she only gets a few mentions in the first 20-30 hours (assuming you did the Velen quests before Novigrad), then by the end, she didn't get much more content than in the Witcher 2 despite this game being 5-6 times longer (possibly more), so for a company like CDPR with only a few hundred employees at most, creating a story driven open world rpg was always going to be a difficult challenge and some things were always going to suffer like character interaction. Still this is what dlc was made for!.
The trick is to connect the story with the open World. And CD is the first Company for me that handeled it very well so far.
But still you are right by saying that linear RPGs are more intense when it comes to story telling.
I really hope for more quests like the bloody baron with old friends like mentioned before.
Also including your romance choice ofc.
I finally made it back to Novagrad and saw Triss for the first time in my second play through. I have to say that face is so adorable I can not say no to her.
The second time around it was easier to say the magic is gone to Yen. Throughout my second play through I give her a fair shot to win me over but her character personality sucks. She is always talking down to Geralt and it pissed me off.
Tomorrow I will be spending some quality time with that special red hair. Yall know who I'm referring to.
Sry Yen fans but she could not win me over in the book or the game.
The second time around it was easier to say the magic is gone to Yen. Throughout my second play through I give her a fair shot to win me over but her character personality sucks. She is always talking down to Geralt and it pissed me off.
Tomorrow I will be spending some quality time with that special red hair. Yall know who I'm referring to.
Sry Yen fans but she could not win me over in the book or the game.
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