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The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

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The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

  • Dissatisfied from the lack of Triss content and want more

    Votes: 1,194 85.3%
  • I don't care at all

    Votes: 40 2.9%
  • There was enough of Triss in the game

    Votes: 128 9.1%
  • I don't like Triss

    Votes: 38 2.7%

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msanx

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#5,081
Jun 19, 2015
zbum said:
So, I'm at the end of my second playthrough. And my god, the Act 3...
I knew it. But it is not less painful.

There are a lot of issues with the Triss Romance, but as a lot of you said, some can be explained (the whole thing at Kaer Morhen, because she has to be recruted during the Brothers in Arms quest and so on). Even when we are all in Novigrad (with Avalach, Yennefer...) you can manage to see Triss a bit more by doing the statues quests, giving her back her earrings.

But as soon as everyone leave Novigrad and we arrive in Skellige, it's a disaster. She disappears completely until the end ! And why seriously ? How this can be explain ?

Yennefer, Geralt and Ciri have a wonderful moment together when you visit Avalach laboratory, so why Triss doesn't have a moment with Geralt like this. There are a lot of opportunities without force her to be in the Geralt/Yen/Ciri triangle ! She could go with Geralt and Phillipa to retrieve the sun stone. She could help Geralt to reach the Emperor's boat. But no. Nothing. She stays on this f.... boat and keeps saying "Well ?". Seriously, that's a joke.

Sorry, I knew it when I played, but it still pisses me off. So much.
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Exactly, why didn't Triss go with Geralt and Phillipa to get the sunstone, imagine the banter they could of had. I think everyone here could write 10 pages worth of stuff that could of been included in the game but now goes down as missed oppurtunities. Novigrad wasn't too bad because she actually had a quest even though it was short, but once you get to Skellige, you might as well pretend she isn't there. She doesn't even really interact with Ciri even though they are meant to be like close sisters, for Ciri it is all Geralt and Yen in her life and even that scene on the boat where Geralt and Ciri are playing together, the screen turns to Yen who is smiling - that could of been Triss if she was the love interest, but nope that whole storyline revolves almost exclusively around Geralt, Yen and Ciri, those 3 plus Avallach and the wild hunt are the only things that keep moving the plot forward.
 
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SoleilMeurtri

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#5,082
Jun 19, 2015
zbum said:
In the empress ending, Triss is with you at the inn with Zoltant and Dandelion, so she's not in Kovir. But if you choose the right dialogue option with Ciri about you leaving, she answers : "Could you at least give Triss some time to pack ?" so their departure for Kovir is implied.
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But the Triss romance is still...
 
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msanx

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#5,083
Jun 19, 2015
zbum said:
In the empress ending, Triss is with you at the inn with Zoltant and Dandelion, so she's not in Kovir. But if you choose the right dialogue option with Ciri about you leaving, she answers : "Could you at least give Triss some time to pack ?" so their departure for Kovir is implied.
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Ahh ok my bad, i must of missed that.
 
warbaby2

warbaby2

Forum veteran
#5,084
Jun 19, 2015
zbum said:
In the empress ending, Triss is with you at the inn with Zoltant and Dandelion, so she's not in Kovir. But if you choose the right dialogue option with Ciri about you leaving, she answers : "Could you at least give Triss some time to pack ?" so their departure for Kovir is implied.
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True, in fact, for Geralt to even "end up" in Kaer Morhen post-game, only works with the Witcheres ending and Yen as the romance option...
 
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SoleilMeurtri

Rookie
#5,085
Jun 19, 2015
msanx said:
You know looking at the 2 'good' endings. The one with the empress ending, Geralt says something like "find me" and Ciri replies with "You can't stay at Kaer Morhen forever" - so yeah nothing about Kovir. In fact i don't think i ever saw Geralt even mention Kovir to anyone except Triss, even Phillipa doesn't acknowledge it, kind of hard to catch up with his friends and allies if they all think he is at Kaer Morhen, of couse i guess we have to assume he told everyone off screen about Kovir. In the witcher ending, Triss isn't in it, but Emyrs says "and you?" to which Geralt replies with "someone is waiting for me" and Emyrs responds with "Triss Merigold, fear nor i have no intention of having her pursued" - that is probably more consistent that what Geralt says to Ciri in the empress ending, at least it kind of acknowledges that Triss is waiting in Kovir. Still all this (plus the ending slide) is all that is left about Triss after she says "good luck".

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I miss Iorveth and Saskia!
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Not since i've seen the gay image of him and Geralt
 
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zbum

Senior user
#5,086
Jun 19, 2015
SoleilMeurtri said:
But the Triss romance is still...
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Yeah, I know...
 
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xE1NSTE1Nx2049

Rookie
#5,087
Jun 19, 2015
zbum said:
In the empress ending, Triss is with you at the inn with Zoltant and Dandelion, so she's not in Kovir. But if you choose the right dialogue option with Ciri about you leaving, she answers : "Could you at least give Triss some time to pack ?" so their departure for Kovir is implied.
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I got that dialogue and at first I thought it implied the Kovir trip but then I was thinking that it doesn't necessarily point at this. They talk about how they have been in White Orchard for a few months now. Ciri asks Geralt when he is leaving and he says "Right now" and then she asks if he will at least give Triss time to pack. Maybe they're talking about just leaving White Orchard in general? Going onto the next big thing. Maybe it's about Kovir though. That'd be nice. My question is though, if Triss has a job, an obligation to the king, what are they doing spending a couple of months in White Orchard?

Ugh, for every three things this game does well it does one thing terribly. Maybe that's an exaggeration but that's what it feels like sometimes. The things that they messed up are messed up so badly that it really, really hurts. And it stands next to the rest of it that's so well done that it makes it all the worse. I both love and hate this damn game. :X
 
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msanx

Rookie
#5,088
Jun 19, 2015
xE1NSTE1Nx2049 said:
Ugh, for every three things this game does well it does one thing terribly. Maybe that's an exaggeration but that's what it feels like sometimes. The things that they messed up are messed up so badly that it really, really hurts. And it stands next to the rest of it that's so well done that it makes it all the worse. I both love and hate this damn game.
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I agree, i am starting to have a love/hate relationship with the game because of how well some scenes are done, and yet it is never balanced or paced out with the other things that happen in the game.
 
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DaWitcher

Rookie
#5,089
Jun 19, 2015
I got it to work so I posted this to REDDORIGEN.

Thanks for jumping into our forum earlier REDDorigen we appreciate the support. I know you can't really promise anything but, as a fellow Triss fan I am here to invite you back into our forum. You are alway welcome to the Team Triss club, honorary membership for you. If you have some time please jump in and provide some support to team Triss.


More Triss, More Triss, More Triss Geralt Merigold
 
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xE1NSTE1Nx2049

Rookie
#5,090
Jun 19, 2015
evrthmlgpro360 said:
Friends, I have a question. In TW2 I chose to save Triss. Triss has said it will never forget what I have done for her. But TW3 almost no mention there. Triss did not even remember.
So it should be?
Already I passed the game, but nothing about the salvation Triss heard.
Thanks in advance.
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Sadly, she seems to have forgotten about this. Maybe she caught some of Geralt's amnesia. XP The overall import of choices from the W2 was handled poorly. The only big differences seem to be if you killed the La Valette kid (can't remember his name at present :X ). If you let him die the baroness won't even talk to you but if he lives she's the one you talk to during Dandelion's quest. I think she's also at the masquerade party. I can't remember if she's there regardless - I only noticed her during this last playthrough when he lived. That one and Letho obviously. :eek: Saving Triss was a huge part of the second one and it isn't even really mentioned in this one.
 
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msanx

Rookie
#5,091
Jun 19, 2015
DaWitcher said:
I got it to work so I posted this to REDDORIGEN.

Thanks for jumping into our forum earlier REDDorigen we appreciate the support. I know you can't really promise anything but, as a fellow Triss fan I am here to invite you back into our forum. You are alway welcome to the Team Triss club, honorary membership for you. If you have some time please jump in and provide some support to team Triss.


More Triss, More Triss, More Triss Geralt Merigold
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Awesome, great work :)
 
Riddlin

Riddlin

Senior user
#5,092
Jun 19, 2015
I am what some might call a fairly religious man so, please accept this with that in mind...

We are just a month into this marathon...I do Pray that everyone of you in this Triss Army will continue to STAY FIRM and keep this thread going! I've had my moments of despair, especially earlier today but, we have to stay resolute!!! We need to make this a mini-forum family and be our brother's keeper in this.

I wish someone from CDPR would reach out to someone in this thread, make the effort to understand what the real issues are. I know from reading and following this as it has grown and keeping up with it daily, some on here are more than capable of summarizing and expressing out main points. It will just require a RED to make the first move!

And I just want to say, I am in on this for the long haul! If we have to wait three or four or even six months to get an answer...I hope you all don't get tired of my rabble-rousing (or my moments of depression). I think if the REDS don't tell us "NO" outright then we can only assume they mean "maybe"...lets just keep it going and as xE1NSTE1Nx2049 has said many times, "don't worry if a suggestion is difficult or impossible...you keep posting them. It's the REDS job to figure out if it can be done!" We have to keep the thread going with positive energy and constructive ideas.

Keep starving the trolls and embracing the members of Team Yen...we are all in this together! Go Team! :)
 
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warbaby2

warbaby2

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#5,093
Jun 19, 2015
Amen reverent! ;)
 
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xE1NSTE1Nx2049

Rookie
#5,094
Jun 19, 2015
Riddlin said:
What I am saying is, it could be a 100 hour quest line with Triss by your side the entire way and the moment its done you go to Skelliga and you get "Well?"...for that it made zero difference to the overall story or the inconsistencies in it. Its putting lipstick on a pig...sure, its nice to have but in the end, its still just a pig.

But, more importantly...sure I would buy it...more is better than none BUT, it is not a fix. Its a band aid on a broken arm...
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Like I said, there are things that could be fixed and would provide more satisfaction to us, but fixing/adding anything at this point would be great. Sure, the band-aid isn't going to help heal your arm but it might make you feel a little bit better in your head. Especially if it has a cartoon character or something on it. :p

Riddlin said:
BTW, when doing the quests like you described way back...what quest does one leave off and go get Uma? Does it pop back into the que when its time? I am guessing I want to finish the series with Triss when you get the Brothers quest line, right?
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It varies. I did a lot of Skellige and then when Yen gave me the Last Wish quest I went back to Novigrad to do the first quest (Pyres). After that I went straight back to Skellige and finished it up, main quests, side quests, Witcher contracts. Went to Novigrad and did everything possible except for A Matter of Life and Death. Went to Kaer Morhen and got Uma (didn't lift the curse though - I caved & couldn't stand waiting any longer to see Triss). Went back and did Triss's stuff and then continued on. I think it advisable to wait until Brothers in Arms though. That's probably what I will do next time. Bringing Triss to Kaer Morhen is one of the objectives after all. :X The whole ordering of the quests is strange. I wish we didn't have to alter it to fit our personal narrative but c'est la vie.
 
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msanx

Rookie
#5,095
Jun 19, 2015
Riddlin said:
I am what some might call a fairly religious man so, please accept this with that in mind...

We are just a month into this marathon...I do Pray that everyone of you in this Triss Army will continue to STAY FIRM and keep this thread going! I've had my moments of despair, especially earlier today but, we have to stay resolute!!! We need to make this a mini-forum family and be our brother's keeper in this.

I wish someone from CDPR would reach out to someone in this thread, make the effort to understand what the real issues are. I know from reading and following this as it has grown and keeping up with it daily, some on here are more than capable of summarizing and expressing out main points. It will just require a RED to make the first move!

And I just want to say, I am in on this for the long haul! If we have to wait three or four or even six months to get an answer...I hope you all don't get tired of my rabble-rousing (or my moments of depression). I think if the REDS don't tell us "NO" outright then we can only assume they mean "maybe"...lets just keep it going and as xE1NSTE1Nx2049 has said many times, "don't worry if a suggestion is difficult or impossible...you keep posting them. It's the REDS job to figure out if it can be done!" We have to keep the thread going with positive energy and constructive ideas.

Keep starving the trolls and embracing the members of Team Yen...we are all in this together! Go Team! :)
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Exactly, great motivation. This thread has reached 510 pages and everone here has contributed and has stayed on topic despite all the 5100 posts, this thread has become like you said a marathon with great ideas. I have no idea how big this thread will get, but what matters is to keep it going with positive ideas and suggestions and hopefully members of CDPR see the great suggestions on here whether it is in the near future or even next year, this thread won't be ending any time soon :).
 
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CostinRaz

Banned
#5,096
Jun 19, 2015
I did like how Triss was handled in Novigrad...but it was just so hugely disconnected from everything else.
 
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DaWitcher

Rookie
#5,097
Jun 19, 2015
Riddlin said:
I am what some might call a fairly religious man so, please accept this with that in mind...

We are just a month into this marathon...I do Pray that everyone of you in this Triss Army will continue to STAY FIRM and keep this thread going! I've had my moments of despair, especially earlier today but, we have to stay resolute!!! We need to make this a mini-forum family and be our brother's keeper in this.

I wish someone from CDPR would reach out to someone in this thread, make the effort to understand what the real issues are. I know from reading and following this as it has grown and keeping up with it daily, some on here are more than capable of summarizing and expressing out main points. It will just require a RED to make the first move!

And I just want to say, I am in on this for the long haul! If we have to wait three or four or even six months to get an answer...I hope you all don't get tired of my rabble-rousing (or my moments of depression). I think if the REDS don't tell us "NO" outright then we can only assume they mean "maybe"...lets just keep it going and as xE1NSTE1Nx2049 has said many times, "don't worry if a suggestion is difficult or impossible...you keep posting them. It's the REDS job to figure out if it can be done!" We have to keep the thread going with positive energy and constructive ideas.

Keep starving the trolls and embracing the members of Team Yen...we are all in this together! Go Team! :)
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Same here team Triss. I am in it for the long haul.


I message the dev REDDorigen, hopefully he drop in and chat with us a little. I also awarded him lifetime membership in Team Triss club. Lol
 
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luc0s

Rookie
#5,098
Jun 19, 2015
Redemyr said:
Triss as a character is popular mainly because of how CDPR portrayed her and,perhaps to a lesser degree, how the books' author did.
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Can't argue with that. But that wasn't my point. My point is that I think the reason the Triss thread has over 500 pages while the Yen thread barely has 50 pages is because the Triss fans (and even a lot of Yen fans) are unhappy with how Triss's arc was handled in TW3, which gives people a bigger motivation to make an account and come to the forums to post about it.

In contrary, Yen's arc in TW3 was just fine for the most part so there really isn't much to talk about regarding Yennefer nor is there much motivation for the Yen fans to make an account and start posting on the forums.
 
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xE1NSTE1Nx2049

Rookie
#5,099
Jun 19, 2015
Sooxzay said:
I dont understand that to be honest.

The Rose of rememberance says if you give it to someone you love the rose will bloom forever. I actually dont think that just because Geralt is stuck between choosing rather Yen or Triss the rose will wither.

It is a gift we as player decided to give Triss in TW2. So for us that means we truly love Triss and want her on Geralts side.

So just because some have chosen Triss in TW2 with the rose and could change their mind in TW3 and go for Yen the whole legend is just meaningless?

In my eyes there should have been an import with consequences regarding Triss and the rose since she is an important person to Geralt. I dont want to say something like "If you dont want to be with Triss from the beginning in TW3 just dont use your import where you romanced Triss"

What I want to say is that IF we use our import where we romanced Triss and gave her the rose we should have had more dialogue options and conversations with Triss regarding our romance/love story with her. And especially regarding the rose which actually cant wither.
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My thoughts are kind of wandering with this one so see if you can stick with me. :X

If players liked Triss in W2 and they change their mind in W3 and decide they want Yen, shouldn't that have some fallout? Like import your save either way and if you gave her the Rose in the second one and then crushed her heart in the third one, shouldn't the player have to sit through a scene where Triss is upset and asks him if everything they went through in the second one was all for naught? It would be a scene that makes the player feel the consequence of their choice. Like how some of us feel bad for rejecting Yen. There should be a fairly heavy scene that tugs at the heart strings.

I'm actually okay with the Rose being withered in the beginning - maybe it needs to be constantly around the love that made it bloom in the first place. The legend is pretty vague after all. What's not okay with me is the fact that nothing really ever comes of it. Showing it to her results in almost nothing. It doesn't come back to life. There isn't a chance to get a new one. There really ins't anything. I like that they did include it though - they got about halfway to something good but simply didn't follow through. It is sadly another missed opportunity. :X
 
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warbaby2

warbaby2

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#5,100
Jun 19, 2015
xE1NSTE1Nx2049 said:
If players liked Triss in W2 and they change their mind in W3 and decide they want Yen, shouldn't that have some fallout? Like import your save either way and if you gave her the Rose in the second one and then crushed her heart in the third one, shouldn't the player have to sit through a scene where Triss is upset and asks him if everything they went through in the second one was all for naught? It would be a scene that makes the player feel the consequence of their choice. Like how some of us feel bad for rejecting Yen. There should be a fairly heavy scene that tugs at the heart strings.
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Well, it is implied that Geralt and Triss did break up in the time since TW2... or that there wasn't even a real relationship between them in the first place. I agree, though, there should be more interaction between them regardless whether or not you choose to reconnect with Triss or not. Geralt and Yen get the chance to reminis about their past relationship, afterall.
 
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