I pre-purchased the expansion pass without hesitation on the first day it was made available. I do love Triss but that character is not the sole or main reason why I play the Witcher series and support CD Projekt RED who I believe is the most gamer-friendly AAA developer. It would be disappointing not to have Triss in the 2 expansions but they will feature characters that are "dearly missed" and I wouldn't want to miss out on seeing some of them again and going on some final adventures with Geralt before his curtain call.
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Not a boycott or a riot, just disappointment at the situation, which means most here probably won't be purchasing the expansions unless it gets good reviewsBoycott of expansions because of Triss' content - that sounds beyond ridiculous, sorry
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lol yeah probably
I love the enchanting word since DA: O it has a special place in my mind You know that Sandal guy right? Might be, but I don't think it's that simple if no changes made and a huge decision meant to happen between Yen and Triss from the get go that means 4 years since 2011 and no one noticed the inconsistencies? Really inlikely to me.
Buying everything in sight is ridiculous too, I guess. People disappointed in the certain aspects of the game, and they worry this disappointment can proceed into expansions.
I agree, the expansions i expect to be really good. In an interview CDPR said they spent as much time and effort into the side quests as the main quests so even if the expansions aren't connected to the main story, it should still hold up on it's own. The only concern i have is that they were working on the expansions before the game released and therefore before the complaints about the Triss content came about, so if Triss wasn't originally planned to be in the expansions and they do decide to add her, it would be something late in development although it would still be better than if she wasn't in it at all. They haven't hinted at any more expansions and they have suggested that the all dlc will be free (read it in an article from a few months back, although they may change their minds), so yeah i do reckon they will get around to adding something big or small eventually.
I agree with thesis, but can't see how it applies here: both romances don't play a big role in the main story (alas), and the game overall is not a date simulator, so disappointment in that aspect doesn't sounds like an important reason for that from my personal POV
Yeah, I read some chunks of that thread. It has some good discussions on it, but then there're those "hardcore" book fans who advocated strongly for no option in that regard.
In any case, I do would like some explanation from the devs as to why this happened. Even if it is indeed, "yeah we never planned on including her in the first place and had to wing it towards the end." It's not like they owe us anything, but I believe it is good company policy to admit if they mess up. And act on it.
Personally I've bought the game+expansions so my wallet is no longer a voting tool for me. After the marvel that was W2 I trusted them implicitly. Now, not so much. There was another game which I bought blindly like that, the last AC. I didn't feel like getting past the starting zones in that game, but at least Ubi manned up and decided to do something about it. They fixed it and as an apology, they gave me FC4 for free. I don't expect CDPR to do something of the sort, this issue is not of that magnitude. It did affect the experience for many though, especially those here. So instead I want them include double the content we could have reasonably expected in the first place. If they do then then'll restore my trust, and at least in my case, I'll switch my purchases from Steam to GoG, like I had planned while I was still playing the game and was thinking of a way to support them.
I have to admit this situation left a sort of a sour aftertaste in my mind. Which is kind of weird. I remember getting pissed off at the ME3 ending, but it passed in a few days. With W3 the frustration passed too, yet there is something lingering in my mind, a sense of sadness perhaps? I actually cleared my mind and thought for a few minutes trying to come up with the right feeling, I didn't succeed.
I never finished my second playthrough, got as far as KM, and other than to get a reference or two, haven't touched the game in two weeks. Went back to W2 for a while but stopped as well around ch2. I realized what I wanted wasn't going to be there either. Instead it just reminded me of this mess. I don't plan on finishing the books anymore either . I'll keep posting here for a while and eventually I'll just write the whole thing off my memory. That's the beauty of the human mind, it forgets unpleasant things. I have many TV shows. books and other games to devote my attention to anyway. It's a pity though, this could have been something else, one of those stories that you enjoy. stick with you and then remember fondly for the rest of your life.
Like I said, I'll still probably get it if it's a great addition to the story, great fun, etc. If it's simply more of the same, and the base game can hold up without it, seeing as I'm not swimming in money right now, I probably won't. If some of our concerns are addressed here (there are many besides simply more Triss, although I don't expect you to read all 600 pages), then I will be more conciliatory towards the expansions.
[Edit] I also said, I will probably play them eventually regardless. Maybe a price drop/sale down the road will help. I just don't plan to buy em the day they come out.
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I can understand your stands but, and I cant speak for others but, I don't buy games just to buy them, I play call of duty for example because I love shooter games and I love shooting, it's an American thing lol.Boycott of expansions because of Triss' content - that sounds beyond ridiculous, sorry
I play RPG because I like the game to respond to my choices, i line my choice to influence the direction of the game. I play witcher because I like the characters, Geralt, Triss, Dandelion, and all the other characters developed from Witcher 1.
If I purchased a call of duty game and half the weapons weren't selectable or I could not pickup the weapon of a dead player, or ibteract with object in the game, do you think its fair to buy the expansion if the dev did not fix the issues in the base game? I use COD just as an example but, after playing witcher 3 and getting the feeling that the dev halfed ass the character development, interactions, and tilted the game from the start in favor of a new character, what is the motivation to purchase the expansion if non of the issues in the base game were corrected or adequately addressed?
The whole idea of an RPG like witcher 3 is not just monster killing, don't get me wrong I love that shit. However, the experience suppose to be 360 immersion, the romantic storyline, friendship, betrayal, lost, and loyalty within the story are just as important as the monster slaying hence, the hesitation to get the expansion if the storyline fails to meet those expectation or feel incomplete.
We all love CDPROJEKTRED, they really make good stuff but, it seems like somewhere along the road they decided that it would be better to release the game rather than delay and working out a lot of the issues. Lack of resource, time, material are all legitimate concerns and I'm not insensitive.
However, we expect to get what we pay for. Every advertisement and promotion hinted towards the player having to choose but the entire game did not reconize any choice made by the play with the exception of choices made to get a specific ending. Maybe boycott is a strong word but it be hard to put more money toward an expansion knowing the base game feel incomplete.
Stepping down from the soapbox.
It's not a date simulator but it is a choice simulator, and when one choice overwhelms another it's not quite well. We just want our choice has a significance in the game.
And btw. Relations between Geralt and his women always had a huge impact on the story since the books.
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As much as I'd love more Triss (I definitely agree with many of the points raised in this thread), I'd love to see more interactions with the main characters in general if that were ever possible (i.e.Yen, Triss, Ciri and Dandelion), especially in the third act. Though I know that it could be a huge (and maybe not very feasible) undertaking, and not having it doesn't lessen my love for this incredible game or its excellent story.
CDPR have done a phenomenal job, but perhaps it's because of the sheer quality of their work overall that so many people have noticed inconsistencies and issues where they exist, and we're so vocal about it beause we love the characters and the world that they have so expertly presented to us.
Those are my early morning thoughts on the matter anyway
CDPR have done a phenomenal job, but perhaps it's because of the sheer quality of their work overall that so many people have noticed inconsistencies and issues where they exist, and we're so vocal about it beause we love the characters and the world that they have so expertly presented to us.
Those are my early morning thoughts on the matter anyway
And yet somehow it had some of the finest romantic scenes in the history of gaming.
Considering the whole storyline, books+games, they made Triss and Geralt's whole arc one of the best love stories ever written.
I made a post way back about why their story is so compelling. Granted I'm not one to read romantic fiction, but of all the other stories I've read or watch (and I've read a lot), which have a main story and the romantic stuff alongside it, this is imo one of the best out there.
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Exactly, it isn't like we are demanding some hand holding with Triss (like in fable), instead it is what Triss means to Geralt and vice versa. You are right, i would be hard pressed to find anything that comes close in fiction to the relationship Geralt and Triss have that is potrayed throughout the games. The scenes between them are amazing and it is why we as fans have come to care about them, so obviously when a character like Triss goes missing for 95% of the game, has little references made to her and doesn't exactly fit into the main storylines except as a side character and helper, there is going to be a lot of why did they do that moments. This is Geralt's most personal story (as the developers claim), so if we are talking about what matters to Geralt, then you would think Triss would be right up there either as a lover or friend regardless. CDPR have done an amazing job with their relationship, it just feels like they turned their back on many characters (not just Triss) and focused on the relationship between Geralt and Ciri - granted that is perfectly fine as long as it doesn't detract from what else makes the Witcher so great and Geralt's relationship with his lover, friends & allies is a huge part of what the Witcher is about.
Something that needs to be done is more exclusive scenes depending on your choice out of the 2 characters. Why does it feel like im romancing Triss and Yen at the same time but if I say I love you to Triss I get to go make Hlakbr with her, if I choose Yen I get to ride a Unicorn and some other scene I believe but that aside it feels like I am doing the same scenes regardless of choice, this is confirmed when Yen shoves her tongue down my Geralt who is madly in love with Triss.
If you don't pick Triss in TW1 you miss so many unique scenes with her, in TW2 you get Rose of Remembrance (Best romance scene in any game ever) and the ending scene where she is tortured. In TW3 if you don't pick Triss you get all the same scenes except 15 seconds of Hlakbr and if you don't pick Yen...well same thing really. There's no real choice besides some tiny picture at the end and a very short love scene. That's another problem aside from lack of content all though probably too late to fix now I hope they don't make the same mistakes if they add romance to expansions.
If you don't pick Triss in TW1 you miss so many unique scenes with her, in TW2 you get Rose of Remembrance (Best romance scene in any game ever) and the ending scene where she is tortured. In TW3 if you don't pick Triss you get all the same scenes except 15 seconds of Hlakbr and if you don't pick Yen...well same thing really. There's no real choice besides some tiny picture at the end and a very short love scene. That's another problem aside from lack of content all though probably too late to fix now I hope they don't make the same mistakes if they add romance to expansions.
Have read every book thanks.
Seems like you havent played the games though, since Triss and Geralt share that bed right at the start of the first Witcher game.
Haven't done a playthrough where I romanced Yen, and shan't since I actually like Geralt. So was unaware she goes postal even if you choose her, which only kind of proves my point.....she goes mental even IF you choose her.....interesting.
cuckooo....cuckoooo
I agree completely... If you play W1 you almost want to replay to choose different options. Shani (I never did) or pick between Neutral/non-humans/humans... Even in W2 I was really curious what would have happened if I had picked Roche instead of Iorveth... Atm I honestly can't see myself romancing Yen because it's the exact same scenes... You don't really miss out on knowing her as a character, just as a lover. And there are some "bigger" decisions like Killing Sigi or siding with Radovid ect. but they only show up at the ending "picture show". Really doesn't have alot of replay value if you want to experience things differently. If that makes sense my 5 year old keeps poking me so I can't proof read this. lol
Yep as I recently romanced Yen, you basically get the same reactions from NPCs and nothing interesting whether you romance Yen or Triss. Romance pilot is pretty superficial. Romanced Triss then wanna romance Yen to see how things change? Just don't bother with a new playthrough, watch some videos on youtube and that should be enough. Everything progresses the same in the game except a few private scenes with your lover.
I think that's where they fell short, the game have no replay value because unlike witcher 1, and 2, nothing change if if you change your choices. You confess to Triss and get Yen lickers down your throat with no reaction from Triss. Ok, I can let that slide because Yen was excited that Geralt brought Ciri back safe.
You choose Triss, no one besides the player playing the game knows. After Now or Never it's official Triss is your lover, you ask her for help defending Ciri at Kear Morhen and when she arrives from being MIA you tell her it's nice to see her again(your lover) instead if sayi g nice to see you too, she responds thank Yen? Really?
You are about to face the greatest battle of your life and you talk to everyone but your lover. Hey look on the bright side tho, she did say good luck right? My hairline receded by an inch playing this game because, all the choices meant nothing.
At the end of the game everyone disappear including your lover. Leaving Geralt to wonder the empty world with that damm sad song in the background. When you play a series like witcher you get attached to the characters and that attachment develops as the game develops.
I had to work for Triss romance but with Yen it was in my face from the start. Don't force me to pick a character. If I wanted to romance Yen I would. If they claim the game offers choices then let it be about choices.
If the game reacted to the choices the player made you could play it over and over and get different outcomes. It be like an easter egg hunt, making subtle decision change to see what happens.
Boycott of expansions because of Triss' content - that sounds beyond ridiculous, sorry
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Have found a piece of leaked russian voice over from 2014. Maybe there is some leftover lines that never appears in the game. Somebody should check it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai4iKwP7nmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai4iKwP7nmg
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