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The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

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The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

  • Dissatisfied from the lack of Triss content and want more

    Votes: 1,194 85.3%
  • I don't care at all

    Votes: 40 2.9%
  • There was enough of Triss in the game

    Votes: 128 9.1%
  • I don't like Triss

    Votes: 38 2.7%

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FarrySquall

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#6,061
Jun 23, 2015
HardcoreSalmon said:
Just to reply to the last part. I don't think that would work because PC is the only platform where you can import all 3 games and it would screw over the console players. They can't import and only decide the major choices in the previous games at the start of the game.

What I definitely think should have happened is to make it a choice whether you break up with Triss in between games or not. Doing it offscreen without player decision or explanation was definitely not the way to do it.
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When we use simulate Wicher 2 save, one choice is save Triss from Niffgard or rescure Ananis/cure Saskia. And now why Triss don't mention it when she meet Geralt again ?
 
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SoleilMeurtri

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#6,062
Jun 23, 2015
farrysquallko said:
When we use simulate Wicher 2 save, one choice is save Triss from Niffgard or rescure Ananis/cure Saskia. And now why Triss don't mention it when she meet Geralt again ?
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I always thought that if you saved Triss, Triss would be more gentle in the play through and she would be less if you saved Saskia
 
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HardcoreSalmon

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#6,063
Jun 23, 2015
Redemyr said:
Yeah, comparing the two back to back makes the absence all too much glaring. Heard somewhere that the lead writer on W2 left for CP2077, so maybe that's why.
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From the moving moments in the rest of the game and the romance content we actually get with Triss I'd say it's more of an oversight than anything. They didn't realize how much content people wanted with Triss and how little was actually in the game, is my guess at to what happened.
 
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Gerald01

Rookie
#6,064
Jun 23, 2015
Hello everyone,
just registered specifically to comment (and vote obviously) on this thread.
Pretty upset about the whole thing, as I just now replayed the whole Witcher 2 in preparation of my second TW3 playthrough where I intended to romance Triss.
First time round I chose Yen (due to a combination of curiosity and human error during to the obtuse dock dialogue tree: her staying depends on what I say to Sigi, something she doesn't even hear, really CDPR?).
The Yennefer romance path is beautifully done and apart from very minor issues, feels complete and satisfactory.
Got a pretty brilliant story on the whole, save from some hiccups. Should have called it a day in hindsight.

Anyway, it's not the lack of content that bothers me, more like the inconsistencies and sloppyness in the dialogue and character reactions if Triss is chosen.

Honestly, I would have preferred her romance to end with the lighthouse scene and her never appearing again save for maybe the epilogue, or the credit scene itself.
Would've been better than the mess we got. Succint, coincise yet beautiful and memorable.


I can't believe my Gerald just declared his eternal love to (a somewhat emotionally scarred) woman only to crassly flirt with another (without me having any choice in the matter) just a few days later in Skellige. Pretty sure in the very first verbal exchange you have with her. I'm also pretty sure he made out (if nothing worse) behind the tapestry during the Mask quest a couple hours later.

Definitely the whole ordeal feels like a bitter waste of time on my part at this point.
 
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DaWitcher

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#6,065
Jun 23, 2015
HardcoreSalmon said:
From the moving moments in the rest of the game and the romance content we actually get with Triss I'd say it's more of an oversight than anything. They didn't realize how much content people wanted with Triss and how little was actually in the game, is my guess at to what happened.
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If that's the case then it's a gross oversight. They should have expected and anticipated the level of Triss content fans would demand based on the last two games and the chatter on the Internet since the last game. If they didn't then someone wasn't listening and I wasn't the fans.

Am I wrong to have so much hope that these issues will be addressed by the dev? CDPROJEKTRED please don't let us down.
 
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HardcoreSalmon

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#6,066
Jun 23, 2015
Gerald01 said:
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Welcome.

Yeah there shouldn't have been any flirting with Yennifer without a dialogue choice, it was also really annoying when she reads your mind and says "she likes what she's hearing." I was like hey Yennifer read my mind I love Triss and have gotten back together with her!
 
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Redemyr

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#6,067
Jun 23, 2015
Gerald01 said:
Hello everyone,
just registered specifically to comment (and vote obviously) on this thread.
Pretty upset about the whole thing, as I just now replayed the whole Witcher 2 in preparation of my second TW3 playthrough where I intended to romance Triss.
First time round I chose Yen (due to a combination of curiosity and human error during to the obtuse dock dialogue tree: her staying depends on what I say to Sigi, something she doesn't even hear, really CDPR?).

Anyway, it's not the lack of content that bothers me, more like the inconsistencies and sloppyness in the dialogue and character reactions if Triss is chosen.

Honestly, I would have preferred her romance to end with the lighthouse scene and her never appearing again save for maybe the epilogue, or the credit scene itself.
Would've been better than the mess we got. Succint, coincise yet beautiful and memorable.


I can't believe my Gerald just declared his eternal love to (a somewhat emotionally scarred) woman only to crassly flirt with another (without me having any choice in the matter) just a few days later in Skellige. Pretty sure it's the very first verbal exchange you have with her. I'm also pretty sure he made out (if nothing worse) behind the tapestry during the Mask quest a couple hours later.

Definitely the whole ordeal feels like a bitter waste of time on my part at this point.
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It is fixed now, she gets to say if you say the three words, regardless of what you say to Sigi.

On the other hand, this is just another way of railroading new players to Yen. I mean, let's try again sound like the most reasonable option at that point (I went with I love you but that's because, well, you know).

In any case, a new player, just like in real life he might opt to take things more slowly, take a step forward, recognizing the fact that they are "into her" and want to "reignite the flames", but not go all in. I'm talking about the option to "Let's try again." After all they hadn't had the chance to get to know Yen so they would be curious about the other woman. Once they know both, then they could make the choice.

Unfortunately by then it is too late to start something with Triss, she already decided a good but cautious approach won't cut it. And it makes sense, if you consider the whole books+previous two games. But how many players actually read/played that? Comparing how many more copies this game sold than it's previous iterations, not to mention the books, we have like what, 30-40% of returning players?

In contrast, Yen option are binary. Yes/No, and they don't even include the three words when the players chooses. Correct me if I'm wrong but in that part Yen says some very beautiful words and then the player can either say that they feel the same or not, and if they do, then Geralt says those three words on his own. Again completely biased.
 
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HardcoreSalmon

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#6,068
Jun 23, 2015
DaWitcher said:
If that's the case then it's a gross oversight. They should have expected and anticipated the level of Triss content fans would demand based on the last two games and the chatter on the Internet since the last game. If they didn't then someone wasn't listening and I wasn't the fans.

Am I wrong to have so much hope that these issues will be addressed by the dev? CDPROJEKTRED please don't let us down.
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I am really hopeful too, it doesn't feel like a complete game with the Triss romance the way it is. When I beat the game I didn't feel like I got a happy ending with Triss even though the game told me I did.
 
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Gerald01

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#6,069
Jun 23, 2015
HardcoreSalmon said:
Welcome.

Yeah there shouldn't have been any flirting with Yennifer without a dialogue choice, it was also really annoying when she reads your mind and says "she likes what she's hearing." I was like hey Yennifer read my mind I love Triss and have gotten back together with her!
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Thank you,
yes that's exactly it.

I agree with others the sloppyness can only be explained rationally by a late cycle (or even last min) addition for the Triss romance option, with the entirety of late-game having been programmed and recorded with a default Yen romance in mind.
Not even a neutral path (meaning no romance with either, which would be the normal course of action if you ever intended your game to have options regarding this matter), but specifically Gerald reconciling with Yen and choosing her as a canon path.

The neutral/solo Gerald+witcher path ending, along with double (failed) romance, in addition to the aforementioned Triss option, have to be later modifications.
 
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DaWitcher

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#6,070
Jun 23, 2015
HardcoreSalmon said:
I am really hopeful too, it doesn't feel like a complete game with the Triss romance the way it is. When I beat the game I didn't feel like I got a happy ending with Triss even though the game told me I did.
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Same here, the game said I got a happy ending with Triss but it felt hollow, because I more to say to her during the game.

I wanted the chance to reassured her that was it no more wondering if Geralt would somehow go back to Yen but the dev took that away from me and then had Yen putting her lickers down Geralt throat in front of Triss.


Ladies and gentlemen I am happy to announce the current vote tally in favor of our girl Triss.

871******Triss
28 *******Abstain
85 *******Against
23 *******Haters

Just kidding about the haters but seriously tho they said they hated Triss. Who could have a lovely face like that. She melts your heart when she speaks.
 
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Gerald01

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#6,071
Jun 23, 2015
Redemyr said:
It is fixed now, CUT
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Well, that's good I guess. However that bug at least let me experience the Yennefer romance first.
Yes I agree saying ILY that early in the game in such a clear cut manner would be hard to do. And not only for new players, but everyone playing TW3 for the first time.
Even with no bug, it's probable I would have chosen the second option anyway, clueless as that being my only and latest opportunity at romancing her.
Who could have thought Triss would virtually disappear (as a full fleshed, interactive character at least) from the remaining 70+ hours of the game after that?

About Yen options... it's more like you have to go out of your way NOT to romance her (by romance I don't mean get the specific happy ending, just romantic interaction-> couple behaviour).
In truth, her romance is so intertwined with the game it feels completely natural. Experiencing the story together with her really fleshes out the dynamic between the two characters, even if the romantic scenes proper are few and sparse. It's her tone, banter, a little thing here, another there making up a cohesive dozens of hours-spanning, experience.

It really feels like how the game was intended to be played.
 
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xE1NSTE1Nx2049

Rookie
#6,072
Jun 23, 2015
@ahmed872100 this is actually quite a bad idea. Sorry to put it so bluntly. :X Spamming the devs won't get us any more support, in fact the thread might get closed down altogether. I've put in way too much time to allow that to happen. They've noticed us, you can be sure of that. We just need to have patience. :)

PS Also, my goddamn computer broke so I won't be extremely active till it gets fixed. I don't like this forum on my tablet. I can read it just fine but replying, quoting, doing anything really is too cumbersome. I'll try to reply to little stuff here and there but I'll have less of presence until maybe Friday it sounds like. Keep the thread going strong guys. Remember, for Triss! :wub:
 
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SoleilMeurtri

Rookie
#6,073
Jun 23, 2015
DaWitcher said:
Same here, the game said I got a happy ending with Triss but it felt hollow, because I more to say to her during the game.

I wanted the chance to reassured her that was it no more wondering if Geralt would somehow go back to Yen but the dev took that away from me and then had Yen putting her lickers down Geralt throat in front of Triss.


Ladies and gentlemen I am happy to announce the current vote tally in favor of our girl Triss.

871******Triss
28 *******Abstain
85 *******Against
23 *******Haters

Just kidding about the haters but seriously tho they said they hated Triss. Who could have a lovely face like that. She melts your heart when she speaks.
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Because they need to play in French
 
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DaWitcher

Rookie
#6,074
Jun 23, 2015
xE1NSTE1Nx2049 said:
@ahmed872100 this is actually quite a bad idea. Sorry to put it so bluntly. :X Spamming the devs won't get us any more support, in fact the thread might get closed down altogether. I've put in way too much time to allow that to happen. They've noticed us, you can be sure of that. We just need to have patience. :)

PS Also, my goddamn computer broke so I won't be extremely active till it gets fixed. I don't like this forum on my tablet. I can read it just fine but replying, quoting, doing anything really is too cumbersome. I'll try to reply to little stuff here and there but I'll have less of presence until maybe Friday it sounds like. Keep the thread going strong guys. Remember, for Triss! :wub:
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No worries we got this. By the time your computer is fixed we be well over 1000 votes for the beautiful Triss.


More Triss, More Triss, More Triss, More Triss Geralt Merigold
 
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LiquidState

Senior user
#6,075
Jun 23, 2015
xE1NSTE1Nx2049 said:
@ahmed872100 this is actually quite a bad idea. Sorry to put it so bluntly. Spamming the devs won't get us any more support, in fact the thread might get closed down altogether. I've put in way too much time to allow that to happen. They've noticed us, you can be sure of that. We just need to have patience.
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Yeah, I completely agree. It's a nice sentiment, but there's no way the devs haven't noticed a thread with 250k+ views. Besides, not everyone might ask so nicely. =/
 
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Riddlin

Senior user
#6,076
Jun 23, 2015
DaWitcher said:
Nice stuff but it be more amazing if Triss figure out a cure for sorceress and witcher infertility during that time. A little Geralt- Triss be awesome.
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I agree! The only thing was, the mere mention of that seemed to inflame the canon masses...I did a little researching and it seemed much more likely that they would be grands to Ciri's little ones.

Triss + baby-bump = precious :)
 
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msanx

Rookie
#6,077
Jun 23, 2015
Yeah i highly doubt a thread with over 600 pages, over 1000 votes, and 250,000 views is going to be ignored not to mention all the other Triss threads out there, and we certainly don't want to pressure CDPR into doing something because we are constantly putting them in that position to begin with. Patience is the key, the game has been out for just over a month and there is plenty of time for them to announce something, no need to rush or panic at this point.
 
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DaWitcher

Rookie
#6,078
Jun 23, 2015
Riddlin said:
Triss + baby-bump = precious :)
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I concur, 100%.

Put the word out folks let us get our supporting votes over thousand by the end of the week. Post on your Facebook, Twitter, mypage, yourspace, hell anyone remember Aol and netzero? Use those too plus all the other crazy things people chat on these days. Don't forget instant mail and fastgram. Or was it instant gram? I forget, Lol
 
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SoleilMeurtri

Rookie
#6,079
Jun 23, 2015
msanx said:
Yeah i highly doubt a thread with over 600 pages, over 1000 votes, and 250,000 views is going to be ignored not to mention all the other Triss threads out there, and we certainly don't want to pressure CDPR into doing something because we are constantly putting them in that position to begin with. Patience is the key, the game has been out for just over a month and there is plenty of time for them to announce something, no need to rush or panic at this point.
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How do you know that it has 250,00 views?
 
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CaptainZamzabam

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#6,080
Jun 23, 2015
SoleilMeurtri said:
How do you know that it has 250,00 views?
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There is a view counter on the forum page. It's actually over 260,000.
 
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