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I think their goal was to make a love scene not a porn scene. But yes. They've cut too much IMO.
Folks, this issue may not effect me as much as you guys, but I do understand how you feel. Do you think it's worth doing a poll outside of these forums to gauge a wider consensus on the matter?
In TW2 there was very passionate scene without porn, they could show this scene also passionately as in previous game, not just some foolish on wall with shadows.
Exactly! I really don't see the problem. Bioware called back voice actors a lot of times for their dlc's even over a year after the game was released (citadel dlc for example). From what i read here seems like voice actors are superstars!! They are only people doing their job.
Okay first of all i have to apologise to @Gerald01 for being a little hostile last night i had to go to sleep and i was grumpy and i what i was saying was not expressed in the right way(probably because English is not my first language).
Now i would like to explain in a better way what i failed to say yesterday.
The reason for that is not that they don't want more Triss content but because if they actually make one the other half of the fanbase(Team Yen) will jump out of their chairs because the devs are being selective and one sided.Think about, it would be named something Triss DLC which is not very effective marketing side and won't please the entire fanbase.If they were to make a Romance DLC or better ,what we really need here, an Enhanced Edition that would appeal to most of the fans and frankly its a win-win situation for us,we get more Triss and we don't get to see another forum like this which would dedicated to Yen.Now you can say that Yen already has a lot of content in the game(that is to be expected she is closer to Ciri and hasn't got any screen time in previous games) but when you romance her pretty much nothing changes and you only get ONE extra side quest(The Last Wish).Saying that to Yen fans though is like saying to us that Triss is more of a side character and an central one which is why there is not going to be any addition.That is why i supported the idea of Yen getting more content too.Its better for us and for CDPR who are going to please much more fans with not too much more work.
We really need to start giving more coherent and collective feedback.I think that the current state of the thread is a bit confusing for the devs,and in my opinion could be part of the reason why they are being discouraging.
From my point of view what we really need is:
1)More cutscenes and dialogues with our romance of choice which are going to differ from the ones of the we get if we don't romance that particular person.
2)Some more character interaction between our romance and the characters close to Geralt regarding the said romance choice in Act 2 and 3 of the game especially before and after some critical situations(Battle of Kaer Morhen and and final battle against the Hunt).Basically side characters reactions and thought of your own romance choice which would enhance the immersion the role-playing factor of the game.
Some other stuff we could ask for(nice to get but not necessary):
1)Kovir Expansion(DLC would not be possible since the creation of a new landscape would also ask for a lot more quests than the amount a DLC has to offer).This is something nice to keep to mind for the long run after the already planned expansions.
Tell me what you think guys
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Now i would like to explain in a better way what i failed to say yesterday.
So what i was trying to say is not that they actually have a "fanboy-like mentality" but that mentality was used so they could convey in a "funny,unofficial and immature" way a certain atmosphere that is currently present in the CDPR offices which is not so encouraging for us and probably precedes a more official harsh statement in the close future.In my opinion the fact that the RED posts in this thread and in the Immersion Destroyer one are a bit discouraging is not unrelated.
The reason for that is not that they don't want more Triss content but because if they actually make one the other half of the fanbase(Team Yen) will jump out of their chairs because the devs are being selective and one sided.Think about, it would be named something Triss DLC which is not very effective marketing side and won't please the entire fanbase.If they were to make a Romance DLC or better ,what we really need here, an Enhanced Edition that would appeal to most of the fans and frankly its a win-win situation for us,we get more Triss and we don't get to see another forum like this which would dedicated to Yen.Now you can say that Yen already has a lot of content in the game(that is to be expected she is closer to Ciri and hasn't got any screen time in previous games) but when you romance her pretty much nothing changes and you only get ONE extra side quest(The Last Wish).Saying that to Yen fans though is like saying to us that Triss is more of a side character and an central one which is why there is not going to be any addition.That is why i supported the idea of Yen getting more content too.Its better for us and for CDPR who are going to please much more fans with not too much more work.
We really need to start giving more coherent and collective feedback.I think that the current state of the thread is a bit confusing for the devs,and in my opinion could be part of the reason why they are being discouraging.
From my point of view what we really need is:
1)More cutscenes and dialogues with our romance of choice which are going to differ from the ones of the we get if we don't romance that particular person.
2)Some more character interaction between our romance and the characters close to Geralt regarding the said romance choice in Act 2 and 3 of the game especially before and after some critical situations(Battle of Kaer Morhen and and final battle against the Hunt).Basically side characters reactions and thought of your own romance choice which would enhance the immersion the role-playing factor of the game.
Some other stuff we could ask for(nice to get but not necessary):
1)Kovir Expansion(DLC would not be possible since the creation of a new landscape would also ask for a lot more quests than the amount a DLC has to offer).This is something nice to keep to mind for the long run after the already planned expansions.
Tell me what you think guys
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Whats up guys I'm back.
For reference: http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/40694-The-Triss-content-and-the-inconsistency-of-our-romance-s-choice?p=1799649#post1799649
So i have just about caught up on all the posts I missed and I will say - I am not going to add better sex scenes to list hahahah
Also I was thinking about it and on the boat in Skellige I think we only need a line or 2 of dialogue from Yen/Ciri/Triss and not a full blown scene - something to do with "How Triss how you feeling?" (ans similiar line for the other 2) tree of dialogue because all she ever says is "So so, why do yo ask?" and then there is no response available - Or did I miss something on my playthrough?
Then as long as we get the first two points - or even just Number 1 - the dialogue will feel more evenly spread out and fix a lot of the issues we have
What do you guys think?
For reference: http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/40694-The-Triss-content-and-the-inconsistency-of-our-romance-s-choice?p=1799649#post1799649
So i have just about caught up on all the posts I missed and I will say - I am not going to add better sex scenes to list hahahah
Also I was thinking about it and on the boat in Skellige I think we only need a line or 2 of dialogue from Yen/Ciri/Triss and not a full blown scene - something to do with "How Triss how you feeling?" (ans similiar line for the other 2) tree of dialogue because all she ever says is "So so, why do yo ask?" and then there is no response available - Or did I miss something on my playthrough?
Then as long as we get the first two points - or even just Number 1 - the dialogue will feel more evenly spread out and fix a lot of the issues we have
What do you guys think?
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Honestly I would say, go with Yen, its not bad at all its just that I prefer Triss.
This way if we by some miracle get the Devs to add some new stuff. You can experience the full complete improved Triss romance from the start in a second playthrough.
Yen is a bitch - but she does love Geralt and Ciri more than anything else.
It's not about screen time or quantity. CDPR screwed up Triss romance in a some way. In a short: lack of Triss in the 3rd act ("Well" and "Good luck" monologues), lack of reflecting your romance choice, a little bit aggressive Yenn promotion without any way to avoid that.
Made a poll in reddit for those interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/witcher/comments/3b2epk/how_do_you_feel_about_the_triss_content_in_this/
Here's the exact poll: http://ampoll.com/poll/eeriurooeq
https://www.reddit.com/r/witcher/comments/3b2epk/how_do_you_feel_about_the_triss_content_in_this/
Here's the exact poll: http://ampoll.com/poll/eeriurooeq
If you want to Romance Triss do Now or Never after Ugly Baby
If you choose to Romance Yen do Now or Never before heading to Skellige.
Either way the game doesn't seem to change much. You can always watch Triss' romance on YouTube.
Yep, she comes across as very dislikable, but she's got a heart despite her cold exterior (she even made me cry in the books!). To be honest though, just go with whoever feels right for you, the Triss stuff is lovely even if it's not quite as expansive. Or just go for Keira is all else fails
Not him but, why does it matter when you do them?If you want to Romance Triss do Now or Never after Ugly Baby
If you choose to Romance Yen do Now or Never before heading to Skellige.
Either way the game doesn't seem to change much. You can always watch Triss' romance on YouTube.
If you do Now or Never after Ugly Baby you don't have to worry about her not being in Kaer Morhen when you bring UMA there. It fits the storyline better
And you can space out Triss' quests.Also just realsied after reading some posts again - a Yen/Triss confrontation might not be plausible
@LiquidState mentioned that Yen is comepletely exhausted after the Uma transformation and wont have the energy to argue.
When Ciri is rescued everything is a rush to prepare for the imminent arrival of the Wild Hunt so they don;t have the time to argue there.
No time after the battle feels appropriate to do it.
It can't happen before the Uma transformation because that WOULD be changing Triss's story - making her present during the ritual and messing up the order of events as some people don't do her Novigrad missions until after during Brothers quest.
I think if this is to happen then it needs to be off screen and implied via dialogue to Geralt that it happened - perhaps this dialogue could take place don the boat in Skellige - again 2 birds one stone.
Example on the boat Geralt says to Yen - "You and Triss...is everything ok?" then she replies in typical Yen fashion lol
to Triss - "You and Yen...getting along ok?" then Triss replies with whatever suits her.
Both of them implying that they cleared the air and after a heated discussion are both over it.
@LiquidState mentioned that Yen is comepletely exhausted after the Uma transformation and wont have the energy to argue.
When Ciri is rescued everything is a rush to prepare for the imminent arrival of the Wild Hunt so they don;t have the time to argue there.
No time after the battle feels appropriate to do it.
It can't happen before the Uma transformation because that WOULD be changing Triss's story - making her present during the ritual and messing up the order of events as some people don't do her Novigrad missions until after during Brothers quest.
I think if this is to happen then it needs to be off screen and implied via dialogue to Geralt that it happened - perhaps this dialogue could take place don the boat in Skellige - again 2 birds one stone.
Example on the boat Geralt says to Yen - "You and Triss...is everything ok?" then she replies in typical Yen fashion lol
to Triss - "You and Yen...getting along ok?" then Triss replies with whatever suits her.
Both of them implying that they cleared the air and after a heated discussion are both over it.
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Before the certain point Triss romance is amazing. I saw Yenn scenes on youtube and still consider Triss romance is better. I really enjoyed it. I've got my ending with her. And i was happy with a little bit bitter aftertaste. And it's not about rewarding it is about playing how you feel. This is my totally fanboyish opinion btw.
Agree, i actually think the few scenes ith Triss are some of the best scenes I have scene in any game for a while - very well wirtten imo.
Besides... when Ciri and Geralt return from the Isle Triss and Yen already had enough time to argue and sort things out. Surely that is what Yen would do in this situation and I see no reason why Triss would not tell her everything after all that happened. They don't need Geralt for that.
And yeah, talking about it really makes most sense after the battle in KM, I agree. Could also happen before the little snowball fight though. Would not be the first timing here. A short piece of dialogue could be more than enough to address a few things, I think so too.
That poll is actually scaring me more than anything, a lot of votes on that poll saying no to more content and at this rate it will be a bigger poll than ours in no time.
This may very well be due to the fact that the nature of the romance scenes are very different.
In Yen scenes, you really feel that She and Big G have a history. There's a familiarity. It shows in the way they talk to each other, in their facial expressions (mad props to CDPR for these by the way). It's an old love, unbridled. There's also Yen's character of course, she being very blunt and, supremely confident and, let's admit it, a bit self-centered.
Triss is another woman, with another kind of relationship with Big G, and both are fairly well (if not often) depicted. You can see the sexual tension from the very start, the way she looks at, talks to and position herself in regards to Geralt during the introduction scene in the King of Beggars and Granary scenes. Triss is more earnest, and not-so-secretly hopeful. But the operative word here is earnest.
Here, new topic that totally hasn't been discussed to death in the last 700 (!) pages !
Since what we do all wish for is some more dialog options aboard the SS "Eredin Sucks Flaccid Cocks", what topic should she and Geralt discuss ?
I'm thinking a general "How are things turning out for the mages in Kovir" where she tells you about how the other mages are doing and how they and the Koviri government are handling things, available even when she's not your love interest, and a more personal "Soo, about that house..."
After all, she's mentionned in the fountain scene that she would tell you more about it, but all I could make out was that there was going to be a
well.
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