The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

[DaWitcher]

Guys, i'm impressed. I totally agree with you about the lack of Triss content, but don't you think there are bigger problems? I mean, i'd really like to see 700+ pages on these threads as well:
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/46571-Why-the-main-narrative-in-the-last-third-of-the-game-is-a-bad-hot-mess-major-spoilers!!!
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/46839-Eredin-says-12-sentences-during-the-whole-game-and
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/45206-Did-the-ending-feel-quite-rushed-to-you
As much as i love, and hate, Triss i think that THE F* WILD HUNT and the "Deus ex machina" ending deserve a little more of explanation and development than the Geralt/Triss romance. You care more about b00bs than the last act/ending opo:

Spoiler

TeamYen Btw :hai:

Time out for you. JK

I agree that the ending felt very rushed. But this is about our love for Triss and inconsistancies within the game play and character treatment.

We support our cause but if they fix some of that, the ending may be corrected too. Kill two birds with one stone.

What's wrong with loving boobs? If you don't mind be asking.

More Triss, More Triss, More Triss, More Triss Geralt Merigold

 

[Pav94an]

Guys, i'm impressed. I totally agree with you about the lack of Triss content, but don't you think there are bigger problems? I mean, i'd really like to see 700+ pages on these threads as well:
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/46571-Why-the-main-narrative-in-the-last-third-of-the-game-is-a-bad-hot-mess-major-spoilers!!!
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/46839-Eredin-says-12-sentences-during-the-whole-game-and
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/45206-Did-the-ending-feel-quite-rushed-to-you
As much as i love, and hate, Triss i think that THE F* WILD HUNT and the "Deus ex machina" ending deserve a little more of explanation and development than the Geralt/Triss romance. You care more about b00bs than the last act/ending opo:

Spoiler

TeamYen Btw :hai:

Thats not fair, its not just about boobs - I prefer ass
so naturally i liked thaat ass shot of Triss in the light house lol


SOme of the suggestions in our list would help flesh out the 3rd act imo, especially the boat in skellige.
Although I do agree its really strange that Eredin has so few lines of dialogue.

 

[SoleilMeurtri]

Je suis français personnes ne va comprendre se j'écrits mais c'est pagraves enfin bref c'est pour dire que moi aussi je suis mécontents du contenu de triss et sa serai cool qui nous rajoute du contenu je pense que beaucoup de se personnes serai satisfaits et je serai moins frustré que ma romance se termine par un bonne chance !

Ton écriture est mauvaise

 

[HardcoreSalmon]

Guys, i'm impressed. I totally agree with you about the lack of Triss content, but don't you think there are bigger problems? I mean, i'd really like to see 700+ pages on these threads as well:
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/46571-Why-the-main-narrative-in-the-last-third-of-the-game-is-a-bad-hot-mess-major-spoilers!!!
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/46839-Eredin-says-12-sentences-during-the-whole-game-and
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/45206-Did-the-ending-feel-quite-rushed-to-you
As much as i love, and hate, Triss i think that THE F* WILD HUNT and the "Deus ex machina" ending deserve a little more of explanation and development than the Geralt/Triss romance. You care more about b00bs than the last act/ending opo:

Spoiler

TeamYen Btw :hai:

Honestly I didn't have much of a problem with the last act story wise, the Epilogue did feel a bit lackluster but I understand how hard it is to do with all of the decisions taken into.

IMO nothing was more disappointing then the lack of Triss content, it really wrecked the game. And please don't insult us saying all we care about is b**bs, we care deeply about characters in this game and it's not about watching sex scenes.

Also the problems you are bringing up there involve massive changes to the story and ending where we are just asking for more dialogue and interactions with a romantic option. It's a lot more realistic for them to fix our problems.

 

[Scholdarr.452]

Maybe CDPR should make Triss the main villain in TW3. I mean that would fix both the lacking Eredin and Triss' lacking screen time...

c:


And don't be afraid, in good ol' James Bond manner you can always plough the bad woman as well...

 

[Pav94an]

Well im off to bed, we achieved a lot today guys so well done - lets hope OP puts up the list = I private messaged him aswell but no reply yet.

Speak tomorrow.

:cheers:

 

[Holgar82]

IMO nothing was more disappointing then the lack of Triss content, it really wrecked the game. And please don't insult us saying all we care about is b**bs, we care deeply about characters in this game and it's not about watching sex scenes.

Also the problems you are bringing up there involve massive changes to the story and ending where we are just asking for more dialogue and interactions with a romantic option. It's a lot more realistic for them to fix our problems.

I know that these are massive changes and not just some lines of dialogue but for me it's something that must be absolutely "fixed", in some way. The last act is so... flat
The thing about b00bs was sarcasm anyway, didn't mean to insult anyone.

We support our cause but if they fix some of that, the ending may be corrected too. Kill two birds with one stone.

What's wrong with loving boobs? If you don't mind be asking.

As i said before i support this cause too and there's nothing wrong in loving boobs! I just wish we could bring up to CDPR also these other problems, with the same effort.

 

[Redemyr]

I've been writing a text called "what if I had been handled the script of the game before production started, with the benefit of hindsight". Mainly in relation the participation of the two women.

It contains many inclusions of Triss in Novigrad and in other areas, there are also some Yen scenes that I thought were missing or needed more, where I felt their presence could have added meaning or made sense, using the existing content as a guide. Not that ever hope to any see of this, just writing it for the sake of it.

The first part is related to Yen, here's the extract:

The highly anticipated reunion should have been much much longer. Sitting in the park, playing Gwent (instead of the nobleman, it should have been Yennefer the one with the OP deck), throw some teasing in the likely scenario that she wins. Hell they could have made a strip Gwent between the two.

There should have been some talks about what both had been up to, making Yen the IMPORT-your-game character, instead of the general. Perfect opportunity to get Yen thoughts and opinions on the choices we’d made in the other two games. And perfectly logical too I mean, if we’ve been searching for her six months in a row and never seen each other in years logic would dictate that one of the things we’d be doing is CATCHING UP. This is imo the first GREAT MISSED OPPORTUNITY, having her as the import character would have killed two birds with one stone.

Then discuss the matter of Ciri, what it means to them, throw some flashback to their iconic scenes. Make the player care. And also, make us understand the history between the two. All the good and all the bad. Throw some semi steamy scene if your choices were to her liking and then off we go to Velen.

 

[Scholdarr.452]

I've been writing a text called "what if I had been handled the script of the game before production started, with the benefit of hindsight". Mainly in relation the participation of the two women.

It contains many inclusions of Triss in Novigrad and in other areas, there are also some Yen scenes that I thought were missing or needed more, where I felt their presence could have added meaning or made sense, using the existing content as a guide. Not that ever hope to any see of this, just writing it for the sake of it.

The first part is related to Yen, here's the extract:

The highly anticipated reunion should have been much much longer. Sitting in the park, playing Gwent (instead of the nobleman, it should have been Yennefer the one with the OP deck), throw some teasing in the likely scenario that she wins. Hell they could have made a strip Gwent between the two.

There should have been some talks about what both had been up to, making Yen the IMPORT-your-game character, instead of the general. Perfect opportunity to get Yen thoughts and opinions on the choices we’d made in the other two games. And perfectly logical too I mean, if we’ve been searching for her six months in a row and never seen each other in years logic would dictate that one of the things we’d be doing is CATCHING UP. This is imo the first GREAT MISSED OPPORTUNITY, having her as the import character would have killed two birds with one stone.

Then discuss the matter of Ciri, what it means to them, throw some flashback to their iconic scenes. Make the player care. And also, make us understand the history between the two. All the good and all the bad. Throw some semi steamy scene if your choices were to her liking and then off we go to Velen.

Great suggestion. I love it.

 

[msanx]

I started reading this thread when it only had 30 pages, now it become daily morning exercise to me. And today is the second time when i woke up and found out i only have 4 to 5 pages to read

Like Redemyr said, we've going around in circles, but if the thread stop, i gonna take me 1 week to stop the shallow feelings


I swear to god, i will beat this game many time if they fix Triss's content (i had play 20 playthrough for Mass effect 2, 3; hope i can do the same for Wild Hunt )

Yep, reading and following this thread has become something i do after waking up, for me it feels a lot better to play through the game and be on this thread and follow it at the same time. If they fix the content i will still be playing this game a decade from now. Also 20 playthroughs for Mass effect 2,3? wow that is incredible, i think i had like 2 playthroughs before i moved onto other games lol (i had like 16 playthroughs for the Witcher 2, that is the most amount of time i have spent on any game)

 

[Redemyr]

Great suggestion. I love it.

Thanks.

Again, I don't consider it a suggestion, since not even in my wildest dreams I see this ever being done. Wait till you see the Triss content I thought about

Anyway, regarding Yen, here's the next part about the different topics we get to import:

roche vs iorveth could touch the subject of discrimination, our role in the first game maybe.

Arian La vallete on political intrigue / our time bodyguarding for Foltest

Saving Letho could lead to a discussion on her first days upon being freed.

Sile could lead to her opinions on the lodge.

Triss rescue would open Pandora's Box. (and once things are calmed down discuss the issue of friends vs great causes)

 

[Gerald01]

@Redemyr
Does your text start with Geralt and Triss broken up regardless of your choices in Witcher 2?
Because I was thinking starting the game with them as a couple, and Geralt struggling to come to terms with his newly acquired memories, would work wonders for pathos.
It would make the reunion with Yen much more emotionally impactful and if you so choose, leaving Triss would make for some great scenes.
The entire dynamic would be much more balanced, because, as is, Triss is basically a third wheel

 

[Riddlin]

Lol this thread was close to going the same after that post about not making changes lol.

Extended exposure to trolls and troll like individuals have the potential side-effects...head aches, shortness of breath, throbbing in the lower extremities, painful rectal itch, aneurisms, stroke...wait, maybe that was the the list of side-effects of my heart meds...let me double check

---------- Updated at 08:11 PM ----------

As much as i love, and hate, Triss i think that THE F* WILD HUNT and the "Deus ex machina" ending deserve a little more of explanation and development than the Geralt/Triss romance. You care more about b00bs than the last act/ending opo:

@Gerald01 Here is one of those examples I was talking earlier this week

We are concentrating on what we think can be fixed. There are at least two threads for THE END GAME fiasco that we have AND at least one asking for MORE details about the Wild Hunt AND another one wanting a better political 'simulator' within the game. EVERYONE of those are valid and I support each one! I hope they can get all the changes they are wanting cause more of anything in this game is a good thing for ALL of us!

We in this thread picked the inconsistencies of the romance options...thanks for dropping in and please, vote and hang around if you want to add to the topic!

---------- Updated at 08:16 PM ----------

@Scholdarr.452

You seem more bitter than usual...have the REDs responded to your thread yet? I keep meaning to drop in but I guess I am a 'bad neighbor'. I need to go check it out again!

---------- Updated at 08:22 PM ----------

@Redemyr
Does your text start with Geralt and Triss broken up regardless of your choices in Witcher 2?
Because I was thinking starting the game with them as a couple, and Geralt struggling to come to terms with his newly acquired memories, would work wonders for pathos.
It would make the reunion with Yen much more emotionally impactful and if you so choose, leaving Triss would make for some great scenes.
The entire dynamic would be much more balanced, because, as is, Triss is basically a third wheel

It seems to me...and maybe I am just out in left field here...but it seems the player should have been given a LOT more 'room' to navigate through the early parts of this story. Maybe there should have been a flashback at the start where the player is given a chance to SET the stage.

And some consideration given to free will of the player...the start seems very much like I am playing riding alone with someone else...I don't know if I really got to make any meaningful decisions until the Baron quest line...

I apologize if I am waxing and waning at the moment...about to finish my second play-through and its TOUGH at the end.

 

[CaptainZamzabam]

Guys, i'm impressed. I totally agree with you about the lack of Triss content, but don't you think there are bigger problems? I mean, i'd really like to see 700+ pages on these threads as well:
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/46571-Why-the-main-narrative-in-the-last-third-of-the-game-is-a-bad-hot-mess-major-spoilers!!!
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/46839-Eredin-says-12-sentences-during-the-whole-game-and
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/45206-Did-the-ending-feel-quite-rushed-to-you
As much as i love, and hate, Triss i think that THE F* WILD HUNT and the "Deus ex machina" ending deserve a little more of explanation and development than the Geralt/Triss romance. You care more about b00bs than the last act/ending opo:

Spoiler

TeamYen Btw :hai:

People are passionate about the characters in this game so it's not surprising that this is the largest thread. Judging by the attention this thread gets, more people see this as a bigger issue than the ending. I would rather have more character content and interactions than developing the narrative further, not to say that expanding upon that would be bad. But character content is the bigger priority for me.
About that last bit....If liking boobs is wrong, then who would want to be right?

 

[justname]

Funny how in just 24 hours the thread has gone from 'suicide watch' to 'glimmer of hope'. That's a testament to the community that has developed over the last month.

They've confused us all with their:" We don't wanna change Triss story line but still consider lack of dialogues is an issue" What the heck is that? What does it mean? Not changing means no changes at all or a couple of extra dialogues isn't a change? It blows my mind. Or CDPR just want to recycle Triss Novigrad dialogues and put it on the Well dialogue place. Damn. That would be a disaster.

 

[Redemyr]

@Redemyr
Does your text start with Geralt and Triss broken up regardless of your choices in Witcher 2?
Because I was thinking starting the game with them as a couple, and Geralt struggling to come to terms with his newly acquired memories, would work wonders for pathos.
It would make the reunion with Yen much more emotionally impactful and if you so choose, leaving Triss would make for some great scenes.
The entire dynamic would be much more balanced, because, as is, Triss is basically a third wheel

It does unfortunately... as much as I would wish it, them still together would literally require a change to the entire story line, mood, etc. And idk, it does feel more organic with the theme we already have in the game and what I'm thinking. I also plan on showing the reason why they broke up (not tell but show) and in the end, it makes for a more epic story between the two, once the challenges are overcome

Although we are in the realm of imagination here, so why not, make your own and them we can see how it turns out

 

[Holgar82]

People are passionate about the characters in this game so it's not surprising that this is the largest thread. Judging by the attention this thread gets, more people see this as a bigger issue than the ending. I would rather have more character content and interactions than developing the narrative further, not to say that expanding upon that would be bad. But character content is the bigger priority for me.
About that last bit....If liking boobs is wrong, then who would want to be right?

Again.. i already said there's nothing wrong about loving boobs (that was sarcasm and hey i love them too!) i just was surprised about all the attention that Triss got compared to all the other situations/problems that affects the game storywise.

Spoiler

Why no one cares about Iorveth? That poor little terrorist elf

 

[HardcoreSalmon]

Again.. i already said there's nothing wrong about loving boobs (hey i love them too!) but i just was surprised about all the attention that Triss got compared to all the other situations/problems that affects the game storywise.

Spoiler

Why no one cares about Iorveth? That poor little elf terrorist

I would have like to see Iorveth too it's just that he was a secondary character and Triss is a main character and a main romance option, obviously people would care more for Triss.

Iorveth really wasn't that important to the story and it would have been just a cameo similar to Letho.

 

[DaWitcher]

Again.. i already said there's nothing wrong about loving boobs (that was sarcasm and hey i love them too!) i just was surprised about all the attention that Triss got compared to all the other situations/problems that affects the game storywise.

Spoiler

Why no one cares about Iorveth? That poor little elf terrorist

Ah ha I knew it you are a closet boob lover, beside Iorveth is not a lovely red hair and doesn't have boobs, we don't swing that way lol. Jk about first part.

We felt that the issues with how Triss and Geralt romance story unfolded in the game were more apparent and f up. How she went from a main important character to a side show/card board cut out doesn't flow and is not consistancy with the claims promoted that the game gives player the ability to choose.

The lack of honest choices were so apparent that even the bum on the street in skellige thought you were romancing Yen even tho you were romancing Triss.

So we decided to take up that cause because we support the lovely Triss. No doubt there are other issues but we had to pick our battles because we can't honestly request everything.

Ok let's get off the boobs subject. Back to topic about Triss.


We love you Triss.

 

[CaptainZamzabam]

Again.. i already said there's nothing wrong about loving boobs (that was sarcasm and hey i love them too!) i just was surprised about all the attention that Triss got compared to all the other situations/problems that affects the game storywise.

Spoiler

Why no one cares about Iorveth? That poor little terrorist elf

I assumed you joking, hence my half joking response.

Spoiler

I miss Iorveth too, him being absent was a strange choice.