The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

[msanx]

The topic has a lot of good ideas on how to improve Triss's content. I'm not sure where you saw us asking for CDPR to remove Yennefer's content.

Looks like that you only saw the stuff that bothered you in the last "15 pages" and you didn't bother looking at the rest.

Exactly nobody wants Yen to have some of her content cut out, in fact most here are for more. If somebody doesn't like Yen as a character it doesn't mean at all that they want Yen to be excluded. There have been really good discussions about how to improve the consistency for Triss and some ideas have been discussed and exhausted to death, yet there would always be something new showing up, and of course any news we hear only adds to the discussions.

Problem is that because a large part of this thread is about the Triss romance, comparisons between her and Yen are inevitable, if we are going to talk about the inconsistencies with Triss, then discussing how the Yen content turned out is also going to be discussed. Sometimes what the poster intends to write can sound a bit different to what they meant (and that can lead to arguments), but from what i have seen, everyone here does their best to stick to the topic and wish the best for all the major characters.

 

[saladin1701]

There is a lot of stuff that happened and doesn't make sense, first of all. Yennefer kissing Geralt in front of Triss... I mean, wth? I know she was happy that he was able to find and bring back Ciri, but still. A part of her must've known that this could cause drama between him and Triss.

That was a trifle. It was a spontaneous outpouring of relief having brought back their 'daughter' safely. I had no problems with that. Triss' look at can interoperated in different ways depending upon the context of the relationship between the three of you. Triss, I've always felt, would be more secure in their relationship. She'd trust Geralt more than Yen, based solely upon the fact that Yen keeps him on a short leash. What I do have problems with is the order of things, specifically the way Act 1 flows in to Act 2 which is where the problems begin. This is how it should have played out.

1. Now or never - you tell Triss you love her, discuss a future in Kovir, tell her you have to find Ciri and that you'll both meet at Kaer Morhen.
2. You arrive at Kaer Morhen and Triss, Keira and/or Letho are there.
3. You speak to Triss privately. The tender kiss that occurs in Act 3 when you arrive at the Chameleon, should have taken place at this point.
4. You have some dialogue about how she's getting on with Yen, etc.
5. The scene in which you and Yen make love before getting drunk with the lads should have been with Triss if she is whom you're involved with.
6. Rest of Act 2 proceeds as normal.
7. Act 3 starts as normal, including the kiss at Dandelion's and the scene at the well. You travel to Skelige.
8. On the eve of the final battle, Triss tells you to be careful and come back to her in one piece - potential final love scene. (<- can also be applied to the Yen romance.)
9. Epilogue. You meet Triss and Ciri at the Inn. Dialogue expanded to include Triss/references of Triss/Geralt relationship (perhaps a "I'm happy for you two") Game ends. (<- again, should be applied to the Yen romance so it ties the loose ends up)

This would have made the events of Act 1 run smoothly in to Act 2. It would have avoided the unnecessary plot holes of missing people and tied up the Epilogue better (Triss had vanished again in the game as it is) as well as allowing for a more developed Triss/Geralt relationship that was on equal terms with the Yen/Geralt relationship.

 

[Zyvik]

I respect your opinion but I guess I can say that I don't agree with you, right? (not sure) I ddn't say that the books were only about Geralt and Yennefer, they aren't of course (even though their love story is one of the main theme through the whole saga). I wanted to say that their relationship was developed during all the seven books...and I'm not really mistaken.

Btw. I'm really glad Yennefer isn't on the cover of Playboy magazine and that she never will.

The first short story collection is even called The Last Wish,which is about Yennefer.It's the central story in the book

 

[SoleilMeurtri]

Seems like no one of you guys have read Baudelaire, Verlaine, Pushkin, Rimbaud, Rilke and etc

 

[Zyvik]

Seems like no one of you guys have read Baudelaire, Verlaine, Pushkin, Rimbaud, Rilke and etc

I read Pushkin

 

[SoleilMeurtri]

I read Pushkin

You are russian?

 

[Zyvik]

You are russian?

Yep!

 

[DaWitcher]

Talk about Triss. Lol


Are you talking about Triss yet? Say she's amazing.

 

[SoleilMeurtri]

Yep!

Do you read all of his poems?

 

[Zyvik]

Talk about Triss. Lol


Are you talking about Triss yet? Say she's amazing.

We are talking about Triss,sometimes I still don't see why she's a Femme Fatale.

 

[SoleilMeurtri]

I mean did you read

 

[LionOfVenice]

Hmm interesting I didn't say that Yen is better than Triss ever here. But a lot of people saying Triss is better than Yen quite often (check the last 15 pages) - they can have their opinions I'm just stating some of them are really wrong. That's all



I would like to see this topic to have another good ideas how to improve the inconsistency - I don't agree with the "let's remove Yen's content" though - it won't happen.

Nobody wants Yen removed, maybe someone don't like her, but 99% of people here only wants inconsistencies fixed and more screen time for Triss.

 

[Gilthoniel]

Exactly nobody wants Yen to have some of her content cut out, in fact most here are for more. If somebody doesn't like Yen as a character it doesn't mean at all that they want Yen to be excluded. There have really good discussions about how to improve the consistency for Triss and some ideas have been discussed and exhausted to death, yet there would always be something new showing up, and of course any news we hear only adds to the discussions.

Problem is that because a large part of this thread is about the Triss romance, comparisons between her and Yen are inevitable, if we are going to talk about the inconsistencies with Triss, then discussing how the Yen content turned out is also going to be discussed. Sometimes what the poster intends to write can sound a bit different to what they meant (and that can lead to arguments), but from what i have seen, everyone here does their best to stick to the topic and wish the best for all the major characters.

I agree with you I really read this topic often (not only the last 15 pages). It is only my opinion and my personal feeling that some of you guys would be forever happy that Yennefer wouldn't be in The Witcher 3 at all...

As I said it is my opinion - I support all of Witcher fans - both camps TeamTriss, TeamYenn and TeamCrones too.

 

[SoleilMeurtri]

Baudelaire said: A Femme Fatale is a woman that can touch the hearts with only her words. Does seem like it's what she did in the lighthouse lol

 

[Zyvik]

I mean did you read

Not all of them,but as DaWitcher said we need to stay on topic.

 

[justname]

Nobody wants Yen removed, maybe someone don't like her, but 99% of people here only wants inconsistencies fixed and more screen time for Triss.

I just want play the game and not the game plays itself.

 

[msanx]

I agree with this, and personally the kiss didn't bother me that much, Yen has a strong relationship with Geralt even if they are broken up at that point and the return of Ciri definitely made her emotional. By the way Triss looks at them it is obvious that she doesn't like it at all, but that is not an appropriate moment for her to make a scene, and she takes the high road. What I would have liked is to be able to mention that kiss to Triss later on and reassure her of my feelings and the fact that there is nothing between Yen and Geralt. The forced flirting on Skellige though is something I also don't like very much.

Yeah the kiss was fine in the context of the situation. Yen hasn't seen Ciri for a long time and when Geralt brings her back safely she can't help but get emotional. Yet Triss also is very happy to see Ciri notices the kiss and just forgets about it, when later on at the Chameleon, Triss could of brought the subject up (or Geralt) and given a couple of dialogue lines/options to explain that it was an 'of the moment' thing and didn't mean anything. I still don't see where the devs were trying to go with that scene but it just was never expanded on for those that romanced Triss.

The flirting in Skellige was off pace, mainly because the game and the story encourages you to do Novigrad first and naturally if you intended to romance Triss, you would do her quests while she was there, and then once you did all that, you go to Skellige and there are discussions about how beautiful she looks and how if she wasn't like that, she wouldn't be the one Geralt loves which is a complete departure from Geralt confessing his feelings to Triss prior to that.

 

[SoleilMeurtri]

Baudelaire said: A Femme Fatale is a woman that can touch the hearts with only her words. Does seem like it's what she did in the lighthouse lol

Baudelaire also described the Triss apparence like a Femme Fatale and the type of personality too.

 

[msanx]

I agree with you I really read this topic often (not only the last 15 pages). It is only my opinion and my personal feeling that some of you guys would be forever happy that Yennefer wouldn't be in The Witcher 3 at all...

As I said it is my opinion - I support all of Witcher fans - both camps TeamTriss, TeamYenn and TeamCrones too.

That is great to hear, this thread is intended to encourage anyone to come here and discuss their opinions as long as it is constructive to the thread. I want Yen to be a major part of the game, i knew that a long time ago and i was happy with it, i just didn't want the whole introducing and establishing new characters to detract from the already established characters (from the previous games), I am a supporter of all the 'teams' well except maybe Avallach (i just didn't like his character, although some would) and i would love a dlc/expansion focusing more on the interactions with these characters that we all care about.

 

[Gerald01]

I agree with you I really read this topic often (not only the last 15 pages). It is only my opinion and my personal feeling that some of you guys would be forever happy that Yennefer wouldn't be in The Witcher 3 at all...

As I said it is my opinion - I support all of Witcher fans - both camps TeamTriss, TeamYenn and TeamCrones too.

What do you mean by "remove Triss content"?
Make it so that the explicit flirting plays only if you did not romance Triss, ergo on the neutral and/or Yen oriented path?