The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

[FarrySquall]

Triss refer to all mage in Norvigad is her close friend just like Geralt to Eskel, Lambert and Vesemir; too selfless :wub:

How can i turn off the skip button, it really annoying when i want to talk picture

 

[msanx]

I love so much Witcher games and especially Triss and Geralt relationship so I have almost all cutscenes.

Same, i have a save before every important interaction between them.

You can make a great rpg storyline with monsters, politics, violence and prejudice but a relationship like the one Triss and Geralt has is just one of the core factors of the games. They share a bond, and their relationship and feelings for each other gives them the motivation to get through all the crap they experience living in this world. I always saw Geralt imo as someone who wanted more than what he had, he wanted a relationship with a female he deeply cared about, and he wanted close friends to keep him company and give himself some meaning to his life. That is what i love about his story, the W2 was about him getting tangled in things he wanted no part in, and this game was his quest to protect those he cared about, and the fact that Triss is always by his side is what he wants to strive for, and of course to settle down in a semi-retired state.

It is one of the best romances in any video game series and i doubt it will be matched for a long time to come - it has set the bar for how to tell a story between two characters who care so much about each other imo.

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I can't understand why Geralt so harshly changed his opinion and attitude to Triss between TW2 and TW3, and why we can't get explanation why this happened...

I assume they want us to come up with the explanations or maybe they thought it would make for an interesting discussion from Triss fans, either way i don't like it one bit.

 

[justname]

I can't understand why Geralt so harshly changed his opinion and attitude to Triss between TW2 and TW3, and why we can't get explanation why this happened...

He completely remembered Yennefer. It would be weird if Geralt found Yenn with Triss on his side. "Hi Yenn. Good looking. I slept with your best friend and totally forgot about you. Btw she's with me. Say hello to Yen, Triss." So i kinda understand why Geralt broke up with Triss. His mind was messed up and confused.

 

[0nakita]

Triss refer to all mage in Norvigad is her close friend just like Geralt to Eskel, Lambert and Vesemir; too selfless :wub:

Triss is so worried about mages like for family and for Geralt and Ciri a lot more.

And why she can't help Geralt to find Ciri, becouse in Novigrad there is so small time we spend with her...

 

[msanx]

He completely remembered Yennefer. It would be weird if Geralt found Yenn with Triss on his side. "Hi Yenn. Good looking. I slept with your best friend and totally forgot about you. Btw she's with me. Say hello to Yen, Triss." So i kinda understand why Geralt broke up with Triss. His mind was messed up and confused.

I'd like to think he needed to work out how he felt about Yen first. It does make sense that he needed to 'break up' with Triss but you have this situation where the player isn't informed till later in the game (when you first talk to her) that their relationship was over instead of being on 'pause', i can understand that from the fact that Geralt's former long lost love is back in the picture, but it seems like he made a rash decision to break up with Triss instead of telling her that he needed to find Yen first before coming back to her if he loved her.

 

[Gerald01]

I'd like to think he needed to work out how he felt about Yen first. It does make sense that he needed to 'break up' with Triss but you have this situation where the player isn't informed till later in the game (when you first talk to her) that their relationship was over instead of being on 'pause', i can understand that from the fact that Geralt's former long lost love is back in the picture, but it seems like he made a rash decision to break up with Triss instead of telling her that he needed to find Yen first before coming back to her if he loved her.

What @justname said makes perfect sense. If only you were not allowed to get back with Triss almost as if nothing happened with no explanation or mentioning of Yen even. Before properly meeting Yen as potential revamped love interest even.

Basically, it's handled very poorly and leads to making apparently no sense.

 

[justname]

I'd like to think he needed to work out how he felt about Yen first. It does make sense that he needed to 'break up' with Triss but you have this situation where the player isn't informed till later in the game (when you first talk to her) that their relationship was over instead of being on 'pause', i can understand that from the fact that Geralt's former long lost love is back in the picture, but it seems like he made a rash decision to break up with Triss instead of telling her that he needed to find Yen first before coming back to her if he loved her.

I think it was fair to Yenn fans, because nobody pushed them a choice they don't want. Actually if Triss romance would be equal to Yenn at some point (and it must be for Pete's sake) this setup will be perfect for the beginning of the game.

 

[saladin1701]

I can't understand why Geralt so harshly changed his opinion and attitude to Triss between TW2 and TW3, and why we can't get explanation why this happened...

Clearly the developers seem to have put the Triss romance in only grudgingly and only as an after thought. It's clear playing the game that they do not want you to romance Triss. I wouldn't surprise me to learn she was not in the original story at all and the well scene was originally with Yen with her two quests probably put in late in development. Hopefully we can get that changed and that romance developed more.

 

[Riddlin]

What @justname said makes perfect sense. If only you were not allowed to get back with Triss almost as if nothing happened with no explanation or mentioning of Yen even. Before properly meeting Yen as potential revamped love interest even.

Basically, it's handled very poorly and leads to making apparently no sense.

I'm sorry, I am somewhat distracted by work(priorities I know) and/or the thickness of my cranial region but...is this about the state of the romance story at the end of TW2 vs. the state of it at the beginning of TW3? The between stories breakup?

Wouldn't a potential flashback early after meeting up with Triss help fill that in? To at least get the player on the same page as the story? That is IF I am understanding this correctly...

 

[Calvanar]

And why after this their broke up? I can't understand, why we can't get explanation in TW3?

/begin rant

Irrational or not, this is why I get so angry at CDPR. It should be MY decision to break up with Triss or not, which I personally would never do after the events of W1/W2.

If you are a new player and know nothing of W2, then the intro choices for W3 could have been set up to have them apart. But if you chased Triss down in W2, and carried that save over, then you should still be a couple at the start of W3. Period!

/end rant


#MoreTriss

 

[Monkey_Molester]

The Elven Bath scene was so amazing and watching it again makes me feel even worse about what CDPR did in Witcher 3. I just don't understand what went through their heads...

 

[SoleilMeurtri]

You could almost feel her heart breaking

I never thought about doing that and i'll never do

 

[Gerald01]

I'm sorry, I am somewhat distracted by work(priorities I know) and/or the thickness of my cranial region but...is this about the state of the romance story at the end of TW2 vs. the state of it at the beginning of TW3? The between stories breakup?

Wouldn't a potential flashback early after meeting up with Triss help fill that in? To at least get the player on the same page as the story? That is IF I am understanding this correctly...

Yes I guess? A flashback would help.
I was commenting specifically on this:

"He completely remembered Yennefer. It would be weird if Geralt found Yenn with Triss on his side. "Hi Yenn. Good looking. I slept with your best friend and totally forgot about you. Btw she's with me. Say hello to Yen, Triss." So i kinda understand why Geralt broke up with Triss. His mind was messed up and confused."

noting on how it may have been the case and may have made sense, however the game did not do a thing to contexualise it in either way.
A flashback + maybe additional line or 2 would make a difference.
It was a comment on the state of the game as is, in that context of a possible explanation @justname gave

 

[not_important]

Is this thread serious? Triss is a nobody to Geralt, the only reason he was in a relationship with her in the first and second game is because of his amnesia, and Triss' friendship with Yennefer is more important to her than her manipulative relationship with Geralt in the first two games. Isn't this obvious to the people posting in this thread?

There's in fact too much Triss content in TW3, no ''romance option'' should've been offered at all. Geralt ''abandoning'' Yennefer for Triss is like him abandoning Ciri to Eredin, it's completely nonsensical and is not grounded in the story of the Witcher universe.

 

[Monkey_Molester]

A topic that has gotten brought up in this discussion was the amount of sex scenes. Some people say Triss needs more while others think it contributes nothing. I think Triss could use another. The elven bath house was a great scene and nothing will ever top it though...

In "The Sword of Destiny" trailer, you can see Triss has some unused scenes. The arguement was brought up if another scene was necessary and let my tell you why it is. With Yennefer, you get two scenes (which makes sense if you say it's because she is new in the series). If you count Witcher 1, Triss has 5 scenes in the entire series. Forget that though, let's talk about just Witcher 3. Yen having two in one game makes the sex scenes feel much less like a quest reward and more like a relationship. This is the main reason Triss should have another. It feels much more personal and meaningful to have two in one game and it really shows that it wasn't just a one time thing.

 

[HardcoreSalmon]

Is this thread serious? Triss is a nobody to Geralt, the only reason he was in a relationship with her in the first and second game is because of his amnesia, and Triss' friendship with Yennefer is more important to her than her manipulative relationship with Geralt in the first two games. Isn't this obvious to the people posting in this thread?

There's in fact too much Triss content in TW3, no ''romance option'' should've been offered at all. Geralt ''abandoning'' Yennefer for Triss is like him abandoning Ciri to Eredin, it's completely nonsensical and is not grounded in the story of the Witcher universe.

How important a character is to Geralt is up to the player because it's an rpg based around CHOICE. We can debate whether it is right to choose Triss over Yen but CDProjekt made it a choice in the game so it should be satisfying either way and the game should reflect your choice.

And are you seriously comparing choosing Triss to giving Ciri to Eredin?

 

[not_important]

How important a character is to Geralt is up to the player because it's an rpg based around CHOICE

Not entirely, because you're playing Geralt of Rivia, you're not playing your own custom character. The character Geralt and the universe he exists in is a pre-determined universe you can't decide over. Choices are given to a limited degree within the realm of possibility of the character that is Geralt. Offering the player the choice to ''abandon Yennefer in favour of Triss'' despite recovering his memory is simply there to satisfy, like I wrote, the people in this thread, the loud BioDrones who think their ''choice'' is divine will that must not be crossed.

And yes, Geralt abandoning Yennefer in favour of Triss is as likely as him giving up Ciri to Eredin. It's simply not within the realm of reality, hence why the Triss content in the game feels so shoehorned in, because it is. There was a good post in this thread from yesterday or maybe two days ago I saw quoted elsewhere which explains this very well, Triss was simply never meant to be ''as important'' as Yennefer, this is obvious because it provoked such a reaction that resulted in 800 pages of waifu nonsense.

 

[not_important]

You think there is only one "romance" canon for the game ? Sorry guy it not how RPG game work. If you want this, go play action game then ...

And clearly you don't care about this thread points, you here only to bash Triss and favor Yen. Sorry this not how the way we discuss thing :innocent:

From your post I deduce you're rather young. The Witcher series are both books and games, the games are a continuiation of the books. RPG games work the way the developer want them to work, some have romances, some have romance options, some only have one romance, some of them don't have any romance at all. Geralt having a relationship with Triss in the first two games is in-character because he doesn't have any memories of Yennefer, which is his love partner. Once he recovers his memory, it's no longer in-character for Geralt to be with Triss over Yennefer, this is recognized by all fans of the series and even CDPR themselves, hence why the choice of choosing Triss instead of Yennefer is in the game as a last-minute decision, hence why it feels so shoehorned in (what you guys are whining about).

 

[ReptilePZ]

Discussing why one might think the Triss content is enough is not off-topic nor flamebait - the very purpose of this thread is to discuss this. If anything, posting Triss pics and gushing over her is off-topic - this is not a fan club. Calling people trolls for disagreeing with you may result in moderator action, so don't. Use the Report system instead, and we will take appropriate action, if necessary.

Also, Dragonbird isn't a "him."

 

[SoleilMeurtri]

Discussing why one might think the Triss content is enough is not off-topic nor flamebait - the very purpose of this thread is to discuss this. If anything, posting Triss pics and gushing over her is off-topic - this is not a fan club.

Also, Dragonbird isn't a "him."

Sorry sir, didn't know she was a girl.