The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

[Pryce68]

sigh.... bro... keep saying you dont care about sex scenes and they wont add any.... they should add at least one more for triss... its only fair cos yen has 2....i care about sex scenes and they should add them to the appropriate moment s....adding sex scenes is easier than adding dialogue in 7 different langs/

I will agree with that statement to some extent. Triss's romance scene in the lighthouse is very similar to Yennefer's first romance scene on the unicorn.
If one character had two erotic romance scenes. I really don't see why the other one shouldn't. Triss deserve her a unique erotic scene (I guess). The goodbye at the end is very depressing too, considering that we run off to Kaer Morhen after in hopes of finding her just for a disappointment.

Something similar to her erotic scene in the previous game. The Witcher 2: Assassin of kings, in the Ruined elven baths would definitely have an impact on the overall romance with her. Especially, if it was after a romantic conversation.

That doesn't fix all the inconsistencies and the plot holes though. Acknowledgement and validation are more required. Whatever comes along is a plus.

 

[lwp]

sigh.... bro... keep saying you dont care about sex scenes and they wont add any.... they should add at least one more for triss... its only fair cos yen has 2....i care about sex scenes and they should add them to the appropriate moment s....adding sex scenes is easier than adding dialogue in 7 different langs/

I thought we could have had at least one at Kaer Morhen with Triss. So disappointing. As a Yen fan, so disappointed. Geralt hasn't seen her in how long since the lighthouse then? I understand that Eredin and Co. are on Ciri's ass but we could have a break before Geralt decides to go all Council of Elrond on us.

 

[msanx]

He was able to put what I was trying to say in a very clear and concise way.

The way the game is presented to us, using any time constrains as a plot device, unless it's within the limits of a quest itself, is completely absurd and requires a lot of suspension of disbelief. Same goes for when Yen leaves in a hurry after our brief encounter in Vizima.

Yeah i see where you are coming from. I was getting to the point that there were opportunities for interaction with Triss throughout the game that weren't available that should of been. Time constraints isn't exactly something i was getting at, but you summed it up nicely. An open world game leaves many secondary activities available to the player that they can do at their own time.

 

[Wendk]

did any of you guys try breaking up with yennefer and after that asking triss at the port to give their relationship another chance? she will leave and maybe that triggers a different romance scene after she talks to yennefer and figure out that you and her broke up permanently?

 

[Pryce68]

did any of you guys try breaking up with yennefer and after that asking triss at the port to give their relationship another chance? she will leave and maybe that triggers a different romance scene after she talks to yennefer and figure out that you and her broke up permanently?

I haven't tried it. But that's highly unlikely. Considering all the plot holes and inconsistencies. You will just waste a few hours only to find out you're heading toward the Lone-Wolf ending.

 

[Trireme]

And for some reason I feel Priscilla and Triss would be good friends...if they actually met...who knows she might have wrote a song for Geralt and Triss. "The Wolven Fire" or something like that.

They really missed good opportunities in Novigrad with Triss, Priscilla, Dandelion, and Zoltan. Those 4 drinking in the tavern together would have been great.

The way I would have designed the Novigrad main quest is this:

>Triss + Geralt kill Menge and learn where Dandelion.
>Geralt goes to Priscilla for help finding Dudu
>Triss comes to the play with Zoltan and makes fun of Geralt
>Triss joins Zoltan and Geralt for the ambush on the road
>Once Dandelion is rescued the whole group returns to Dandelion's tavern to figure out next move
>>In the Tavern: Plan to sneak Triss into Temple Square so she can find out where Ciri teleported
>>Optional: spend a few hours drinking and catching up to celebrate Dandelion's freedom, stories about book and earlier game events
>Temple Square: create a diversion while Triss goes to Ciri's teleport site to find out where she went
>Wild Hunt senses Triss using magic on Ciri's portal and shows up to investigate with navigator + a few warriors
>Kill the Hunt unit and escape
>Triss tells Geralt that Ciri returned to Skellige
>"Desecration" of Novigrad Temple grounds leads to harsher crackdown on the mages in Novigrad (the checkpoints at the gates, etc)
>Now Triss needs to get the mages out -> Matter of Life and Death and Now or Never become available

 

[Redemyr]

They really missed good opportunities in Novigrad with Triss, Priscilla, Dandelion, and Zoltan. Those 4 drinking in the tavern together would have been great.

The way I would have designed the Novigrad main quest is this:

>Triss + Geralt kill Menge and learn where Dandelion.
>Geralt goes to Priscilla for help finding Dudu
>Triss comes to the play with Zoltan and makes fun of Geralt
>Triss joins Zoltan and Geralt for the ambush on the road
>Once Dandelion is rescued the whole group returns to Dandelion's tavern to figure out next move
>>In the Tavern: Plan to sneak Triss into Temple Square so she can find out where Ciri teleported
>>Optional: spend a few hours drinking and catching up to celebrate Dandelion's freedom, stories about book and earlier game events
>Temple Square: create a diversion while Triss goes to Ciri's teleport site to find out where she went
>Wild Hunt senses Triss using magic on Ciri's portal and shows up to investigate with navigator + a few warriors
>Kill the Hunt unit and escape
>Triss tells Geralt that Ciri returned to Skellige
>"Desecration" of Temple grounds leads to harsher crackdown on the mages in Novigrad (the checkpoints a the gates, etc)
>Now Triss needs to get the mages out -> Matter of Life and Death and Now or Never become available

Sounds interesting...

Love the first part.
About the infiltration mission, this would pinpoint Ciri's location to the island where she crashed while hurt. Information we gather afterwards too but some quests are full of redudancy so it's doesn't matter.

Not exactly sure how the desacration in Skelligue would lead to a crackdown in Novigrad though, maybe some merchants carry the news?

 

[LiquidState]

Not exactly sure how the desacration in Skelligue would lead to a crackdown in Novigrad though, maybe some merchants carry the news?

He means this desecration, I think.

>Temple Square: create a diversion while Triss goes to Ciri's teleport site to find out where she went

 

[Trireme]

Not exactly sure how the desacration in Skelligue would lead to a crackdown in Novigrad though, maybe some merchants carry the news?

I meant the desecration of the Novigrad Temple Square- portals opening and a fight with the Wild Hunt would freak out the priests and witch hunters, and they would blame it on the mages in the city.

 

[Riddlin]

did any of you guys try breaking up with yennefer and after that asking triss at the port to give their relationship another chance? she will leave and maybe that triggers a different romance scene after she talks to yennefer and figure out that you and her broke up permanently?

That is exactly what I did.

All of Velen then I moved to Novigrad for ONLY the pyres in the square scene then went to the docks and got the ship to Skelliga.

There , did the quest with Yen and then Last Wish, broke her heart and THEN went back to Novigrad doing EVERYTHING except the Now or Never quest. Saved it until the Brothers in Arms line.

It all made much more sense this way...and it was much better 'spaced'. But Act 3 and the lack of ANY Triss...was even more sickening.

EDIT: To answer the last part, sorry I forgot...

To any of our knowledge(pretty sure) no character in the game is aware of Geralt choosing Triss OR that Geralt has broken it off with Yen...that is the reason we are here...those inconsistencies are BAD for the game, mmmkay!

There is absoutly nothing different with the story in Act 3 doing it this way, whether you romance Triss or chose Yen...late game is the same.

 

[Redemyr]

He means this desecration, I think.

Ah ok... yeah makes sense, it's a cool area and we have no quests as Geralt there.

@Trireme if you don't mind, I'll add up to your excellent idea. What if we branch the quests here. While they are in the planning, the gang contacts Yen via Megascope, she suggests she has a plan to learn about Ciri (the banquet). Triss proposes the infiltration plan.

And we can only do one of them. We miss many interactions if we don't go to Skellige right away, the ball, the race, unicorns, etc and we only learn of the king's makers quest by talking to Al Crate later. But on the other hand we gain great moments with the gang Triss, Zoltan, Dandelion and Priscilla (assuming this happens before Carnal Sins). Good enough reason to do two playthroughs.

And, if we follow Yen's plan, but in this scenario, after we spend some time in skelligue (possibly even after breaking the wish) the situation in Novigrad heats up and Triss requests our help.

 

[KrazyK785]

They really missed good opportunities in Novigrad with Triss, Priscilla, Dandelion, and Zoltan. Those 4 drinking in the tavern together would have been great.

The way I would have designed the Novigrad main quest is this:

>Triss + Geralt kill Menge and learn where Dandelion.
>Geralt goes to Priscilla for help finding Dudu
>Triss comes to the play with Zoltan and makes fun of Geralt
>Triss joins Zoltan and Geralt for the ambush on the road
>Once Dandelion is rescued the whole group returns to Dandelion's tavern to figure out next move
>>In the Tavern: Plan to sneak Triss into Temple Square so she can find out where Ciri teleported
>>Optional: spend a few hours drinking and catching up to celebrate Dandelion's freedom, stories about book and earlier game events
>Temple Square: create a diversion while Triss goes to Ciri's teleport site to find out where she went
>Wild Hunt senses Triss using magic on Ciri's portal and shows up to investigate with navigator + a few warriors
>Kill the Hunt unit and escape
>Triss tells Geralt that Ciri returned to Skellige
>"Desecration" of Novigrad Temple grounds leads to harsher crackdown on the mages in Novigrad (the checkpoints at the gates, etc)
>Now Triss needs to get the mages out -> Matter of Life and Death and Now or Never become available

Wow this sounds f*cking perfect... I would pay for this in a second

 

[Pryce68]

That is exactly what I did.

All of Velen then I moved to Novigrad for ONLY the pyres in the square scene then went to the docks and got the ship to Skelliga.

There , did the quest with Yen and then Last Wish, broke her heart and THEN went back to Novigrad doing EVERYTHING except the Now or Never quest. Saved it until the Brothers in Arms line.

It all made much more sense this way...and it was much better 'spaced'. But Act 3 and the lack of ANY Triss...was even more sickening.

EDIT: To answer the last part, sorry I forgot...

To any of our knowledge(pretty sure) no character in the game is aware of Geralt choosing Triss OR that Geralt has broken it off with Yen...that is the reason we are here...those inconsistencies are BAD for the game, mmmkay!

There is absoutly nothing different with the story in Act 3 doing it this way, whether you romance Triss or chose Yen...late game is the same.

I did the same exact thing. Finished everything available in chapter 1 and left as much as possible of Triss's quest-line for the last moment. It felt better that way. It made me feel less lonely and less bothered by the inconsistencies and plot holes. I definitely didn't have to wait for long to see her again.

I think what he/she meant was instead of telling Triss "I love you" at the port. We'd tell her instead "Let's try again". She will walk away, no romance scene. and she will only come back with Yennefer's request to help Ciri (Which hurts me a bit). After that, there is a very small possibility that after defending Kaer Morhen and heading to Novigrad that Yennefer and Triss have talked and she "knows" from Yennefer that Geralt broke up with her.
Which will make Triss feel uneasy because he actually meant it when he said we should give it another chance, therefore, you get a different romance scene.

As I already said. It's highly unlikely.

 

[WitcherOP]

I had start to collect all of the fanfiction and the explanation about Triss and Geralt relationship in here for a while. So i just arranged all of it and put it in word and pdf file

Thank to @Redemyr @msanx @DaWitcher @xE1NSTE1Nx2049 @Willowhugger @Riddlin @Pryce68 @CaptainZamzabam @Gerald01 @Pav94an @UndiscoveredAdv @WitcherOP @Merc616 and many great Triss fan i forgot to store your name :crybaby:

I am new to upload word and pdf file to the internet, usually i use mediafire. So if you can advise me about how to upload, i am gladly to hear it

file Word download link
http://docdro.id/154me

file Pdf download link (Pdf file is far more superior compare to Word file)
http://docdro.id/154mg

This is awesome, good job! I missed this a while back but the thread goes so quick. So here's me saying thanks for putting it all together

 

[Riddlin]

I did the same exact thing. Finished everything available in chapter 1 and left as much as possible of Triss's quest-line for the last moment. It felt better that way. It made me feel less lonely and less bothered by the inconsistencies and plot holes. I definitely didn't have to wait for long to see her again.

I think what he/she meant was instead of telling Triss "I love you" at the port. We'd tell her instead "Let's try again". She will walk away, no romance scene. and she will only come back with Yennefer's request to help Ciri (Which hurts me a bit). After that, there is a very small possibility that after defending Kaer Morhen and heading to Novigrad that Yennefer and Triss have talked and she "knows" from Yennefer that Geralt broke up with her.
Which will make Triss feel uneasy because he actually meant it when he said we should give it another chance, therefore, you get a different romance scene.

As I already said. It's highly unlikely.

Ooooh...hummm...well, I don't think I want to try a 'non-affiliated' Geralt run through. I did send Triss away on my first play through...did that one in level order. So all of Novigrad before moving on to Skelliga and Yen. I have told a few folks on here, they should make a point of doing the Yen romance at least once, if only to compare and contrast the two.

You will also be even SICKER when you realize how good the Yen-mance is compared to the Triss inconsistencies...very frustraiting!

 

[CaptainZamzabam]

All of Velen then I moved to Novigrad for ONLY the pyres in the square scene then went to the docks and got the ship to Skelliga.

There , did the quest with Yen and then Last Wish, broke her heart and THEN went back to Novigrad doing EVERYTHING except the Now or Never quest. Saved it until the Brothers in Arms line.

That what I just did on my 2nd play through. I'm in the last act now and I'm putting off the one last interaction as long as can. I have actually enjoyed the 2nd time through more but I also have noticed how much the last act is rushed, more so than before. The lack of interactions with important characters is the real killer.

 

[msanx]

That is exactly what I did.

All of Velen then I moved to Novigrad for ONLY the pyres in the square scene then went to the docks and got the ship to Skelliga.

There , did the quest with Yen and then Last Wish, broke her heart and THEN went back to Novigrad doing EVERYTHING except the Now or Never quest. Saved it until the Brothers in Arms line.

It all made much more sense this way...and it was much better 'spaced'. But Act 3 and the lack of ANY Triss...was even more sickening.

EDIT: To answer the last part, sorry I forgot...

To any of our knowledge(pretty sure) no character in the game is aware of Geralt choosing Triss OR that Geralt has broken it off with Yen...that is the reason we are here...those inconsistencies are BAD for the game, mmmkay!

There is absoutly nothing different with the story in Act 3 doing it this way, whether you romance Triss or chose Yen...late game is the same.

Pretty much what i did in my second playthrough, did Velen first (i loved that reference to Triss about Tamara's doll), then watched that scene with the mages getting burned in Novigrad and did the first 2 quests, did some side quests to level up, then went to Skellige, and did the quests with Yen before coming back and completing the Triss romance. Definitely made more sense to do the arc with Yen before coming back to the now or never quest.

 

[Riddlin]

That what I just did on my 2nd play through. I'm in the last act now and I'm putting off the one last interaction as long as can. I have actually enjoyed the 2nd time through more but I also have noticed how much the last act is rushed, more so than before. The lack of interactions with important characters is the real killer.

It is!!! I tried to sloooow down soooo much, took all the detours and side quests I didn't do the first time through...

You know, just a thought...we all keep saying rushed, the last Act feels like a sprint...you know, no one is really "pushing" Geralt. Avallac'h is the only one and even he says, 'take some time now...get your shit together cause there ain't any coming back when we leave...that's paraphrased and why I didn't use spoiler tags

I think it 'feels' that way cause the pressure to get it done! I know the first time though I sprinted thinking when it was over I would have a really GOOD and rewarding 'goodbye scene' with the girls I cared for...I mean, Ciri got to go through and get all her stuff done, pay peoples a visit and say bye...but Geralt doesn't get that kind of consideration. I'm getting mad thinking about it...

I believe they could add something in, an expansion or DLC into the story, in Skelliga, when the boat is docked, before sailing for the end fight. Why NOT have something there...we don't have a timer running. The days don't mean squat to Avallac'h or Ciri or the others...why couldn't they place a Paid Expansion down in that time?

 

[Scholdarr.452]

You can get more Triss - if we get more Yen.

:spell:

 

[Riddlin]

You can get more Triss - if we get more Yen.

:spell:

Well, you got your Yen in my Triss!

No, you got your Triss in my Yen...

Can't we all just get along...

EDIT: But on a serious note, the only thing I think Triss is owed is a chance at one more intimate scene. Other than that, anything Triss gets, I am PERFECTLY happy Yen getting something too. Simple as that!