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The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

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The Triss content and the inconsistency of our romance's choice

  • Dissatisfied from the lack of Triss content and want more

    Votes: 1,194 85.3%
  • I don't care at all

    Votes: 40 2.9%
  • There was enough of Triss in the game

    Votes: 128 9.1%
  • I don't like Triss

    Votes: 38 2.7%

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Riddlin

Riddlin

Senior user
#8,941
Jul 2, 2015
Trinitao said:
Sure hope it wasn't the bacon that got u in hospital!;)
just kiddin mate, hope u get better soon!
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Thanks...its my wife. More tests and meds first but...well, THIS news didn't make her feel any better but I am feeling oddly guilty at the moment... :(
 
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swordsandroses

Senior user
#8,942
Jul 2, 2015
Congratulations to the Order of the Flaming Triss, you did it guys!

Is this the first case of CDPR acting on a story based fan request?
 
Riddlin

Riddlin

Senior user
#8,943
Jul 2, 2015
@GingerEffect

Hey, just a quick question, hope you have time to answer but if not, understandable...this place turned kinda nutty of late...

Should we continue as usual here or should be tamp it down? Any reason to keep working the 'problem' anymore?

And thanks so much for stopping by when you did!
 
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Jamesjford77

Banned
#8,944
Jul 2, 2015
Marcin Momot said:
Just to let everyone know. We pay very close attention to everything you guys write in this thread. We will be addressing this situation by adding/changing some dialogue stuff in the future - more info on this will come later so pardon my scarce input for the time being. This should help with the immersion. And once again, thank you all for your valuable feedback.
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Give us a kiss!
seeing what you said made me feel so happy and I jumped so high I hit the chandelier, I can't help but feel you're responsible for that.
 
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KrazyK785

Rookie
#8,945
Jul 2, 2015
@Riddlin Damn that sucks mate. I wish you and your wife nothing but the best...
 
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TheProcrastinator

Forum regular
#8,946
Jul 2, 2015
Stormrage said:
I've stated it before. I just feel tweaking/fixing Triss's romance/dialogue, means resources dedicated to other things, may be rerouted. For example, scheduling an appointment with voice actors costs more than you'd think. I'd rather have CDPR use that money, to restore more content cut out off the game due to budget/time constraints.
The vibe they are getting from these kinds of threads (or at least this is what I assume), is that people care about romancing characters first and foremost, everything else, is second to that.
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Not "romancing characters", but "characters". As it happens Triss is important to the game's setting. Important by CDPR's own admission, since they were the ones to introduce her romance option in the first place, even though this whole game saga could just as easily been only about Yennefer. So spending resources on her, would not be giving in to some demands of a silly romance, but rather giving a proper send off to a character that was given so much time, and then written of with a silly "well?".

I agree that there are many characters in the final chapter that could use some more game-time, but as far as spending resources on someone, Triss is far from the worst choice.


Stormrage said:
This is not a Bioware "waifu simulator", and Triss barely has any content in the books, and I'd say CDPR pretty much built her personality from the ground up in the previous Witcher games. Maybe that's why they grew so attached to her and even went ahead and gave the player a choice between Triss and Yen. And, let's be honest, the only memories Geralt has of Triss from before his amnesia is: using magic to trick him into getting in the sack together (and Geralt isn't one to need much convincing, especially just after he breaks up, let alone the use of magic), and him carrying her into the forest and wiping after her every few hours. I get that most people playing the game didn't read the books and are attached to Triss because she was heavily featured in the previous games, and for the same reason nobody really cares for Yen or Ciri, because why would they? Who do they think they are, appearing in the 3rd game out of nowhere?
What's next? Turning the Touissant expansion into the Citadel DLC, where you can romance your waifus with additional lovey-dovey dialogue and "intimate interactions"?
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First of all, the whole "Yen is Geralt's true love". Not really. Not anymore at least. I mean sure, Sapkowski definitely wrote the two of them as a pair that belong with each other, but time moved forward, storyline moved forward. Characters changed, their motives changed, their priorities changed. Geralt is no longer cannonicaly bound by destiny with Yen, due to the Djiin subplot.

So the only thing that's left is whether or not it's really "in character" for game Geralt to return to Yen, couse she's the one he really loves. And that is highly debatable. First of all, just the fact that Gerlat had new adventures with Triss and more chances for relationship with her to deepen and bloom over the three games, would be reason enough to contest the "he belongs with Yen" theory. Just becouse Triss was only a fleeting romance in the books, doesn't mean that he couldn't have started to care for her more in the events of the game, when there was more occasions for the two of them to bond. The same way that people in real life are not bound for each other unconditionally, and connections between people can raise and fall over time (becouse again, the whole "bound by destiny" theme is no longer relevant).

Especially since the Geralt-Yen relationship was always a little bit toxic. That what made it interesting. They were very much in love, but it was one of those "we care for each other, but we cannot stand each other over prolonged periods of time". It was a relationship of contant intellectual bickering and one-upsmanship, of Geralt chasing after Yennefer and her almost always keeping him at arms lenght in one way or another. Of Geralt seeking Yen's approval at least partially couse he felt, she was "better" than him, and her not dissuading him of this feeling by being constantly so aloof. It's all greatly romantic, but it's also one of those things that doesn't have much chance of succeding. As such it's not unthinkable that over time, and in right circumstances, Geralt might grow to prefer the real, unconditional affection that Triss gave him, rather than constantly chasing after a woman, who in the end might always treat him as secondary to her own ambitions.

And finally, further exploring the romance with Triss in future patches/DLC's would not be a case of "CDPR caving in and listening to casuals", but rather a case of CDPR properly felshing out THEIR OWN IDEAS. Couse it was CDPR who came up with the Triss romance in the first place. The first Witcher game could have just as easily been written with Yen reuniting with Geralt after his "ressurection" instead of Triss. The Witcher 3 could have just as easily been written so that Yen was the only romance option, with Geralt realising they are destined for each other. But that's not the case. CDPR decided to put the option for Triss in the game, and to treat it seriously as well.

And by the way, personally I also think that from a storytelling and drama standpoint Geralt belongs with Yennefer more than Triss. I think the Yen-Geralt relationship in the novels (however toxic it was), was too strong and skillfully written, to be overwritten by the short fling with Triss in W1 and W2. And yet on my first playthrough of Witcher 3, I went with Triss. Becouse even though I knew Geralt's history with Yen, the short storyline with Triss over the last two games made me care for the character enough that I went against my "inner storyteller". And if a player witnessing the story can choose Triss over Yen in the spur of the moment, then it's not unthinkable that so could Geralt.

Or maybe I have some unhealthy thing for readheads. That's also a possibility ;)
 
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Y2HH

Rookie
#8,947
Jul 2, 2015
Riddlin said:
Thanks...its my wife. More tests and meds first but...well, THIS news didn't make her feel any better but I am feeling oddly guilty at the moment... :(
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This is a long thread to read through -- can you tell me what the news you're speaking of was? I'm new here. :)

And sorry about your wife :/
 
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Trinitao

Rookie
#8,948
Jul 2, 2015
Riddlin said:
Thanks...its my wife. More tests and meds first but...well, THIS news didn't make her feel any better but I am feeling oddly guilty at the moment... :(
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Ohh...piss... now I feel guilty, thats rough, sorry man, my best wishes to ur wife.
Just feel so giddy 'bout the good news in this thread.:dizzy:
 
Riddlin

Riddlin

Senior user
#8,949
Jul 2, 2015
DiogoGuimPT said:
So my hopes for a new romantic scene with Triss are dead right?
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If I had to guess, I would say we have two issues; 1) what can be fixed 'easy' and quicker and 2) what will take more time and resorces

I think all they are talking about here is the quick band-aid. Doesn't mean they won't revisit later farther down the road...keep the faith and hope alive my brother!

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Trinitao said:
Ohh...piss... now I feel guilty, thats rough, sorry man, my best wishes to ur wife.
Just feel so giddy 'bout the good news in this thread.:dizzy:
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DON'T! If anything I feel like pooh and I can't get this damn smile off my face...that's why I am hiding out back in my PC hut! :(

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KrazyK785 said:
@Riddlin Damn that sucks mate. I wish you and your wife nothing but the best...
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Thanks man, I wasn't wanting to share that...not then...but i was WAY too excited...sorta poured out. I would usually have a wedding night euphemism right there but...maybe later :D

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Y2HH said:
This is a long thread to read through -- can you tell me what the news you're speaking of was? I'm new here. :)

And sorry about your wife :/
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Hope this works...

http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/40694-The-Triss-content-and-the-inconsistency-of-our-romance-s-choice?p=1813923&viewfull=1#post1813923
 
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Jamesjford77

Banned
#8,950
Jul 2, 2015
Marcin Momot said:
I wouldn't go as far as calling it new content. We will be implementing small additions and tweaks in character dialogues that should please many folks in this thread.
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Please add an extra sexual encounter/Erotic scene to Triss... Its only fair since Yen has 2 and Triss's first erotic scene in the lighthouse is censored.

Edited to fix typos.
 
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Trinitao

Rookie
#8,951
Jul 2, 2015
....we all waiting to snipe the 9000th post?:ninja:


edit... :(lol never mind
 
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Belgarath345

Rookie
#8,952
Jul 2, 2015
Marcin Momot said:
Just to let everyone know. We pay very close attention to everything you guys write in this thread. We will be addressing this situation by adding/changing some dialogue stuff in the future - more info on this will come later so pardon my scarce input for the time being. This should help with the immersion. And once again, thank you all for your valuable feedback.
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Thank you very much. This is great news indead
 
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Archtects

Rookie
#8,953
Jul 2, 2015
TheProcrastinator said:
Or maybe I have some unhealthy thing for readheads. That's also a possibility ;)
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As do we all sire ... as do we all red*
 
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Y2HH

Rookie
#8,954
Jul 2, 2015
Riddlin said:
Hope this works...

http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/40694-The-Triss-content-and-the-inconsistency-of-our-romance-s-choice?p=1813923&viewfull=1#post1813923
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It worked, thank you! I'd really love some additional dialogue or content on the Triss situation. This was such an amazing game...I think I'm going to have to back and play it again ... I just worry because I don't want to accidentally end up with the story where Ciri dies, because that would upset me greatly after the first ending I got in which she became a Witcher.
 
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Wendk

Banned
#8,955
Jul 2, 2015
Trinitao said:
....we all waiting to snipe the 9000th post?
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ya, I've been waiting for it too!
 
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Scholdarr.452

Banned
#8,956
Jul 2, 2015
Jamesjford77 said:
please add an extra romance scene to Triss... Its only fair since Yen has 2 and Triss's first romance scene in the lighthouse is censored.
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You mean sexual encounters , not scenes about romance...

Triss has more than just one romance scene in the game.
 
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Archtects

Rookie
#8,957
Jul 2, 2015
red = best!
nuff said
 
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Jamesjford77

Banned
#8,958
Jul 2, 2015
Scholdarr.452 said:
You mean sexual encounters
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ya.... it's what i meant, sorry.
 
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Archtects

Rookie
#8,959
Jul 2, 2015
Scholdarr.452 said:
You mean sexual encounters , not scenes about romance...

Triss has more than just one romance scene in the game.
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i have to agree with sch, triss has many romantic scenes, i feel ike people are getting mixxed up with straight up "GETTING IT ON" and lovely romantic goodnes!
 
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KrazyK785

Rookie
#8,960
Jul 2, 2015
Wait...can a thread go over 900 pages??
 
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