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The Weather of The Witcher 3

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The Weather of The Witcher 3

  • No. It is fine the way it is.

    Votes: 29 45.3%
  • Yes, although the rain is more in need of a fix

    Votes: 11 17.2%
  • Yes, although the snow is more in need of a fix

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Yes, both rain and snow systems deserve a fix

    Votes: 23 35.9%

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Wolfmeister1010

Rookie
#1
Jun 7, 2015
The Weather of The Witcher 3

NOTE: This thread is not meant to insult, cause a graphics or console war, act as troll/flame bait, attack any individuals, users, mods, or devs, or dismiss the game in its entirety in any way. Rather, this is an informative little piece created using only fact and my experiences with the game after extensive gameplay focusing on this topic (watching rain for 30 minutes in a dozen different regions/locations on the map to properly evoke the scientific method and confirm a thesis). I am always open to constructive arguments and criticism, but I wish to not be dragged into a war. If you find my post to be unacceptable or in violation of a forum rule, please report the thread, PM me, or notify a moderator, but please refrain from attacking me in this thread itself.




The Weather of Witcher 3



Is anyone else kinda..underwhelmed by the rain and precipitation n the game? I mean, this "beautiful dynamic weather system” is one of the main advertising points, yet..everything about it is off.

I don’t know if this is necessarily a “graphics” thing. Just like how physx smoke, water tessellation..those aren’t “graphical” things like textures, lighting and models.

But it is a large LARGE issue in a game that relies so much on ambience.

The rain particles themselves are weird. They all flow in a uniform diagonal angle that is just really realign strange. The drops themselves slow down and curve a bit before hitting the ground. It doesn’t even look like the effects are hitting the ground. Rather they slow down and “dissipate”.

The shaders are terrible. The water impact effect on land is very very uninspired, with each little ripple looking flat, slow motion, and uniform. (each effect is the same exact small little expanding circle-and an insult to injury is how slow the effects play out). There is no 3d impact effect, which is incredibly disappointing. Many MANY open world games in the past half decade have been able to achieve something of this sort.

The combination of awkward, slow rain effects with awkward, slow shaders makes the rain seem..well..slow, awkward, and immersion breaking.

I am trying to say that the rain effects occurring on the ground and the ones occurring in the air look disconnected.

Rain drops clip through many walls and barriers.

The drops themselves are low resolution and strangely "white", not translucent like they should be.

The “trickle down” effect on walls during rain are horrendous, flat looking, and once again, weirdly slow motion. Slow seems to be a pattern here.

The trickle effect occurs on ALL walls during a storm, even the ones protected by ceilings or other barriers, except for big main buildings and points of interest, or buildings with doors. But, like, an area about 10 feet wide under a stone arch during a storm, the walls on the inside are covered with water.

Water impact effects on other bodies of water are completely missing to begin with.


Shadow of Mordor and GTA5 are games with exceptional weather and rain systems. The drops are properly lit. The particles hit the ground with satisfying 3d effects.

I find that a pattern in Witcher 3 is how flat everything can get. The shaders really are quite…underdeveloped for a next gen game, even a game of this size.



Then the snow is a separate issue. Mostly because there is no shader on the terrain for snow impact, making snow look like it is clipping through the floor. The particles themselves, once again, are barely even “particles”. Rather, most of them I have found to be pretty blatant large white hexagon and circles .

The flurries have no depth to them, while in earlier trailers the wind accurately carried snow particles in differing directions and speeds.



The weather effects are uniformly..slow, awkward, unrealistic, and curiously inept.

Luckily, a clear pattern is present, so fixing it is that much easier.


If worse comes to worse and this isn’t fixed in a patch, hopefully someone will decide to mod it. I have seen plenty of brilliant Skyrim mods pertaining to rain.




Thank you all for reading. I bolded the main facts and points I noticed in my research for convenience. This thread is meant to inform, and if we get a nice, constructive discussion going, it may even get the attention of some RED developer-gods who have the power to change the course of history itself!

---------- Updated at 03:56 AM ----------

Really? Did you really have to give my thread 1 star simply because you disagree, and not even comment on why you disagree?


Wonderful bunch you all are.
 
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etsubmariner13

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#2
Jun 7, 2015
I'd like to see alternatives to vanilla weather. I did see a mod already called Extreme Weather, but it's not what I'm hoping for personally. A real snowstorm, please! This new patch 1.05 did allow me to finally see the rain more often (as in, actually see rain itself). Thunderstorms are about right, but the lightning is also weirdly displayed.
 
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piripew

Rookie
#3
Jun 7, 2015
I love rain and water effects in games, its just a massive plus to immersion. I love rain IRL too :)

I actually think the rain is ok, about the only issue I have with it is the very white colour of the falling rain itself as its a shame its not more translucent.

However I can live with everything else, after being a massive fan of Skyrim its simply a big step up. Being able to see the rain through windows both glass and open is a huge plus and also being under any open cover the rain does not just clip through as it does in Skyrim which is a huge plus. Also the wet effects, on stone, wood, clothing, in water etc I find are pretty good.

I would give it a 6.5 - 7 out of 10.

Probably the worst part of the rain is where is been raining for 30 seconds only to then hear Geralt say, "Looks like rain " :)

P.S, I wouldnt put this post is not meant as an insult and then when you do not get the answers you want, exclaim " Wonderful bunch you are ". Its rather off putting. :)
 
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Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#4
Jun 7, 2015
So far, yes, I'm underwhelmed. The rain in particular is nowhere near what the last games accomplished. The storms in Red Dead are far more menacing and that was last gen. It's not terrible but I was surprised how much this aspect just came across as average.
 
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RAMPAGE572

Senior user
#5
Jun 7, 2015


I totally agree with you, however weather is just one underlined issue there are countless more that have been unresolved since launch. The loyal fans of CD Projekt RED need to wake up and start questioning them. Just because they give us 16 "free" DLC packs, that basically become worthless once you beat the game or are far within it anyway, doesn't mean they care about the current state of the game.

Patch 1.05 and nothing major has been fixed, saying performance improvements means nothing if you just say it...
 
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Liquidacid

Rookie
#6
Jun 7, 2015
The frequency kind of bothers me. I mean it rains constantly and for days at a time sometimes I don't think I've ever seen it go more than 24 hours in game without it raining.. I've begun to wonder why the peasants aren't building an ark to avoid the forthcoming world-wide flooding
 
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White_Wolf77

Rookie
#7
Jun 7, 2015
The rain in TW3 is a bit underwhelming and I believe it's got to do with hardware limitation more inclined towards consoles. I believe CDPR would go all out in terms of graphics if TW3 was meant solely for PC but it's not for a number of reasons.

We will see graphic enhancement for TW3 PC version in the near future if not done officially by CDPR, by the ever talented, free labor modders :animier:
 
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verdwhisper

Senior user
#8
Jun 7, 2015
The most disturbing thing to me is the lightning. It looks really weird and flat. Also, though this is irrelevant to weather, torches don't produce proper shadow.
 
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braindancer12

Rookie
#9
Jun 7, 2015
i am pretty happy with the weater so far.....
 
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ulti937

Rookie
#10
Jun 7, 2015
One problem I notice with the rain is that sometimes you can barely see any raindrops, but you sure as hell hear it. Or sometimes they only show when you face a certain direction, then disappear when the camera faces another way, at least I have this issue.
 
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aaron5951

Rookie
#11
Jun 7, 2015
I'd like to see the occasional rainbow; an occasional tree or limb getting blasted down by high winds.....like in real life, these things happen occasionally, but not every day.
 
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Wolfmeister1010

Rookie
#12
Jun 7, 2015
Yes, that is a very good explanation, it is very "white" and not very translucent. I didn't know how to put it into words, but you guys got it!
 
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SoloCreep

Rookie
#13
Jun 7, 2015
I have no gripes with the rain, water, weather. I am playing this on PC with almost everything on Ultra and the game is beautiful. Yes I have seen better looking rain in other games but this is a huge open world game "probably the biggest" and I think if they went with something more realistic, it would be even more demanding. It does not bother me at all how it looks and besides I think it goes well with the artistic style of the game. As for water, I think it fits well with the game. The ripples from the boat is neat but the coolest thing I have ever seen in water "in any game" is when you are about waist deep and activate a full circle Aard. The water all the way around you ripples from the shock wave and slowly simmers back down. I freaking love it. Effect only works with high and ultra water. I don't know if it works on consoles. I also love it when you do the same thing on land and the grass and weeds all bend over and stretch outwards and then snap back into place, pretty cool stuff cd projekt red. Also, the wind makes the game feel more alive, and for me, Its not windy all the time. Though certain regions do have more violent weather than other parts but that's a good thing. Nor is it raining all the time for me like someone else said. It does rain more than other games but its not overdone in a world with these regions and dark magic at work. Most games rain for 30 seconds once every 5 days and that's it. I think they did a bang up job on the weather and made good use of some effects. I can only speak with view from a PC with high/ultra settings. I have no idea how this all looks and runs on a console. Anyways we all have our opinions and they are not going to rewrite the weather code or anything else big like that. The game is made and it looks how they want it. Now its time for bug fixes and more content from the devs. Leave the textures, menus, weapons, weather, lighting and other visuals up to the modding community over at The Nexus.
 
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Wolfmeister1010

Rookie
#14
Jun 7, 2015
I do hope that this is addressed by modding. Not gonna say CDP NEEDS to fix it.
 
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Demoniko

Rookie
#15
Jun 7, 2015
Wolfmeister1010 said:
Really? Did you really have to give my thread 1 star simply because you disagree, and not even comment on why you disagree?
Wonderful bunch you all are.
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I didn't rate the thread, but I can see why. I strongly disagree with your point. Yes, weather in this game is not perfect, but it's still amazing. You created a poll, but it's strongly biased towards you point of view, so instead of participating in a poll people just downrated the thread.
 
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Wolfmeister1010

Rookie
#16
Jun 7, 2015
Demoniko said:
I didn't rate the thread, but I can see why. I strongly disagree with your point. Yes, weather in this game is not perfect, but it's still amazing. You created a poll, but it's strongly biased towards you point of view, so instead of participating in a poll people just downrated the thread.
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That is absolutely no excuse.


How could I have made the poll any different? I made a no option, and an option for people to voice if they think the rain needs improvement or the snow needs improvement. I wasn't trying to make the poll watered down with "biased" options, but allow for more self expression to AVOID the bias.

Nevertheless, just because you disagree with me doesn't give one the right to just bash my thread like that and leave without trace. Well, one obviously has the right, but it still really sucks.

I stated 2 or 3 times how this thread is NOT meant to create any sort of "superior" bias or malevolent argument or anything. Yet that's all you can see.

But, I keep my word, and if you can tell me how I could have made the poll "less biased", I will take note.
 
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Demoniko

Rookie
#17
Jun 7, 2015
As I said - I didn't rate the thread and I actually took option 1 (It's fine). But it's not how I feel really.
1. "It's fine" is an understatement of my feelings. I was amazed by weather in Witcher 3
2. But I still think there is a room for improvement here and there (like rain drops inside buildings sometimes), but I can't say that it's bad and the way you worded it the thread implies that by selecting these options I agree, that weather is bad in W3
So it is really not so much about the poll itself, rather the combination of the name of the thread, original post and poll options.
What I actually think it needs is a fixes to minor glitches (rain drop in buildings, some effects not working properly), and maybe improvements to ripples on water during rain. That's all. No revamp needed.
 
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Wolfmeister1010

Rookie
#18
Jun 7, 2015
Frankly, this thread isn't about the "amount" you love it, or hate it for that matter. It is about whether or not it needs an improvement.

If you insist upon having me create various hyperboles for each "yes" or "no" subtopic, then you do not understand the purpose of the thread.


And There aren't enough options in the polls for me to create a separate one for each issue, like clipping or drizzle or ripples. If there is ANYTHING that needs an improvement, that means that you click yes, rain needs an improvement, and then you are welcome to further elaborate by commenting.
 
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Demoniko

Rookie
#19
Jun 7, 2015
Wolfmeister1010 said:
Frankly, this thread isn't about the "amount" you love it, or hate it for that matter. It is about whether or not it needs an improvement.
If you insist upon having me create various hyperboles for each "yes" or "no" subtopic, then you do not understand the purpose of the thread.
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No, it's just the thread worded in a very negative way, that taking any "Yes" option suggests that you agree that weather is awful, while you don't agree with "No" options either, because there are some minor issues. While I agree, that weather needs some minor improvements, I do not agree that it should be revamped.
 
cyberpunkforever

cyberpunkforever

Forum veteran
#20
Jun 7, 2015
the weather is perfect as it is
 
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