The Witcher 1 & 2 : Worst game experience ever : crashing every 3 to 5 minutes

[robertfoo]

The Witcher 1 & 2 : Worst game experience ever : crashing every 3 to 5 minutes

Hello ,

I just registered to say that The Witcher is the worst fucking game I ever played in my life in terms of game crashes that I ever had the displeasure of paying for and it has brought me to the end of my patience , the end of my good will and the end of my civilised , positive attitude.

I have had it with these fucking game crashes happening every fucking 3 to 5 minutes. Played over 122 hours now , out of which 57+ hours were lost every time the game crashed the previous save also got wiped out without any fucking reason. After 122 hours of trying to play this fucking game I finally finished it. I am pissed off about the fact that this game and the second one as well! crashes so much. It's a fucking old game with shitty graphics that apparently my 2GB GDDR5 GPU can't even fucking handle.

Yes i run Vista and NO I will never ask my pc to share 3gb for applications and only give 1GB for kernel just to fucking cut you some slack because your lame ass company was too cheap to pay the programmers to fix this memory leak cap. How in the fucking world can't I play this fucking game on a 8gb ram , quad core cpu , 2gb GPU gddr5 I have no fucking clue. Every other game in the world works perfectly except this piece shit. The story is good but in all honesty I just want to say. Fuck these fucking piece of shit errors.


-Why am I raging so much ? Let's see I don't need your help because there is no help to be given with this problem. Searched about 4 days cumulated for any fixes that could help me and none worked be they Steam , thewitcher.com , GoG , Gamespot , Youtube or any other fucking website I could find related to bugfixes.

-This is 2013 and there's still no bugfix for this. Yes this IS a BUG. Yes it's on YOUR end not mine.

-I don't need you to tell me "Please turn off all your options and play the game like that" Because well ..fuck off I didn't pay 1000 GBP for my PC to play a fucking low graphics old shitty game on the lowest settings while my PC can handle every other one of the latest November 2013 games on Ultra High Settings.

-No I will not modify my registry so that I allow Kernel to use up to 1 GB RAM and allow the Witcher to use up to the max adjustable amount of up to 3 GB RAM because
I fucking use tons of other programs and also do editing with programs such as Photoshop CS 6 and Reason and I need my fucking RAM everywhere not ever going to change my RAM usage for a shitty game or switch back and forth when it clearly says on the Microsoft Website "use at your own risk" I beg your pardon what?

-NO I will not fucking turn my Antivirus Off to play this fucking game because this PC relies heavily on the internet and I do serious banking and transactions on it I can NOT afford a single moment where I remain unprotected and vulnerable to attacks or data theft.

-NO I will not go buy a new PSU because mine is a brand new 750W with 5 years warranty and can clearly power my GPU. It cost me 120 GBP alone.

-NO my GPU does NOT get any hotter or register any increase in temperature while playing the Witcher or getting the Errors.

-NO my GPU isn't clocked at all that's never the problem I don't overclock my graphics cards. That's why I spend a shit ton of money on them so I don't have to do that.

-NO the save game "bugfix" didn't help me either and props to you for making a game that does automatic saves while having a major autosave bug , and of course that can not be fixed due to the lack of option to turn autosave off.

-Oh and last but not least My PC runs any game out there currently now November 2013 on Ultra High Settings without any problems what so ever. It's your fucking game NOT my damn system. It's always been your game just look in google at the thousands of complaints and help requests with the endless number of bugs and errors. I wonder who's stupid enough to buy Witcher 3 without giving it at least a couple of months for others to test it extensively. If now after so many years you still haven't fixes for Witcher 1 and 2's both engines's same old Bugs people complained over and over about than W 3 is sure to have the same shit going on for it and I can tell you this. If you plan to make a customer out of this guy , you have to earn it this time.

-Why don't I even give you a chance to help me? Why don't I post my exact specs and hope for some lousy answers? This is why:
I have searched these forums extensively and by that I mean over 30 hours cumulated and have found zero actual fixes for this bug. Most of them stupid suggestions from Mods in here who also had the audacity to say "don't expect any fixes for this , if you want you should mail the tech team not post on the forum" This being said on THE ACTUAL TECH FORUM OF THE FUCKING GAME. As per usual , your people , mostly mods , always end up picking on the hardware people are using NO MATTER WHAT THAT HARDWARE IS. Be it high end in crossfire or SLI there's always some idiot to say something bad about those gears. Where the fuck are you people when Nvidia and Radeon make these GPU's in the first place. Where the actual fuck are you when the companies make these PC components such as PSU. I saw some mod even saying that PSU's lose their functionality and power over time what the actual FUCK .. a PSU will put out the designated amount of power for it's entire life span they don't just put out 300W while they are 900W PSU's. Your people are always blaming the hardware parts telling us that most of the components we are using are "dodgy" at best , no REALLY? And how the fuck does this work , thousands of people are complaining about the game's bugs and you still have the nerve to fucking blame our systems? You are only here to make up excuses and invent some God knows what reasons about our "malfunctioning" and "terrible" hardware while knowing 100% that's what you were instructed to say in case the problem rises up.
I also noticed a Mod saying something within the lines of "How should we know what the fixes are we don't make fixes we are just mods , people who come here doing voluntarily work". Nobody is forcing you to play the "mod" part on a website , if you can't do your job right then I suggest don't show up here in the first place.

I see your reply :

"For starters, this game does not have known memory leaks and does not crash without certain good and well-known causes. So we will dismiss the possibility that there will be any fix forthcoming to a problem that is not with the game software."

I beg your pardon? What do you call a trashy game application that asks for the max amount of RAM any windows can spare for a single application at one time? I have never met a single other game out there that does this. EVER. In all my 20 years of gaming. This is a Memory Leak Aka No Cap Limit Leak. You people kept shoving down our necks the so called "hotfix" of transferring more RAM to the windows's allotted standard dedicated RAM per application. What the fuck do you call that? You're not even making any sense you are contradicting your very selves with that statement. You see When I play Skyrim a truly open world game with extremely more enchanting graphics and a huge open world with so many textures and models my PC barely registers a 700-900 Mb RAM usage ON THE HIGHEST SETTINGS POSSIBLE WITH THE HIGH END TEXTURES PACK AND MODS INCLUDED while Witcher games jump 2Gb - 2.5 GB RAM now what the fuck is that if not a memory leak? I won't even bother including screenshots here you know that I'm right 100%. Oh and one more thing , are you familiar with DEP (Data Execution Prevention) ? Because amongst the ton of errors I get , i also receive this "legit" error that states : "Windows has closed The Witcher 2 in order to prevent damage to your computer". Now as we know : "Data Execution Prevention (DEP) is a security feature that can help prevent damage to your computer from viruses and other security threats. Harmful programs can try to attack Windows by attempting to run (also known as execute) code from system memory locations reserved for Windows and other authorized programs. These types of attacks can harm your programs and files.DEP can help protect your computer by monitoring your programs to make sure that they use system memory safely. If DEP notices a program on your computer using memory incorrectly, it closes the program and notifies you." Take that why don't you it's straight from Windows. It's telling me That Your Game is using unreal amounts of memory!

"Unstable motherboard. The power circuits on the motherboard have to make precisely timed voltage changes as the CPU changes modes. Not all motherboards do this accurately. Some of the worst offenders are high-priced gaming motherboards.

Defective RAM. Easy to miss. Just because applications that put less demand on RAM don't crash doesn't mean that this one hits defective bits in high userland that the others do not. It's easy to test RAM; do so before doing any kind of Easter egging with the GPU, power supply, motherboard, or CPU. "

No , I checked both physically and virtually with software and they are just fine and for your information if this was the case , I would have errors and problems with EVERYTHING else I'm using NOT JUST THE WITCHER GAMES! So you can stop that crap right there. A system is faulty if it's faulty on everything it runs not just on Specific Applications.


Worst Gaming Experience I ever had:
That's all I wanted to say. Thanks and have a nice day.

 

[duskey]

At 80 hours played, a crash every 3-5 minutes is 16 to 26.66 crashes total.

On a more serious note: This is the general Witcher discussion forum. You may want to check out the TW1 tech support forum: http://en.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?/forum/26-tw1-tech-support/
I can recommend checking the stickies which contain a lot of helpful information.

 

[gab961111.59]

did you check the support section before raging? You know maybe its a problem with your pc. You played 80 hours even with this problem so you like the game.

 

[Jobbert.907]

Instead of ranting you could also just ask for help. There are enough people on this forum who are willing to help you. You're not making a very good first impression with a post like this.

 

[ReptilePZ]

It's true though, The Witcher does have a nasty habit of crashing every once in a while, especially towards the end and optimisation isn't the best.

 

[CrimzonTearz]

At 80 hours played, a crash every 3-5 minutes is 16 to 26.66 crashes total.

On a more serious note: This is the general Witcher discussion forum. You may want to check out the TW1 tech support forum: http://en.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?/forum/26-tw1-tech-support/
I can recommend checking the stickies which contain a lot of helpful information.

....that is more 960 to 1600 times

Your math is atrocious

 

[William105.236]

Hello ,

I have had it with these fucking game crashes happening every fucking 3 to 5 minutes. Played over 80 hours now , out of which 40 hours were lost every time the game crashed the previous save also got wiped out without any fucking reason.

Wow, you have got to be the most persistant person I've ever encountered. I would've given up after one hour, or you know, asked for some help.

 

[GuyNwah]

We start from the assumption that members who write in with a technical complaint actually want support and do not wish merely to rant. So I'll move this thread to TW2 tech support.

For starters, this game does not have known memory leaks and does not crash without certain good and well-known causes. So we will dismiss the possibility that there will be any fix forthcoming to a problem that is not with the game software.

The usual cause of frequent crashes is unstable hardware or defective installation. The latter is more likely on Steam installations than on others. Tommy is the expert on Steam troubleshooting; if you got the game via Steam, I will defer to him on possible solutions.

If the game is not a Steam edition, and frequent crashes occur, the most likely causes, in descending order, are:

Overclocking beyond the point where the computer is unconditionally stable in all operating states and transitions. Removing all overclocks must be the first step in troubleshooting crashes that are known not to be due to defective installation.

Defective GPU or bad driver. We haven't seen too many bad driver versions since nVidia fixed Geforce Experience in their latest WHQL version. A GPU can be unstable enough to be defective for this game but not for other games or general use, though. The fact that it is new or large does not prove anything with respect to its quality or lack thereof. This game will find faults in GPUs that not even widely used benchmarking and torture test software will.

Overloaded or defective power supply. This is to be suspected in cases where the computer black-screens and restarts while playing. Most aftermarket power supplies are merely power-supply-shaped fire hazards. Only a first-class power supply such as Seasonic S12II, M12II, or X series should ever be used in a gaming setup.

Unstable motherboard. The power circuits on the motherboard have to make precisely timed voltage changes as the CPU changes modes. Not all motherboards do this accurately. Some of the worst offenders are high-priced gaming motherboards.

Defective RAM. Easy to miss. Just because applications that put less demand on RAM don't crash doesn't mean that this one hits defective bits in high userland that the others do not. It's easy to test RAM; do so before doing any kind of Easter egging with the GPU, power supply, motherboard, or CPU.

 

[volsung]

Guy: I think he has issues with the first Witcher, not the second.

And like you said I don't think either game has noticeable issues anymore, definitely nothing as serious as constant crashes. I do know someone who had lots of problems with a Steam version of the game and less with GOG's. Still, I think he had some issues that would have to be attributed to his hardware.

It's so easy to blame somebody else...

 

[Nephta]

That's a nice first post.
Though i kinda agree about the graphic problem. I can run all my game in high setting but not the Witcher 2, TW1 Had no problem of course.
I still dont know why honestly, and i dont really care since graphics aren't an important part for me.
Just wondering why i can run all my game on high even game of 2013 but not the witcher 2.

 

[GuyNwah]

You're right. Let's take this to TW1 tech support.

But the problems and their solutions are much the same. TW1 is unconditionally stable on stable hardware; contrary to superstition, it does not have memory leaks or uncorrected faults. It also drives the GPU wide-open throttle and is sensitive to badly executed mode changes. It also tends to run one core of a multi-core CPU at 100%.

With TW1, it's easier to diagnose an over-driven graphics card, though. OP, have you noticed artifacts on screen before crashes? For example, distant treetops being replaced by black rectangles.

 

[Sam44]

That's a nice first post.
Though i kinda agree about the graphic problem. I can run all my game in high setting but not the Witcher 2, TW1 Had no problem of course.
I still dont know why honestly, and i dont really care since graphics aren't an important part for me.
Just wondering why i can run all my game on high even game of 2013 but not the witcher 2.

Same here.
Ubersampling of TW2 takes a really big amount of power. Probably because of poor optimalization or REDengine issue idk..

 

[vivaxardas2015]

After 80 HOURS of playing??? Why not to ask for help right away? I wouldn't take this rant seriously. It was all he wanted to say anyway, so he is not going to be around.

 

[Eldanon]

Aren't you a ray of sunshine! I've had exactly zero crashes on the Steam version of TW1 so perhaps the developer is not fully to blame for your issues?

 

[Cs__sz__r]

It's true though, The Witcher does have a nasty habit of crashing every once in a while, especially towards the end and optimisation isn't the best.

Guy is probably a one post rant and gone, I assume.

However I did get this sweet jpeg out of it.

 

[tommy5761]

As far as I know the game does crash every so often but not every 3 - 5 minutes . But honestly it wouldn`t have hurt to ask for help before becoming rage filled as that solves nothing . And yes I run Vista with a quad core CPU and 8 GB of ram along with a 1 GB GTX 560 Ti

Now to the topic . Is anything on your system overclocked ? If yes then try turning down to stock clocks .

Also check your memory modules using Memtest or with the builtin memory diagnostics .

Finally you might try this fix .
There is an issue known as the IFO module error, you get that error when
trying to to change zone (mostly in chapters 2 and 3).
To fix this, you need to make some changes to your OS in order to view certain
files, first, if you are under XP, go to my computer, get on your C drive,
open the tools menu -> Folder options, View tab. In there, look for "Hidden
files and folders", click on show hidden files and folder. Next look for "Hide
protected operating system files", uncheck it.
If you are under Vista, go to the control panel and look for folder option,
the rest of the procedure is the same : View tab. In there, look for "Hidden
files and folders", click on show hidden files and folder. Next look for "Hide
protected operating system files", uncheck it.
Now, start the game, and load your savegame ( normal savegame, not quick or
auto ). Once it is loaded, press ALT-Tab to get out of the game, go to the
following folder:
Windows XP/2003: C:\Documents and Settings\\Local
Settings\Application Data\The Witcher\temp\saves\
Windows Vista/7: C:\User\\AppData\Local\The
Witcher\temp\saves\
In that folder, delete all the files that end with the .SAV extension.
Then go back in the game, move around a bit, save your game and reload it.
Hopefully your problem is now solved .

 

[Tolon]

The last times I tried Witcher 1 had exactly the same issue for me, though those gamecrashes were a secondary issue - the Graphics drivers crashed which sometimes could be recovered but at other instances of the error occurring dragged the game into the depths with it. Usually the issue got more and more frequent until the recovery didn't work and the game crashed.

I'll reinstall the game to see if this is still the case (and because I really need to play it again, with the anniversary and all). It always struck me as a driver issue with certain versions of the GeForce Drivers - god knows other games have those issues as well, despite claims to the contrary.


Edit: Just checked, the issue with the geforce drivers is still present. Updating drivers won't get rid of it either and turning off all Aero Effects helps to make it a little less frequent (every 10 minutes or so rather than every 5) but doesn't do much good otherwise.
Luckily until now this hasn't crashed the game, so that's an improvement. If the game keeps running it is merely very annoying.

 

[Tolon]

Sorry for the Double Post but I thought I'd bump this with an update.

I just tried playing the game in windowed mode, that makes the drivers - though again, not the game (not yet) - crash every 30 seconds give or take. Full screen is pretty stable but not perfect. I might try turning off the second monitor on my setup to check if that changes anything later.

Though I think the OP just wanted to scream out his frustration without intending to get any help or fixing the issue.

 

[tommy5761]

Barring any hardware malfunction there is something to try .

Right click the witcher launcher and select properties and in the compatibility tab put a check in the Run in 640 x 480 screen resolution . No it will not run the game in this res. but will allow the launcher to operate in a different manner .
Also select disable visual themes and also run as administrator then click apply and ok .

 

[Nephta]

Same here.
Ubersampling of TW2 takes a really big amount of power. Probably because of poor optimalization or REDengine issue idk..

Übersampling is desactivated for me, still have some problems : ) But it's okay it didn't bother me to play the game on med/low. Im here for the story.