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The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings Enhanced Edition available on Linux!

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berillions

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#81
May 24, 2014
Hi guys,

I'm new in this forum and even if i'm disappointed about the Linux version of TW2, the game is playable for me. With VoglPerf, i have FPS between 25-45fps so, it's not a problem. I Play at Ultra settings, i just disabled "Ubersampling" and "V-Sync" with Intel I5-4570 + Nvidia GTX770 + Nvidia driver 337-19.

I post here my message to CDP's dev who read the forum (and i hope this subject) :
If you decide to port to Linux/SteamOS your futurs games as TW3 or Cyberpunk, please don't use a wrapper tools like for TW2, port natively the RedEngine to Linux (Like 4AGames with MetroLL and Metro 2033/LL Redux at the end of this year)

Thanks
 
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wichat

Mentor
#82
May 24, 2014
Blessed are patients because the world Linux-based games will be theirs
 
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Licaon_Kter

Forum veteran
#83
May 24, 2014
Apparently CDP should make some sort of announcement soon, monday maybe?
"Paul Lesurf, May 24 18:31:
Hi,
We appreciate your help and sensible approach. Rest assured we are paying attention and working with Valve, the video driver team and CDP to address as many issues a possible. CDP have asked us to allow them to respond officially, so we will not be responding to threads directly. But do please continue, we are totally committed to addressing the current issues.

We will continue to monitor the thread!

Best regards."
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(he's talking about the Steam thread)
 
Vincentdante

Vincentdante

Forum veteran
#84
May 25, 2014
Licaon_Kter said:
Wasn't there a written rule that you never launch anything on a friday since support is down during the weekend and clients will be left hanging?

I hope CDP has some answers on monday.
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Everything is released on Fridays here in Europe. That's just how our retailers roll.
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#85
May 25, 2014
Mblackwell said:
Swapped the Display Manager from GNOME Shell to Metacity and FPS had a sudden jump way up to a playable level with High settings on 1920x1200. I'm guessing the application isn't properly telling the DE to not composite its window, exacerbating any performance issues.
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Yes, try using any DE which allows disabling the compositing. For example KDE / KWin (see http://userbase.kde.org/Desktop_Effects_Performance#Suspend_desktop_effects_for_fullscreen_windows) or something simple like OpenBox. Desktop compositing is known to hinder this native version. I thought Gnome allows disabling compositing as well, it's strange if it doesn't.
 
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Mblackwell1024

Senior user
#86
May 25, 2014
It doesn't allow you to manually disable.
GNOME 3 automatically unredirects some full-screen windows. Games (or SDL2) don't set the recently added _NET_WM_BYPASS_COMPOSITOR hint, so we fall back to heuristics: a non-ARGB32 full-screen / monitor-sized window that does 100 full-screen redraws in a row. If that happens, then the window should be unredirected.
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If they set the hint they'll force themselves to be unredirected in most/all DEs.
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#87
May 25, 2014
Mblackwell said:
It doesn't allow you to manually disable.
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I see. Too bad really. I never had such issues in KDE (with disabling compositing). There you can even set rules per application / window about it.
 
Aryvandaar

Aryvandaar

Senior user
#88
May 25, 2014
I already loved CD Project Red, and as a gamer and Linux who loves The Witcher series this is the best news I've had in quite some time. Thank you for showing some love to Linux.
 
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lechuck-norris

Rookie
#89
May 25, 2014
ReptilePZ said:
You can't get it for Linux anywhere else in the first place anyway. So you would have to know it's on Steam if you're asking about how you can install it, and not how you can purchase it.

Either way, I don't think CDPR are required to state the names of the retailers that offer the product.
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We can purchase the game in store (box version), and with GOG too. Sorry, but it's not written in the announcement (in the official website) that the linux installation is only if you purchase the game on steam. You don't understood, but other people have done.
Kinley said:
Odd, it should indeed be specified that it is Steam only.
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Thanks Kinley, for the link.
 
ReptilePZ

ReptilePZ

Wordrunner
#90
May 25, 2014
lechuck-norris said:
We can purchase the game in store (box version), and with GOG too. Sorry, but it's not written in the announcement (in the official website) that the linux installation is only if you purchase the game on steam.
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Before you purchase is it anywhere else, it says on that website which platforms are supported. So, regarding your first link, retailers should not be in the System Requirements, and for your second link, it literally says right there:

The Linux version of the game contains all off the previously released updates and content, so gamers can enjoy the most complete version right from the start. The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings is available on Steam.
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So I don't see any room for confusion.

Anyway, whichever version you have purchased, gog will soon be launchng Linux support for their games, so you should be able to redeem your key there and use gog's Linux version, when it becomes available.
 
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Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#91
May 25, 2014
ReptilePZ said:
Anyway, whichever version you have purchased, gog will soon be launchng Linux support for their games, so you should be able to redeem your key there and use gog's Linux version, when it becomes available.
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I wonder why CDPR don't sell their games through other distributors like Humble Store for example. Since they are already using Steam, they aren't like Valve who sell their games through their own distribution channel only. So in theory CDPR could offer DRM-free Linux version through HB, Desura, etc. before enabling Linux support on GOG.
 
ReptilePZ

ReptilePZ

Wordrunner
#92
May 25, 2014
Gilrond said:
I wonder why CDPR don't sell their games through other distributors like Humble Store for example. Since they are already using Steam, they aren't like Valve who sell their games through their own distribution channel only. So in theory CDPR could offer DRM-free Linux version through HB, Desura, etc. before enabling Linux support on GOG.
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They probably have some deal going with Valve, they did go out of their way to mention that it also works on Steam OS.

As for other digital stores, they're a direct competition to gog so I'd imagine they want to use TW to get more traffic on gog. They'd probably ditch Steam too, if it wasn't so big.
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#93
May 25, 2014
@ReptilePZ: Yes, competition might be the reason, but the fact that they use Steam shows that they think that reaching more people with the game is more important than attracting more people to GOG by making it exclusive, and if so, adding more distributors won't make it any worse really. I'm just guessing of course, may be it's like you said, they have some special deal with Valve.
 
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ReptilePZ

ReptilePZ

Wordrunner
#94
May 25, 2014
As I said, they can afford to ignore smaller digital stores, but Steam is just too big. Not selling TW on there would probably be suicidal, considering the scope of their project.

But for them to release TW2 for Linux on Steam alone, without waiting for gog Linux support to be in place, and to be promoting Steam OS, they must have a deal with Valve.
 
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berillions

Rookie
#95
May 25, 2014
Guys,

As CDP released TW2 on Linux (bad port for a majority), Linux gamers can hope a Linux/SteamOS port for TW3/Cyberpunk with a real port of RedEngine 3 or it will be only a dream ?^^

For me, even if i have a better performance on Wine, i think that CDP asked to Eon to port their game on Linux thanks to the wrapper for these reasons :
1- Maybe CDP has no money, time and people to port natively their old RedEngine 2 on Linux
2- CDP works on TW3 and Cyberpunk which use the new version of RedEngine.
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#96
May 25, 2014
@Berillions: CDPR obviously tried to reduce costs here, using VP / eON for the port of their past title. Their current efforts are concentrated on new REDengine and Witcher 3 / Cyberpunk 2077. Here I agree, they shouldn't try to cut corners and should make a proper OpenGL backend for the engine. And I think they will eventually, because they planned to license the engine to other developers, so poor performance is not in their interest at all.
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#97
May 25, 2014
Gaming On Linux review:

 
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Licaon_Kter

Forum veteran
#98
May 25, 2014
Marcin Momot said:
The Linux version of the game contains all off the previously released updates and content, so gamers can enjoy the most complete version right from the start. The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings is available on Steam.
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Why is SUMMER.DZIP ( Summer's Crown Shrine ) missing then?
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#99
May 26, 2014
Marcin Momot said:
Special notice:
Together with AMD, we are working to bring Radeon™ graphic cards support for the game but, at this moment, linux gamers using AMD hardware will not be able to launch The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings. We will issue a press statement when the drivers are ready.
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Some Linux users created an unofficial bug tracker for issues with Linux version of the Witcher 2: https://github.com/KillaW0lf04/The-Witcher-2-Issues/issues
Do you think it would be a good idea for CDPR to create an official one? It would help people reporting bugs into centralized place and tracking their fixing as well. The main point here is visibility - lot's of users probably will never find that unofficial bug tracker.
 
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Licaon_Kter

Forum veteran
#100
May 26, 2014
Gilrond said:
Do you think it would be a good idea for CDPR to create an official one?
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That would mean CDP would need to show it does something, using "Tech support" leaves them as a black box for user reports, maybe you get a response maybe not, having the Linux "port" in this state shows that maybe the heart was in the right place but the execution was way out there on the bad side. Also, ok the Linux port is a test of faith on both sides ( CDP and we Linux customers ) but come on, CDP had plenty of possible BETA users on this very forum of theirs, they could of gotten 10 users ( exclude me please 'cause I asked for the Linux version since 2007 :) ) to start the game, to report the real situation ( http://imgur.com/a/NuTrl ) and have them rethink this failed launch, reschedule for another 3 months, since this was not announced there was no expectation.


@CDP: Did you ever see an eON demo machine running the game proper, at least on par with WINE, presumably according to your contract? If you did do post those specs/distro/etc because it looks like no customer has this hardware+software combination at all.
 
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