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Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#81
Aug 17, 2011
I bloody wish they'd have found another developer to do the Xbox port instead of wasting time with it themselves.
 
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waltc.480

Senior user
#82
Aug 17, 2011
Evilswine said:
I'm a little confused as to why they didn't just put off release a few months and release a more polished version. I don't mean to be cynical but it seems like they are trying to look like the good guys by releasing the game early, then polishing it up quickly to the quality it should have been and getting praise for it. With the first game I believed it was an honest fix for a flawed game, but this seems like they're milking their good reputation. I'm honestly alright with how it works out in the end, but it just smells fishy to me...
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Well, your mistake is in believing that the EEs are released because the original games were "too buggy" and "not up to the quality they should have had when released." In fact, both games, Witcher 1 and W2, were both eminently playable all the way through prior to any Enhanced Edition releases. Several people commenting in this thread have played through W2 already, and I played through W1 prior to the EE release. So, if EE releases aren't "bug patch festivals" then what are they?

That's easy to answer. The EE for W1 was exactly like expansion disks that most game devs like to charge for, only CDPR gave it away for free--out of appreciation for buying the game! Ditto the upcoming PC2.0 for W2--it, too, will provide extensive game improvements of the caliber that most if not all game devs like to charge ~$39.95 for as "expansions." Besides new content, traditional expansions offer lots of game improvement as well. That is precisely what these enhanced editions offer for these games by CDPR. It only sounds "fishy" to you because you are looking at it in entirely the wrong way. Better not look a gift horse in the mouth...;)
 
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evilswine

Rookie
#83
Aug 17, 2011
WaltC said:
Well, your mistake is in believing that the EEs are released because the original games were "too buggy" and "not up to the quality they should have had when released." In fact, both games, Witcher 1 and W2, were both eminently playable all the way through prior to any Enhanced Edition releases. Several people commenting in this thread have played through W2 already, and I played through W1 prior to the EE release. So, if EE releases aren't "bug patch festivals" then what are they?

That's easy to answer. The EE for W1 was exactly like expansion disks that most game devs like to charge for, only CDPR gave it away for free--out of appreciation for buying the game! Ditto the upcoming PC2.0 for W2--it, too, will provide extensive game improvements of the caliber that most if not all game devs like to charge ~$39.95 for as "expansions." Besides new content, traditional expansions offer lots of game improvement as well. That is precisely what these enhanced editions offer for these games by CDPR. It only sounds "fishy" to you because you are looking at it in entirely the wrong way. Better not look a gift horse in the mouth...;)
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I also played through it before EE, and it was extremely buggy so I no idea what you're talking about. It wasn't an expansion either as there was nothing new except two missions which could be considered dlc at best. Many reviewers talked about the bugs, long load times, and crashing problems which many had (if you didn't have them good for you but don't ignore the facts). I guarantee you EE was a show of good faith to customers for a lackluster release as well as a gift to the community. You act as if these things aren't planned in advance. I'm sure they are adding content and making changes as a thanks to the community, but I know that it's also meant to increase PR. I love CDPR and respect them for the game, but for the unbelievably bad release which would signal serious issues for any other company I recognize that they have some issues in controlling technical issues. I'm trying to be realistic, but it doesn't change the fact that I love The Witcher 2 and think it's head and shoulder above many other games in terms of story and atmosphere. The Witcher 2 wasn't a gift by the way, I payed 50 bucks for it and was disappointed that I wasn't able to play for almost two weeks after release on top of the serious performance issues I had until the patch.
 
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Keloo

Senior user
#84
Aug 17, 2011
I remember that I've finished the first witcher before the Enhanced Edition and except the long loading times and crashing problems I had so much fun, it was such a memorable, exciting gaming experience. All those problems were there but I didn't pay attention, and I waited even 1 minute or more for the game to load, I didn't care, because the game was that engaging and exciting. The second game is far better, there are almost no loading times and no crashes, and the game played really well even at 1.0 . Some are really annoyed by the interface, and the combat, but I wasn't, the UI isn't the best out there, but it is ok, and the combat once you get the hang of it, it's so much fun and enjoying.

All I want is a more airy interface, cause the first one is too bloated, if you know what I mean, and it should have smaller icons, menus. Also I would be really happy if they would make you able to move while parrying, cause that was a bit frustrating for me when I first played the game. That would give much more fluidity to the combat, would make it even more dynamic.


Other than these things, more quests, items, or even a stand alone adventure would be fantastic.
 
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dmcaldw

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#85
Aug 17, 2011
Evilswine said:
Where have you been? The game was not playable at all for many players including myself because of issues getting it to run to begin with. Then the framerate issue made it impossible to play for many others until it was fixed after patch. Diss also convinced me to go back to my original statement that they should have waited. Also, I'm sorry, but to release a game that is unplayable then release patches weeks after with some new content and get praise for it does seem like they are benefiting from their good reputation and know it. If any large company had pulled the same things CDred did it wouldn't fly at all.
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Wrong Bioware or should I say EA got away with murder on Dragon age origins the game is better since the last patch but still get crash to desktop some times . I have dare I say Hp desktop 2.6 quad core with nvidia 9400gt . Funny I am happy playing on lower resolution in windowed environment and not crashing than not knowing when the next time crash is going to happen and know it will happen (DAO problem) . I play with everything turned on but uber and all blurring I took the trade off of playing in a window in small resolution with everything turn on it could handle in that resolution . I could probably play with everything turned on but at the lowest resolution possible windowed .Then I would need my reading glasses . ( have tried know I could but then experience lag everyone talks about )
 
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yuikami

Rookie
#86
Aug 17, 2011
MyselfCosmin said:
I remember that I've finished the first witcher before the Enhanced Edition and except the long loading times and crashing problems I had so much fun, it was such a memorable, exciting gaming experience. All those problems were there but I didn't pay attention, and I waited even 1 minute or more for the game to load, I didn't care, because the game was that engaging and exciting. The second game is far better, there are almost no loading times and no crashes, and the game played really well even at 1.0 . Some are really annoyed by the interface, and the combat, but I wasn't, the UI isn't the best out there, but it is ok, and the combat once you get the hang of it, it's so much fun and enjoying.

All I want is a more airy interface, cause the first one is too bloated, if you know what I mean, and it should have smaller icons, menus. Also I would be really happy if they would make you able to move while parrying, cause that was a bit frustrating for me when I first played the game. That would give much more fluidity to the combat, would make it even more dynamic.


Other than these things, more quests, items, or even a stand alone adventure would be fantastic.
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AGAIN SIR! You've spoken my mind! guess we're just too easy to satisfy. But yeah, I enjoyed the witcher so much since 1.0 even I'm very picky for rpg. The game is already very good itself and if they fix whatever the problem they have, that just make it even better.

I'm also playing nearly the lowest spec for this game but I don't face any lagging problem as some people have said. Guess it's just the PC then.
 
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glesson

Rookie
#87
Aug 17, 2011
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-11-the-witcher/719205

Developer Diary about patch 2.0
 
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Merwanor.767

Rookie
#88
Aug 17, 2011
Both the new 2.0 developer diary and the new Xbox trailer got me really excited.
And there are very few games that i have already finished twice, that can still make me excited with trailers.

In the new xbox trailer i saw some footage from a new cutscene or something, where you could see the kingslayer going after Demavend. I really hope this cinematic is put in the game. Looked awesome.

Everything from the 2.0 diary got me pumped. The new tutorial is interesting, maybe it is about taking down that cockatrice mentioned erlier in the game. But there was one thing that dissapointed me, the footage from the dark difficulty still shows the same loongsword in cutscenes. I am amazed this has not yet been fixed.
 
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Paul_cz

Forum veteran
#89
Aug 17, 2011
Finished the game twice, was planning to finish at least once more with Iorveth, now it is cemented - Dark Mode it is!

And Arena + new tutorial sound awesome too.

CDP still have no equal and keep pushing the envelope in customer relationship when other companies are pissing all over us (see recent squre enix bullshit with region locking DX3).
 
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interreks

Rookie
#90
Aug 17, 2011
Sorry but i am quite disappointed. The game needs more and new story! Better Chapter 3 and where is Chapter 4? Better UI and itemmanagement, better quality flashbacks...where is an intro and extro? Why level cap at 35?
 
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CalinTM

Senior user
#91
Aug 17, 2011
Interreks said:
Sorry but i am quite disappointed. The game needs more and new story! Better Chapter 3 and where is Chapter 4? Better UI and itemmanagement, better quality flashbacks...where is an intro and extro?
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I'm sure it will come, patience guys. :)
 
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Kaldurenik

Senior user
#92
Aug 17, 2011
Well i hope there is more larger and more improvement to the current game beside "Dark mode"
I mean i will probably play it again on Dark Mode but my question is... What type of "hard" is it? Is it stupid hard or the good kind of hard? Stupid hard is just to throw lots of enemies boost their health by LOTS and give them alot of damage. While the good kind of hard is where their AI is improved. melee protect ranged, they circle around you attack at the same time. Tries to attack you in your back etc etc.

Then you have the arena. It sound like it was thrown in mainly because of the console. Not very hyped about it sadly not saying that it will be bad or good or whatever.

The new tutorial do sound good not that i had any real problems with the game in understanding what to do. But i have seen alot of... sheeps that have had problems where they have no idea what they are doing and keeps on trying the same thing over and over again until they rage quit.

Overall i hope for ui changes, improvement to the combat and its targeting system (as it can be bad at times), the ai, QTE's preferably removed with some better system in its place, better crafting and potion system, rebalanced skills, better optimization, fixing boss fight bugs (if you think outside the box the scripted encounter dies, ingame settings, scalable blur / bloom, improved act 3.

Oh well :> Anyway i hope for more information. Do anyone know at what day they will show all the features?
 
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Keloo

Senior user
#93
Aug 17, 2011
Overall i hope for ui changes, improvement to the combat and its targeting system (as it can be bad at times), the ai, QTE's preferably removed with some better system in its place, better crafting and potion system, rebalanced skills, better optimization, fixing boss fight bugs (if you think outside the box the scripted encounter dies, ingame settings, scalable blur / bloom, improved act 3.

Oh well :> Anyway i hope for more information. Do anyone know at what day they will show all the features?
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I think you will be very, very disappointed, it's obvious they won't change that many things in the upcoming version of the game. I won't get my hopes too high if I were you. They won't remove the QTEs, they will have to work alot more then to add a new system, that can be worse in the end. They'll fix some things, and add the two new mods, people have to live with that, if not, well, there's nothing we can do. Some may agree with the changes, others won't.
 
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glesson

Rookie
#94
Aug 17, 2011
Kaldurenik said:
Then you have the arena. It sound like it was thrown in mainly because of the console. Not very hyped about it sadly not saying that it will be bad or good or whatever.
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Yeah, I think it's the arcady approach towards the console audience. Most interesting about the arena for me is the fact it will be an easier way to boost experience points and the new items in the armory, that weren't shown in the trailer.
 
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Kaldurenik

Senior user
#95
Aug 17, 2011
MyselfCosmin said:
I think you will be very, very disappointed, it's obvious they won't change that many things in the upcoming version of the game. I won't get my hopes too high if I were you. They won't remove the QTEs, they will have to work alot more then to add a new system, that can be worse in the end. They'll fix some things, and add the two new mods, people have to live with that, if not, well, there's nothing we can do. Some may agree with the changes, others won't.
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Ofc :) I dont have high hopes about alot of the things i hope for but i can still hope for them ;) :p
TW2 is a great game... But it could be even better that is why i hope for some changes to... for example QTE's.


MyselfCosmin said:
Yeah, I think it's the arcady approach towards the console audience. Most interesting about the arena for me is the fact it will be an easier way to boost experience points and the new items in the armory, that weren't shown in the trailer.
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Oh i thought it was some kind of "side" thing that had no attachment to the campaign but in that case im abit more interested... Abit :p still not super interested as like you said... Arcady version for the consoles :p
 
gregski

gregski

Moderator
#96
Aug 17, 2011
rtt132 said:
Yeah, I think it's the arcady approach towards the console audience.
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Request for the Arena mode came in originally on GOG forums some time ago from some hardcore PC audience. So consider yourself pretty wrong here.

Arena or "horde" mode is present in other PC-only games like Dawn of War 2 for example.

It's a score-attack mode for people that would like to test their combat skills, if you don't feel one of them - that's ok, but how about not starting another "OMG they sold out to consoles" thing.
 
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glesson

Rookie
#97
Aug 17, 2011
I'm not starting anything, I own multiple gaming platforms and I'm not a fan of the whole pc vs console debate, because every platform has it's pros and cons. I'm simply expressing my opinion. There are a lot of rumours that the additional content which was headed towards xbox 360 will be included in a future dlc for the pc for quite some time now. If this isn't it - it would be something else for sure. :) Yeah, there are horde modes in pc-only games, but there are also in console games, am I wrong?

It's good to see the developers are listening to the community for such things though. :) I wish they listen for the stortened chapter III also and add a few more quests in the future.
 
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daddy300

Mentor
#98
Aug 17, 2011
rtt132 said:
It's good to see the developers are listening to the community for such things though. :) I wish they listen for the stortened chapter III also and add a few more quests in the future.
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like you see on the trailer there are new quests! btw did he say in the video 2.0 version will include all 9 DLC's? hey wait a minute!

btw arena mode! cant wait!
 
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glesson

Rookie
#99
Aug 17, 2011
Yeah, I actually saw the little part from the new quest with the knight. :)
Also the 2.0 will include all 9 dlcs to this point.
 
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daddy300

Mentor
#100
Aug 17, 2011
rtt132 said:
Yeah, I actually saw the little part from the new quest with the knight. :)
Also the 2.0 will include all 9 dlcs to this point.
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Witcher 2 has 9 DLC's to this point? I'm pretty sure there were only 3 updates with 3 DLCs?
please explain..
 
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