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The Witcher 2 to use "'always online DRM"?

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username_2061769

Senior user
#21
May 31, 2010
Thanks for your answer Alek, I knew there was nothing to fear ;)
 
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MaarGan

Senior user
#22
May 31, 2010
Alek said:
I hope our opinion about the DRM is clear, especially after removing it in the last patches for The Witcher game. Nothing is decided yet, and still, it's a private opinion of the Namco's delegate.
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Thanks Alek,the opinion of CDPR is clear but unfortunately, that probably won't prevent Namco from using an unacceptable protection system if they consider it as the "only option".Anyway, let's hope these rumors are just rumors and we'll be able to enjoy the sequel of an excellent game :)
 
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Flitters

Senior user
#23
May 31, 2010
Alek said:
I hope our opinion about the DRM is clear, especially after removing it in the last patches for The Witcher game. Nothing is decided yet, and still, it's a private opinion of the Namco's delegate.Debates about any special protection system for the game is the one of last decissions to be made. We'll keep our foans informed, but since then - please do not worry about that. We don't want our players to face any inconvenience.
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Thanks alot Alek_I was hoping it was only whispers in the dark. I don't want my mother going though Geralt withdraws for W2 since she's only got dial-up.
 
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cjqnsnyc

Senior user
#24
May 31, 2010
For a game trying to build from the first games accomplishments, instituting this policy will not only stunt that growth, but it will also alienate the audience you've worked to build. Look no further than the other debacles this "system" has caused with other games. It would be a disaster of epic proportions, one CDRP or The Witcher will not survive.
 
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wynne

Senior user
#25
Jun 2, 2010
Alek said:
I hope our opinion about the DRM is clear, especially after removing it in the last patches for The Witcher game. Nothing is decided yet, and still, it's a private opinion of the Namco's delegate.
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Yes, exactly... after TW1 and its success without DRM I don't think you should even have to say anything, but I'm glad you did--stops some of the silly rumors and people jumping the gun on worrying. :) I think some of us are too used to companies that gave up on the PC, and didn't bother to get the controls right when they made sequels to beloved games.However, I hope Mr. Comte will realize that the DRM in question is anything but "better than nothing." Quite the opposite, in fact. Why force legitimate paying customers to jump through hoops that pirates don't have to? Then you're almost punishing people for buying the game instead of pirating it. If anything, requiring a registered copy to post on the official forums for TW2 and download special content like patches and construction tools is a better option. That sort of quid pro quo mentality seems to be working well for Bioware.Strict DRM sends the message, "We're scared of losing money because we think most of this game's audience are cheats who aren't wise enough to invest in something they like."No DRM sends the message, "We're confident in our product and believe that our fans will be impressed, and put their dollar vote to helping us make future games which are even bigger and better, so we don't have to put up a bunch of illusionary walls that will be cracked by clever computer geeks within a few days anyway."Mass Effect sold 400,000 copies in its first week on the Xbox 360 alone. Mass Effect 2, with nothing but a disk check and DLC/forum requirements, sold 2 million copies on the PC and the Xbox 360 in its first week. Dragon Age, same check as ME2, has sold 3.2 million worldwide as of February--it's just under Everquest in popularity.If Bioware's experience is anything to go by, then dropping DRM is the smart choice. I think incentives work much better than deterrents! :)
 
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Darrosquall

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#26
Jun 2, 2010
Alek said:
Hi guys! This is exactly, how the rumors are born :) It all has begun with the interview of the CVG service with Mr. Comte of Namco Bandai. He told, that in his opinion there's no other way of fighting illegal copying of the games etc. All other information are rumors and cause panic among players. There is nothing to worry about! I hope our opinion about the DRM is clear, especially after removing it in the last patches for The Witcher game. Nothing is decided yet, and still, it's a private opinion of the Namco's delegate.Debates about any special protection system for the game is the one of last decissions to be made. We'll keep our foans informed, but since then - please do not worry about that. We don't want our players to face any inconvenience.
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it is simple after all. Can you tell us that the witcher 2 won't have this drm ubisoft?
 
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username_2084980

Senior user
#27
Jun 5, 2010
W1 had great success without stupid protection because people is happy to pay for a good game and expects to play it without any problems after.Good internet connection is still real and very big problem in large part of Central and East Europe so even if they wish to pay, as the first time for the W1, it would be useless for them as they could not play it!From my point of view I do not have those internet problems but if I am supposed to pay for something and then been irritated by imbecile protection such is DRM while other will take pirate cracked versions and play it without problems - NO Thanks. I will not even play it. I will stick to the books - I presume that I will not be obliged to be online while I am reading my hard copy book :p
 
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Eoghain

Senior user
#28
Jun 7, 2010
I too, am reassured and I think it's a poor business approach, anyhow, to include this sort of DRM.As for me: while I'm looking forward to Witcher 2 (although I need to finish the original first, ahem) . . . because of the problems that this sort of DRM causes (as well as the effect it has on long-term replayability) I wouldn't even pay $5 for a game whose publisher employed this strategy.
 
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mettle

Senior user
#29
Jun 7, 2010
Alek said:
Hi guys! This is exactly, how the rumors are born :) It all has begun with the interview of the CVG service with Mr. Comte of Namco Bandai. He told, that in his opinion there's no other way of fighting illegal copying of the games etc. All other information are rumors and cause panic among players. There is nothing to worry about! I hope our opinion about the DRM is clear, especially after removing it in the last patches for The Witcher game. Nothing is decided yet, and still, it's a private opinion of the Namco's delegate.Debates about any special protection system for the game is the one of last decissions to be made. We'll keep our foans informed, but since then - please do not worry about that. We don't want our players to face any inconvenience.
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Thank you for that information Alek_, it's good to hear and alleviated my fears. My rear-hole is'nt all puckered up anymore. :)
 
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romany139728

Senior user
#30
Jun 9, 2010
It is possible to think that DRM has rescued from piracy Assasins creed 2?! Breaking of any protection of game it only a matter of time! The more strongly protection the is more than time!
 
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Infiltrator

Senior user
#31
Jun 10, 2010
Alek said:
Hi guys! This is exactly, how the rumors are born :) It all has begun with the interview of the CVG service with Mr. Comte of Namco Bandai. He told, that in his opinion there's no other way of fighting illegal copying of the games etc. All other information are rumors and cause panic among players. There is nothing to worry about! I hope our opinion about the DRM is clear, especially after removing it in the last patches for The Witcher game. Nothing is decided yet, and still, it's a private opinion of the Namco's delegate.Debates about any special protection system for the game is the one of last decissions to be made. We'll keep our foans informed, but since then - please do not worry about that. We don't want our players to face any inconvenience.
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The best way to fight piracy is to deliver a quality product, like the original Witcher.If you don't disappoint your hardcore PC fans in the sequel, I am sure that the game will be a huge commercial success even if it had 0 anti-piracy software.
 
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Flash

CD PROJEKT RED
#32
Jun 10, 2010
In Poland publishers fight piracy by releasing rich BOX versions of games with additional content for low prices. For example at the day of release, a regular TW version (not Collectors Edition) was offered for 90 zlotych (30$) with high quality, colored manual, walkthrough, a TW novel by Sapkowski, CD with soundtrack, DVD with promo materials like interviews, dev diaries, etc. Additionally if you came to a popular shop on premiere night you could meet devs and get their autographs, TW leash and TW bag.CDPR is a branch of CDP which is a publisher.
 
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username_2084980

Senior user
#33
Jun 11, 2010
Flash said:
In Poland publishers fight piracy by releasing rich BOX versions of games with additional content for low prices. For example at the day of release, a regular TW version (not Collectors Edition) was offered for 90 zlotych (30$) with high quality, colored manual, walkthrough, a TW novel by Sapkowski, CD with soundtrack, DVD with promo materials like interviews, dev diaries, etc. Additionally if you came to a popular shop on premiere night you could meet devs and get their autographs, TW leash and TW bag.CDPR is a branch of CDP which is a publisher.
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wow! Great!I would definitely be ready to pay that money for that value! :Dactually I paid more for much less for the W1.
 
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bobsbarricades

Senior user
#34
Jun 15, 2010
Flash said:
In Poland publishers fight piracy by releasing rich BOX versions of games with additional content for low prices. For example at the day of release, a regular TW version (not Collectors Edition) was offered for 90 zlotych (30$) with high quality, colored manual, walkthrough, a TW novel by Sapkowski, CD with soundtrack, DVD with promo materials like interviews, dev diaries, etc. Additionally if you came to a popular shop on premiere night you could meet devs and get their autographs, TW leash and TW bag.CDPR is a branch of CDP which is a publisher.
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THis is the same method that musicians are using to adapt to the new mentality that music is free. I, too, would like to voice my discontent at the proposition of using this 'always on' piracy prevention. I love single players games specifically because I don't have to worry about the internet and my connection when playing them.
 
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Bamsmacked

Senior user
#35
Jun 19, 2010
You know I can understand wanting to protect your property by adding the online DRM because if people really want the game they will buy it, but truthfully I think it will just hurt game sells...Not everyone has access to high speed internet so they wouldn't even be able to play the game, and I have a feeling in the future most games will have the always online DRM.Another thing why I don't like the online DRM is the privacy issue... I don't wanna always be online to play a specific game, especially in single player, and games like Splinter Cell Conviction saves all your games to their servers.I will buy The Witcher 2 regardless. Geralt looks amazing, the graphics look amazing, the game play from what I saw looks even better, and I am glad that Geralt has the same English voice actor -- I really think he did the character justice.But hopefully the always online DRM won't be implemented, the devs want to promote The Witcher and I think by having bothersome DRMs isn't the way to do it.
 
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azriel77

Forum veteran
#36
Jun 19, 2010
The only DRM I am cool with is steam(no added DRM), in fact I have not bought any PC games that is not on it. The Witcher is on steam, I hope to see the Witcher 2 on it.
 
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Eri94_user70

Forum veteran
#37
Sep 15, 2010
They could do like it was in GTA 4.You had to register yourself online, but after that free to play with no further DMR problems.
 
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fchopin

Forum veteran
#38
Sep 15, 2010
Juuuhan said:
They could do like it was in GTA 4.You had to register yourself online, but after that free to play with no further DMR problems.
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And what happens if you are a person without internet connection?
 
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username_2084980

Senior user
#39
Sep 16, 2010
I am definitely against game protections like DRM. Personally I will never purchase the game with something even similar to that.If the game is really great, like W1, people will pay the money for it.
 
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Eri94_user70

Forum veteran
#40
Sep 16, 2010
I think I speak for everyone when I say that DRM is horrible, messy and just in the way of everything.You get a lot more profits from people that don't have good internet connection, and I think it's the majority of the players.For example, Assassins Creed 2 DRM is horrible and I had a lot of problems with it, which showed me that I'm not going to buy more products from Ubisoft, on any platform.Like people have stated in this thread, the first Witcher had a lot of success even without the DRM, and it looks like it to me that the Witcher 2 will be an even greater success, WITHOUT DRM.If it will have DRM, I don't care how good it is, I'm not going to buy the second game and CDPR will have caused me great disappointment.Sorry for my bad english.
 
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