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The Witcher 3 and mounts, Mounted combat is a must, reasoning inside.

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Stiler

Forum veteran
#1
Feb 5, 2013
The Witcher 3 and mounts, Mounted combat is a must, reasoning inside.

With the recent exciting news coming from the latest Game Informer about TW3 one thing stands out to me, apart from the shift to open world is the inclusion of Mounts.

However one thing from the information it seems that mounted combat is still being "tested" and they aren't sure if will be a definite part of the game.

This is what worries me, and one of the WORST things about the TES games in general. THe lack of "mounted" combat makes mounts seem like nothing more then personal vehicles. HAving to constantly mount, dismount to fight, gets OLD super fast and is nothing more then annoyance.

A lot of times what comes up is "What if they don't want people fighting from mounts? What if mounts are op?" There are many many ways to balance this out.

Mounted combat should have both it's advantages and disadvantages. When you are mounted you (obiously) will lose from freedom of motion, naturally you wouldn't be able to perform many of your special combat moves (thought here should be some specific mount based ones imo).

As well, disadvantages exist, such as getting into "close" tight quarters, where a horse can be hard to control, in the middle of a bunch of enemies surround you from many sides, this is where you wouldn't want to be. on top of this certain enemies could have "counters" to mounts, such as long pikes, etc which can stop a horse charge, just like historical military combat.

If anyone here has played the excellent Mount and Blade games they do mounted combat better then any other game out there, I really hope the developers take a look at it and try to get mounted combat in.

Horses should be something that serve as both a means of transportation as well as adding nto the overall game, not something that annoys the player or feels like a "burden."

edit - before more comments are posted, Geralt DOES fight from horseback in the books, Blood of Elves is an example.

Geralt is not uncapable of fighting from horseback, and monsters aren't the "only" thing Geralt fights in his adventures.
 
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dragonbird

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#2
Feb 5, 2013
It's a sensible thing for them to say.

It's clear they WANT to do it, but if they've got some practical issues, then it's better to be cautious than promise something that they might not deliver. And they're they only people who can decide if it's possible or not.

And in the books, Geralt doesn't usually fight from horseback.
 
Aver

Aver

Forum veteran
#3
Feb 5, 2013
Geralt, never, ever fought from horseback. Being on horse make him unable to use his inhuman reflex, speed and skills.

Horses could be a burden? You can use your horse to stash your items! After problems with 'carrying too much items' in TW2 horses will become witcher's new best friend. Players will worship them!
 
gregski

gregski

Moderator
#4
Feb 5, 2013
There's already info that horses will be used to stash your items.

And no, I don't agree that mounted combat is a must. Horses in the Witcher game should feel more like our faithful companions in our Witcher duties, ones that we care about and protect, not disposable killing spree assistants.

So if we get into combat we can hop off the horse, kill what needs to be killed and then call on the horse by whistling if it wanders too far away(like it was done in Red Dead Redemption).

That's my personal view on the issue.
 
wichat

wichat

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#5
Feb 5, 2013
My own too.
 
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goopit

Forum veteran
#6
Feb 5, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kki8LhtnRw

Watch 0:15 to 1:00 of the video. Don't tell me you don't want Geralt to ride around monsters like that but we probably won't get big monsters. We did have the Kayran but it was a rather simple fight.

I'm thinking horses will be used to chase monsters that are too fast maybe incapacitate them so they won't keep running away, if ever we get mounted combat.

Mounted combat with people though, like other mounted Nilfgaardians and you can't really imagine Geralt having a battle mounted with them. He'd probably be better getting off the horse.

Geralt is pretty sentimental with horses,even talks to 'em.
 
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MarcAuron

Senior user
#7
Feb 5, 2013
Personaly mounted combat is not the primary skill set of a Wicher. There are a few scenes in the books wheer it happens but nothing major.

I would personaly like if leading the horse and walking next to it would be possible. Must be all that artwork, the RED's made,where Geralt walks next to his horse.
I would seriosly walk,while the horse is getting some imaginary rest from carring me around and my invetory. Weird I know.
 
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dragonbird

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#8
Feb 5, 2013
guipit said:
I'm thinking horses will be used to chase monsters that are too fast maybe incapacitate them so they won't keep running away, if ever we get mounted combat.

Mounted combat with people though, like other mounted Nilfgaardians and you can't really imagine Geralt having a battle mounted with them. He'd probably be better getting off the horse.

Geralt is pretty sentimental with horses,even talks to 'em.
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He also curses them when they don't do what they want. Which happens a few times in the books - horses don't really LIKE being asked to chase monsters.
 
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goopit

Forum veteran
#9
Feb 5, 2013
MarcAuron said:
I would personaly like if leading the horse and walking next to it would be possible. Must be all that artwork, the RED's made,where Geralt walks next to his horse.
I would seriosly walk,while the horse is getting some imaginary rest from carring me around and my invetory. Weird I know.
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They should definitely add this just for extra immersion also if you have a lady companion or somebody wounded,needs rest or whatever
 
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andrew93

Forum regular
#10
Feb 5, 2013
Well the biggest problem in skyrim's mounts (before the mounted combat patch) was that the unmount+draw sword out was painfully slow (especially when followed by two saber tooth bests). So i don't necessary want mounted combat, but a fast way to unmount and ready for battle. Like a fast jump/draw sword animation.
 
Aditya

Aditya

Forum veteran
#11
Feb 5, 2013
I wonder like in AC3 by just whistling Geralt's horse will be 'summoned' lol
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#12
Feb 5, 2013
This would be the first thing I'd cut to be honest. I'd rather they focus on improving the combat we already have.
 
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malakar1

Rookie
#13
Feb 5, 2013
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/02/05/the-witcher-3-is-official

You guys should get out of your caverns cuz....

The witcher 3 is official AND there will be mounts and mounted combat.
 
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AeonGrey

Senior user
#14
Feb 5, 2013
Geralt is a fencer/swordsman, he's not a cavalry soldier. Sorry. I've read the entire series twice and he never fights from horseback. He uses his horse to carry his weapons and gear and dismounts and fights. Perhaps if he were really in a dire situation I could see him jumping down off of it to fight.
 
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Jobbert.907

Senior user
#15
Feb 5, 2013
If I remember correctly he was fighting Squirrels on horseback in 'Blood of Elves'. Hunting monsters on a horse would be foolish though.
 
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M4xw0lf.978

Rookie
#16
Feb 5, 2013
Aver said:
Geralt, never, ever fought from horseback. Being on horse make him unable to use his inhuman reflex, speed and skills.
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Unless... it's a witcher-horse! The "trial of the grasses" would be a piece of cake for any horse!


But no, I don't want mounted fighting ;)
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#17
Feb 5, 2013
Malakar1 said:
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/02/05/the-witcher-3-is-official

You guys should get out of your caverns cuz....

The witcher 3 is official AND there will be mounts and mounted combat.
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They said they're testing it http://gamingeverything.com/39177/witcher-3-confirmed-is-next-gen-featured-in-game-informer/
- Proper mounted combat still being tested
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GZulu

Senior user
#18
Feb 5, 2013
Guys...guys. Just no. No mounted fighting. Geralt cant fight agile monsters from horseback. Nekkers would tear the horse apart!!! Poor Roach.
 
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prince_12

Rookie
#19
Feb 5, 2013
Mounts!? As in... horses!?

YYYYYYYYYYYYEESSSSSSS!!!

I'm as happy as a child getting a pony on christmas!! Horses where one thing I absolutely loved to have present in TW3! Thank you CDPR!

What's this? Combat on mounts? Not my chubby horse! He shall gallop through the lands and saving me from danger, not running at it :D
 
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goopit

Forum veteran
#20
Feb 5, 2013
Jobbert said:
Hunting monsters on a horse would be foolish though.
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Why?
 
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