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sidspyker

sidspyker

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#521
Jun 14, 2013
ReptilePZ said:
Yea, CDPR knows its core fans well enough to realise that they can't mess up politics. Or Geralt. OR ANYTHING




>__>
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CostinRaz

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#522
Jun 14, 2013
sidspyker said:
I think people have taken "slightly" a bit too extremely, lol
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He was also saying that they were going to tone down the politics to make it more accessible....

I want to take a bulldozer and smash through CDPRs headquarters because of that.

I freaked out because my brain somehow missed the "slightly", but even then well what do they mean by "slightly"? So I have my worries.
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It might just be them trying to not provoke a massive outcry if they said openly: Yeah the politics are going to be dumbed down big time.
 
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vivaxardas2015

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#523
Jun 14, 2013
CostinMoroianu said:
He was also saying that they were going to tone down the politics to make it more accessible....

I want to take a bulldozer and smash through CDPRs headquarters because of that.



It might just them trying to not provoke a massive outcry if they said openly: Yeah the politics are going to be dumbed down big time.
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Yeah, to paraphrase an infamous quote, when I hear "make more accessible", my hand reaches for the gun.
 
sidspyker

sidspyker

Ex-moderator
#524
Jun 14, 2013
I know what you guys mean...'appealing to a wider audience' always makes me shoot lasers from my eyes, but I dunno...I can't see CDPR doing that.
 
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KnightofPhoenix

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#525
Jun 14, 2013
vivaxardas said:
Yeah, if to paraphrase, when I hear "make more accessible", my hand reaches for the gun. />
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tsk tsk tsk quoting Göring.


Well last time we freaked out over this, we got assurances from the devs that they are not dumbing down the political elements of the game. I am willing to have faith in them for now.
 
ReptilePZ

ReptilePZ

Wordrunner
#526
Jun 14, 2013
Otherwise Nicolas Cage is going to plough you up. :p
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#527
Jun 14, 2013
Sirnaq said:
Sorry for multiposting but here, some light on pc requirements:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=sTkSGmLA1qM
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John Mamais isn't as enthusiastic as Gop was but he's a lot more informative. He seems like a good rep.
 
Geralt_of_bsas

Geralt_of_bsas

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#528
Jun 14, 2013
just calm down, they already confirmed that among the 3 main story telling levels, the second level will be the political situation, the difference is just that now it isnt the main thing unlike in TW2.

And guess what, this could be much better.

In TW3 the main story arc is Geralt's own story and problems outside politics, and this is a huge advantage, because it means that now the political situation will be unimportant enough to be made highly malleable.

Since its not the highest level of story telling in the game, now it can be subject to even more changes, consequences and decisions, because its farther away from the structured and scripted story that you absolutely must follow.
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

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#529
Jun 14, 2013
Seyu said:
This sounds rather worrying. The political intrigue is what made The Witcher 2, I wouldn't want it to be toned down especially after the premise on which the second games ends.

http://www.egmnow.co...er-3-wild-hunt/
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Woah...what the hell? They really said this?
 
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KnightofPhoenix

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#530
Jun 14, 2013
Geraltofbsas said:
Since its not the highest level of story telling in the game, now it can be subject to even more changes, consequences and decisions, because its farther away from the structured and scripted story that you absolutely must follow.
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That's what they could potentially do yes. Certainly what I am hoping for.

Or they can do what other open world games do, which is make it pointless and too simple as to become banal.

EDIT: which is why I'd appreciate a trailer like The World of the Witcher 2, or something that is tangible as to give us reassurance beyond just words.
 
wichat

wichat

Mentor
#531
Jun 14, 2013
As far I understood, maybe desicions which Geralt must take might not be directly political but will influence policy and development of it, in a way parallel to Geralt's personal path.
For example, help a stranger in X location for information on Yen or Ciri, but completely unaware of how this act will tip the balance to one side or the other until later in time.

I'd Love find this sort of surprise, having the freedom of choice but not the whole control of its consequences...
 
Geralt_of_bsas

Geralt_of_bsas

Forum veteran
#532
Jun 14, 2013
KnightofPhoenix said:
That's what they could potentially do yes. Certainly what I am hoping for.

Or they can do what other open world games do, which is make it pointless and too simple as to become banal.

EDIT: which is why I'd appreciate a trailer like The World of the Witcher 2, or something that is tangible as to give us reassurance beyond just words.
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yeah of course there is always the chance everything goes to shit lol

But i think that, after everything i've read, and all they've said, the guy from the interview probably asked them or mentioned about the politics being a little overwhelming for someone who's not very knowledgeable of the witchers lore, and so the CDPRED guy answered that they wouldn't have problems in understanding the game just within itself anymore.

Thats the meaning i think it had, all CDPRED interviwees have been very vocal about making TW3 more accesible, not to casuals or stupids, but to those new to the witcher universe.
 
Garrison72

Garrison72

Mentor
#533
Jun 14, 2013
I'm mostly relying on CDPR's reputation here but the basic premise of Geralt galavanting off to find his true love and saving humanity from the Wild Hunt, it doesn't sound reassuring to be honest. Especially when they say it's for easing new players into the setting.
 
Shavod

Shavod

Wordrunner
#534
Jun 14, 2013
Ow yes. because it's such a news that The Witcher 3 will be less focused on political stuff. They were talking about it in the first interviews for Game Informer already. They said that they actually love this political plotlines and they're not going to dumb them down, but at the same time focus more on Geralt's personal quest.

Well, I guess some Witcher's fans have a really short memory.
 
ReptilePZ

ReptilePZ

Wordrunner
#535
Jun 14, 2013
wojto16 said:
Ow yes. because it's such a news that The Witcher 3 will be less focused on political stuff. They were talking about it in the first interviews for Game Informer already. They said that they actually love this political plotlines and they're not going to dumb them down, but at the same time focus more on Geralt's personal quest.

Well, I guess some Witcher's fans have a really short memory.
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I think it's just a natural reaction that happens when you hear the word "streamline" about an important element of a hardcore title.
 
wichat

wichat

Mentor
#536
Jun 14, 2013
slimgrin said:
I'm mostly relying on CDPR's reputation here but the basic premise of Geralt galavanting off to find his true love and saving humanity from the Wild Hunt, it doesn't sound reassuring to be honest. Especially when they say it's for easing new players into the setting.
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Emmmm I rather Geralt trying to gather his family, and Wild Hunt bieng in the middle of his way... fighting them, not for saving the world but live his life once and for all. I don't think that CDPR make a pink tale about Geralt's world....
 
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vivaxardas2015

Rookie
#537
Jun 14, 2013
slimgrin said:
I'm mostly relying on CDPR's reputation here but the basic premise of Geralt galavanting off to find his true love and saving humanity from the Wild Hunt, it doesn't sound reassuring to be honest. Especially when they say it's for easing new players into the setting.
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Seven hells, you had to stick a needle, didn't you? (a joke, btw) Well, the major premise does not look too dissimilar from DAO, and we are against some pure evil bent of conquering our world. Now they come in flying ships (according to some previews), and if we also have ugly talking animals, we are about to play an anti-jRPG.

Never mind, I trust CDPR know what they are doing.
 
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Sirnaq

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#538
Jun 14, 2013
I hope the story is just as complex as witcher 1 at least.
 
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Chewin3

Rookie
#539
Jun 14, 2013
KnightofPhoenix said:
Well last time we freaked out over this, we got assurances from the devs that they are not dumbing down the political elements of the game. I am willing to have faith in them for now.
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Indeed, hence why I won't go banal over it again, but I would be lying if I wouldn't say that I am still a tad bit worried.

Personally I wouldn't go as far and say that politics in The Witcher is a crucial aspect in defining the game(s), but for me it is an element that I find very intriguing and praise worthy; that a game can offer such a convoluted level of political intrigue without having to overly simplify it to the player. I myself am no expert when it comes to politics, and it required several playthroughs, in depth game analyzing and KoP's blogs until I finally managed to get a complete understanding of the events in TW2.

And such an experience is something that I truly welcome. I am content with TW3 not being as grand on the political aspect as in the previous installment, but I still hope that the game will have that realistic portrayal of war as possible and not divide it into, e.g. dichotomies. And at least an import matter that I wish is present in the game, is that it actually shows what's going on and not merely tells us of the events occurring.
 
Gilrond-i-Virdan

Gilrond-i-Virdan

Forum veteran
#540
Jun 14, 2013
I welcome more witcher work and less politics, but it doesn't mean no politics at all. TW1 had a good balance, and TW2 leaned towards more politics (having a rather poor bestiary even). TW3 will be more balanced again. IC Geralt doesn't care about politics, but is constantly dragged into different quarrels by circumstances.
 
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