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iisvloi

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#541
Jun 14, 2013
NotUS said:
Does the world appear huge? Are the vistas as impressive as Skyrim.
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No, it will be even better!
 
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KnightofPhoenix

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#542
Jun 14, 2013
Gilrond said:
I welcome more witcher work and less politics, but it doesn't mean no politics at all. TW1 had a good balance
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I will disagree with that. The politics of TW1 were good in that they portrayed the main thing going on being which is the Scoia'Tael vs Order conflict pretty well (as opposed to the plethora of things happening in TW2). But regional and international politics were very very small if non-existent (and most of what we see in that regard, like Fotlest and Radovid discussions, is more humorous than anything else).

So let's just say that if TW3's political element is on the same level of TW1, I will be disappointed.
 
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vivaxardas2015

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#543
Jun 14, 2013
I feel that when they were making TW1, CDPR were not influenced by Matrin's ASoIaF at all. But a plot in TW2 is clearly inspired by ASoIaF. It is impressive that a story in TW2 is not just a plain copy, but on the same level. It would be such a shame if CDPR revert to TW1 approach. It seems to me that TW1 is close to the early books of the saga, which are more humorous, and do not even start to approach dark fantasy genre.

With the Lodge still not destroyed, nilfgaardians trying to win the war, northern kings ready to make land grab deals with Nilfgaard, a lot of opportunities for non-humans and other interested parties to carve their own state, and patriots fighting against invaders and looking for alliances, the situation in TW3 is actually even better suited for a strong political component in the story. To make it just a background for a personal search, and a fight with pure evil presented by otherworldly flying ships, would be a total waste.

Adanos, they shouldn't have mentioned flying ships. I feel like in a faery tale already.
 
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cmdr_silverbolt

Senior user
#544
Jun 14, 2013
GRRM takes heavy inspiration from medieval history, so it's not accurate to say that that TW2 plotline was specifically inspired by ASOIAF.

Also, I think what they mean by the politics being toned-down might be that the politics won't be forced on the player like they were in TW2, but the player might be free to get all up in that business if they so choose.
 
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KnightofPhoenix

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#545
Jun 14, 2013
Ok this is the second time I read "otherwordly flying ships."....what's the deal with that?

EDIT: agreed with cmdr and I say TW2 is in fact better than ASoIaF when it comes to portraying politics *pertinently*.
 
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Chewin3

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#546
Jun 14, 2013
vivaxardas said:
But a plot in TW2 is clearly inspired by ASoIaF.
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Just out of mere curiosity; on what level do you believe TW2 was inspired by ASoIaF's plot?
 
gregski

gregski

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#547
Jun 14, 2013
KnightofPhoenix said:
Ok this is the second time I read "otherwordly flying ships."....what's the deal with that?
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Wild Hunt crew rolls in them.
 
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KnightofPhoenix

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#548
Jun 14, 2013
gregski said:
Wild Hunt crew rolls in them.
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....what?

You're serious? They are a cavalcade...they suddenly acquired the technology to build flying ships? What?
 
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vivaxardas2015

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#549
Jun 14, 2013
KnightofPhoenix said:
Ok this is the second time I read "otherwordly flying ships."....what's the deal with that?

EDIT: agreed with cmdr and I say TW2 is in fact better than ASoIaF when it comes to portraying politics *pertinently* (not a criticism of ASoIaF, it's not deigned to be that political, politic is there to fuel character drama primarily).
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It is in IGN preview. They tell that the Wild Hunt comes in flying ships. Personally I do not like flying ships, and I hope IGN, as usual, did not get it right. But who knows? But eventually it all depends on how it is done in the game.

TW2 may be better, I do not argue with this. But TW1 is definitely worse in this respect. I would prefer CDPR keep their TW2 approach.
 
sidspyker

sidspyker

Ex-moderator
#550
Jun 14, 2013
KnightofPhoenix said:
....what?

You're serious? They are a cavalcade...they suddenly acquired the technology to build flying ships? What?
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Maybe it appears so since they're spectral.
 
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KnightofPhoenix

Rookie
#551
Jun 14, 2013
I swear I'm starting to hate this wild hunt more and more.
 
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cmdr_silverbolt

Senior user
#552
Jun 14, 2013
Pretty sure the witcher books are a fairy tale, so it's not that wrong for their adaptions to meld that line of fantasy and reality.

And would it be possible to include spoiler tags for details like this, I would have preferred to find out in-game about the flying ships :/
 
ReptilePZ

ReptilePZ

Wordrunner
#553
Jun 14, 2013
Don't worry guys, IGN got it wrong. The Wild Hunt is a bunch of spectral riders, not sailors. I feel like IGN got too excited about the boat.
 
gregski

gregski

Moderator
#554
Jun 14, 2013
cmdrsilverbolt said:
And would be possible to include spoiler tags for details like this, I would have preferred to find out in-game about the flying ships :/
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Sorry, it's been mentioned already in 2 or 3 previews and I thought everyone knows it. Silly of me
 
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vivaxardas2015

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#555
Jun 14, 2013
Chewin3 said:
Just out of mere curiosity; on what level do you believe TW2 was inspired by ASoIaF's plot?
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ASoIaF is the most famous Dark fantasy in existence, where everybody of importance dies or will eventually die (at least it feels like it). This entire approach - complicated plots, unexpected turns of events (Roche's men executed while feasting - RW everyone?), most important characters can die in different and not very appealing ways - it is not something you see in video games. So I am not saying that a story in TW2 is a re-telling of GOT, I am saying that the dark and twisted plot is inspired by a famous predecessor.
 
ReptilePZ

ReptilePZ

Wordrunner
#556
Jun 14, 2013
vivaxardas said:
ASoIaF is the most famous Dark fantasy in existence, where everybody die. This entire approach - complicated plots, unexpected turns of events (Roche's men executed while feasting - RW everyone?), most important characters can die in different and not very appealing ways - it is not something you see in video games. So I am not saying that a story in TW2 is a re-telling of GOT, I am saying that the dark and twisted plot is inspired by a famous predecessor.
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You do realise the games are based on The Witcher novels, right?

All of those things are featured there. Not so much in the first few books, definitely not in the short story collections.
 
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cmdr_silverbolt

Senior user
#557
Jun 14, 2013
@ vivaxardas: I don't think that association is strong enough to say that TW2 plots are inspired by ASOIAF. But honestly, everything we read or see inspires us in some way.
 
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Chewin3

Rookie
#558
Jun 14, 2013
vivaxardas said:
ASoIaF is the most famous Dark fantasy in existence, where everybody die. This entire approach - complicated plots, unexpected turns of events (Roche's men executed while feasting - RW everyone?), most important characters can die in different and not very appealing ways - it is not something you see in video games. So I am not saying that a story in TW2 is a re-telling of GOT, I am saying that the dark and twisted plot is inspired by a famous predecessor.
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Hmm, I guess you can draw that comparison, but I wouldn't go as far as state that TW2 was inspired by the books. The Red Wedding for example can be compared to other similar historical events (The Black Dinner, The Glencoe Massacre to name a few). And important people dying isn't something "revolutionary" in fiction / media. Certainly, CDPR could very well have been influenced by the books (though more so in The Witcher ones), but as a whole I wouldn't draw that conclusion.
 
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cmdr_silverbolt

Senior user
#559
Jun 14, 2013
My favorite example is valyrian steel.
 
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501105

Forum veteran
#560
Jun 14, 2013
vivaxardas said:
I feel that when they were making TW1, CDPR were not influenced by Matrin's ASoIaF at all. But a plot in TW2 is clearly inspired by ASoIaF. It is impressive that a story in TW2 is not just a plain copy, but on the same level. It would be such a shame if CDPR revert to TW1 approach. It seems to me that TW1 is close to the early books of the saga, which are more humorous, and do not even start to approach dark fantasy genre.

With the Lodge still not destroyed, nilfgaardians trying to win the war, northern kings ready to make land grab deals with Nilfgaard, a lot of opportunities for non-humans and other interested parties to carve their own state, and patriots fighting against invaders and looking for alliances, the situation in TW3 is actually even better suited for a strong political component in the story. To make it just a background for a personal search, and a fight with pure evil presented by otherworldly flying ships, would be a total waste.

Adanos, they shouldn't have mentioned flying ships. I feel like in a faery tale already.
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Ugh, no thanks. I would like more monster hunting work and the focus on that, not the endless and sometimes tedious stream of politics. The Witcher 2 become a bore at certain points because it would take you away from the monster hunting and keep on forcing you into politics every moment.
 
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