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The Witcher 3 easter egg referring to Cyberpunk 2077

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julianyan

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#61
Jun 10, 2015
(***!)Truly want CIRI in Cyberpunk2077!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ciri said she had traveled to a world looks furturistic.
It would be very funny if she is one of the character in cyberpunk 2077!!!
I am not talking about easter eggs, i mean a true character with plot:rebel:
 
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Matvs

Rookie
#62
Jun 10, 2015
julianyan said:
Ciri said she had traveled to a world looks furturistic.
It would be very funny if she is one of the character in cyberpunk 2077!!!
I am not talking about easter eggs, i mean a true character with plot:rebel:
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That would be awesome I think, and it even does make sense if you played TW3. I'm all for it!
:yes:
 
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JackofTears

Senior user
#63
Jun 10, 2015
As much as I'd like that, I doubt we'll ever see it, aside from an easter egg in some conversation or other. I would love to see a game about Ciri traveling the planes, however, and if it started in Cyberpunk 2077, all the better.
 
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julianyan

Rookie
#64
Jun 10, 2015
JackofTears said:
As much as I'd like that, I doubt we'll ever see it, aside from an easter egg in some conversation or other. I would love to see a game about Ciri traveling the planes, however, and if it started in Cyberpunk 2077, all the better.
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I think it will happen if more players request that.
In other games,maybe not.
But in cyberpunk world,everything can happen!

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Matvs said:
That would be awesome I think, and it even does make sense if you played TW3. I'm all for it!
:yes:
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yea it would be awesome,if a character with magic and sword exists in a world full of high tech machines.
 
Decatonkeil

Decatonkeil

Forum veteran
#65
Jun 10, 2015
You guys are to trolling what Shadowrun is to Wisdom000. Or something like that. I'm not good with words. I'm better with my fingers ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). You could say I have magic fingers. Or cyberfingers. Better yet, man meets magic and machine fingers. No, now seriously, they're natural, full essence and everything. Or humanity.
 
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Matvs

Rookie
#66
Jun 10, 2015
julianyan said:
I think it will happen if more players request that.
In other games,maybe not.
But in cyberpunk world,everything can happen!

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yea it would be awesome,if a character with magic and sword exists in a world full of high tech machines.
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You either didn't play TW3 or you didn't give a F* about the story, otherwise, you'd know why I mentioned it.
 
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Tramp-Graphics

Rookie
#67
Jun 10, 2015
Other than a brief Easter Egg, the chances of Ciri being in CP 2077 are nonexistent for one very important reason— TRADEMARKS AND COPYRIGHTS. Ciri is a character owned by a third party, not by CD Project Red. Theyre just licensed to use her character for one game franchise, namely the Witcher series. Cyberpunk as well is a licensed property owned by R.Talsorian Games. Therefore, unless both third parties specifically make a deal to cross the character over in more than an Easter Egg, it's not going to happen.
 
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Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#68
Jun 10, 2015
Actually, Tramp, CDPR has full rights to the Witcher property in video games. They can put here wherever they choose. Oh, look, a Ciri thread in my Cyberpunk forums. Merging with Easter Egg thread and reminding people that Ciri Fandom isn't very Cyberpunk and gets sent to Off topic.
 
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julianyan

Rookie
#69
Jun 10, 2015
Decatonkeil said:
You guys are to trolling what Shadowrun is to Wisdom000. Or something like that. I'm not good with words. I'm better with my fingers ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). You could say I have magic fingers. Or cyberfingers. Better yet, man meets magic and machine fingers. No, now seriously, they're natural, full essence and everything. Or humanity.
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sorry, i just dont get it.:facepalm:

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Matvs said:
You either didn't play TW3 or you didn't give a F* about the story, otherwise, you'd know why I mentioned it.
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i finished it and i did pay attention to the story, so enlighten me. [SARD EDIT: USE SPOILERS IF YOU DO]

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why the easter egg referring to Cyberpunk 2077 consider off topic?
This is dumb. Yea, i get it , this is the style of official forum.
 
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Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#70
Jun 10, 2015
julianyan said:
why the easter egg referring to Cyberpunk 2077 consider off topic?
This is dumb. Yea, i get it , this is the style of official forum.
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Oh, so adorable. Well, the style of official forum on the Witcher boards is to ban you if you discuss moderation in public,or at least infract you.

HOWEVER, I prefer slightly less formal behaviour over here for now, sooooo I'll tell you!

Just because something mentions Cyberpunk or 2077 doesn't mean it belongs in the official forum. If the bulk of the topic is better served Off Topic, it gets moved here. The bulk of the topic wasn't CPunk easter eggs - it was and became Ciri.

And Ciri is not Cyberpunk. She's not.
 
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Poet_and_Gentleman.598

Rookie
#71
Jun 10, 2015
227 said:
Oh please, everyone loves poet despite his endless, adorable wrongness about nearly everything.


I've always said that Kreia and The Rock have a lot in common.


You need to find a better fast food establishment if yours is suffering from a seagull infestation. Just saying.


Of course its gameplay is bad by FPS standards. It isn't one. And it clearly draws inspiration from the Bond/Mission Impossible school of spying, including ridiculous characters/situations and backstabs galore. The story makes perfect sense when you view it through that prism instead of going in expecting some kind of boringly plausible spy game.


Are you trying to make me cry? It's not... sniff... not going to work. And how am I supposed to refute such vague statements, anyway? Those are opinions, not objective facts/examples that can be challenged. Come on.


The problem is that you seem to have a narrow criteria for what constitutes "good narrative." I don't think games require a Witcher-esque level of believability or moral grayness to check that box. I mean, Blood Dragon is ridiculous, but it's still a well-written homage to over the top 80s movies. The KOTOR games take place in a manichean universe where your alignment dictates what kind of force powers you have and impacts your complexion, but have great narratives while being true to that universe. Perhaps you're just intolerant and closed-minded?

And if Batman beat Superman and you had kryptonite, you would HAVE to help Batman. He's not weakened by it, so trying to help Supes would mean risking getting beat down by the Bat. Duh.
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The storylines in these games serve their purpose in the same way that narrative in action movies serve their purpose.

But the audience is after seeing JCVD, Bruce Lee or Arnie kick ass.Not the narrative.

Of course I'm intolerant and discriminatory toward forms of entertainment. Anyone who isn't has poor tastes and way too much free time. Of course, the criteria for good narrative is narrow. Good writing is hard to do.
 
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Tramp-Graphics

Rookie
#72
Jun 11, 2015
Sardukhar said:
Actually, Tramp, CDPR has full rights to the Witcher property in video games. They can put here wherever they choose. Oh, look, a Ciri thread in my Cyberpunk forums. Merging with Easter Egg thread and reminding people that Ciri Fandom isn't very Cyberpunk and gets sent to Off topic.
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They have full license to create games specifically based on the Witcher,books. That does not necessarily mean that they have carté blanche to use those characters in other games in other franchises. CD Project Red does not own the copyrights or trademarks to those characters. They're simply licensees. They don't own the intellectual properties out right. IT's the same with Cyberpunk. That too is a licensed property. A License only grants specific rights and proviledges spelled out in a contract. Anything beyond that must be approved by the owner of the IP.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#73
Jun 11, 2015
Tramp-Graphics said:
They have full license to create games specifically based on the Witcher,books. That does not necessarily mean that they have carté blanche to use those characters in other games in other franchises. CD Project Red does not own the copyrights or trademarks to those characters. They're simply licensees. They don't own the intellectual properties out right. IT's the same with Cyberpunk. That too is a licensed property. A License only grants specific rights and proviledges spelled out in a contract. Anything beyond that must be approved by the owner of the IP.
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Ye-ah. Well, back in the day, Andrzej Sapkowski sold the rights to Witcher stuff to CDPR - pretty much total, in fact. Total, actually, as I understand it. Maybe excepting books?

They can create new characters in the videogame, they can create new videogames like TWAG, they can do spin offs, they can really do whatever.

But wait! Also board games, comic books, you name it. They gots the rights.

Here, this might help, although anyone following the Witcher series already knows most of it:

http://www.polygon.com/features/2014/7/16/5884227/cd-projekt-the-witcher-3

""We weren't buying The Witcher," says Iwinski, referring to CDPR's purchase of The Witcher rights from author Andrzej Sapkowski. "We were buying a [story] and then we turned it into The Witcher, which became known all around the world.""

So, yeah, they can do whatever. Whatever they'd like, more or less.

Bet you dollars to doughnuts the Cyberpunk deal is very similar.

In any case, they are certainly allowed to bring one videogame character they have the rights on, into a world setting they also have the rights on.

Will they? They might.
 
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Tramp-Graphics

Rookie
#74
Jun 11, 2015
Sardukhar said:
Ye-ah. Well, back in the day, Andrzej Sapkowski sold the rights to Witcher stuff to CDPR - pretty much total, in fact. Total, actually, as I understand it. Maybe excepting books?

They can create new characters in the videogame, they can create new videogames like TWAG, they can do spin offs, they can really do whatever.

But wait! Also board games, comic books, you name it. They gots the rights.

Here, this might help, although anyone following the Witcher series already knows most of it:

http://www.polygon.com/features/2014/7/16/5884227/cd-projekt-the-witcher-3

""We weren't buying The Witcher," says Iwinski, referring to CDPR's purchase of The Witcher rights from author Andrzej Sapkowski. "We were buying a [story] and then we turned it into The Witcher, which became known all around the world.""

So, yeah, they can do whatever. Whatever they'd like, more or less.

Bet you dollars to doughnuts the Cyberpunk deal is very similar.

In any case, they are certainly allowed to bring one videogame character they have the rights on, into a world setting they also have the rights on.

Will they? They might.
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There is nothing in that article which says, or even implies that they bought the intellectual property outright. They don't necessarily own the characters, or story completely, Unless you've actually read the original contract, we need to conclude that the rights CD PRoject Red have are limited to working within the parameters established by the original books, which is how I read the article. And, from my understanding of Mike Pondsmith's interviews about CP 2077, the same is true for his property.
 
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julianyan

Rookie
#75
Jun 11, 2015
Sardukhar said:
Oh, so adorable. Well, the style of official forum on the Witcher boards is to ban you if you discuss moderation in public,or at least infract you.

HOWEVER, I prefer slightly less formal behaviour over here for now, sooooo I'll tell you!

Just because something mentions Cyberpunk or 2077 doesn't mean it belongs in the official forum. If the bulk of the topic is better served Off Topic, it gets moved here. The bulk of the topic wasn't CPunk easter eggs - it was and became Ciri.

And Ciri is not Cyberpunk. She's not.
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I don't think so.
I am not just talking about easter egg of witcher 3, and also pointing out putting a witcher 3 character in cyberpunk 2077 to make this game more funny, discussing how cyberpunk 2077 game can use this character.
I think this topic can be on both witcher 3 forum or cyberpunk forum, sometimes these official forums follow the rules too much doing something pointless.
 
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pacmac84

Rookie
#76
Jun 11, 2015
Sardukhar said:
No, no. We only autoban for bad people. And anyone with "mac" in their name. Hate that.
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autobahn is the german highway (go as fast as u like) FYI

my name is marcus so mac isnt apple associated.. and i have a pacman tattoo
 
Nars

Nars

Moderator
#77
Jun 11, 2015
Tramp-Graphics said:
There is nothing in that article which says, or even implies that they bought the intellectual property outright. They don't necessarily own the characters, or story completely, Unless you've actually read the original contract, we need to conclude that the rights CD PRoject Red have are limited to working within the parameters established by the original books, which is how I read the article. And, from my understanding of Mike Pondsmith's interviews about CP 2077, the same is true for his property.
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http://www.bankier.pl/wiadomosc/CD-Projekt-Gracze-sa-wazniejsi-od-inwestorow-2908464.html said:
Czy macie również prawa do filmu?

Nie. Mamy prawa do gier, komiksów, gier tzw. bez prądu – m.in. planszowych, oraz do merchandisingu, czyli wszelkich gadżetów i pochodnych.
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Raw translation:

- Do you own rights to a movie too?

- No. We have rights to games, comics, board games and to merchandise, that is all manners of gadgets and such.

Besides CDPR multiple times emphasised, that they have full creative freedom in Witcher-verse. Unfortunately, those interviews were published mostly around premiere of first Witcher so I can't really find them today.
 
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227

Forum veteran
#78
Jun 11, 2015
One would think CDPR has the rights to Citi's character model since they created it, so even if they didn't have permission for an explicit cameo, one would think they could slip in a more subtle appearance without getting into any trouble. Besides, they got away with a snarky Assassin's Creed reference in the second game, so I don't think the laws surrounding all this stuff are a huge problem.
 
Sardukhar

Sardukhar

Moderator
#79
Jun 11, 2015
Yep. I don't think they have TV rights, either, iirc.

NOt to mention, if you've played the games, you already know that CDPR modifies the Witcher universe as they see fit. Add new characters, change existing ones, kill off characters, interpret however they like.

As 227 mentions, the visual representations of nearly everything in the setting is CDPR work now.

Sapkowski already commented on it, talking about how the books were the real universe, and nothing else was.

I don't get how in any way you'd conclude from that article - where they talk about new stuff in terms of games and comics - that they are limited to working within the original books. Have you read the books or played the games? I'd bet not, or you'd never have written that.

They do a huge change from the books right form the start, in fact. Huuuuuge.
 
Suhiira

Suhiira

Forum veteran
#80
Jun 12, 2015
227 said:
One would think CDPR has the rights to Citi's character model since they created it, so even if they didn't have permission for an explicit cameo, one would think they could slip in a more subtle appearance without getting into any trouble. Besides, they got away with a snarky Assassin's Creed reference in the second game, so I don't think the laws surrounding all this stuff are a huge problem.
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I doubt a small cameo would upset anyone legally, as you said CDPR owns the Ciri model and references to other games are hardly uncommon (tho that may fall under the "Parody" laws). The problem is unless it's ONLY a cameo you run into the vast problems of magic vs technology, and I'm sure that's a road CDPR doesn't want to travel.
 
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