The Witcher 3 on maximum settings on PC

[Sirnaq]

I bet it would be hard to max out witcher3 without titans on sli.

 

[CalinTM]

And I will OC it when I need to OC it. I'm not gonna void my warranty by OCing it now while I don't even need the extra horsepower. Like I said, not a single game in existence needs that much CPU power. In fact, most games are very light on the CPU and they don't even use my CPU's abilities such as hyper-threading.

And as I said, I need help if I want to overclock it. I'm too afraid I would fuck things up if I do it without some expert watching over my shoulder.

Lol, you can't void your warranty, 4.5Ghz @1.22V is the standard for all 3770k, all 3770k can do that freq with that volts, or even lower. when you pass 4.5ghz then you need to tweak the voltage.


@Sirnaq: I don't think so, first SLI brings more bad things than performance, maybe one tital for some AA/ubersampling, or some special nvidia effect/setting. The core of the game textures/shadows/etc. will not need a powerful gpu.

 

[GuyNwah]

Lol, you can't void your warranty, 4.5Ghz @1.22V is the standard for all 3770k, all 3770k can do that freq with that volts, or even lower. when you pass 4.5ghz then you need to tweak the voltage.


@Sirnaq: I don't think so, first SLI brings more bad things than performance, maybe one tital for some AA/ubersampling, or some special nvidia effect/setting. The core of the game textures/shadows/etc. will not need a powerful gpu.

PLEASE DO NOT CONVEY FALSE INFORMATION when responding to technical requests!

Overclocking or overvoltaging ('pass 4.5 GHz', 'tweak the voltage') an Intel CPU voids your warranty. If they determine on return that the CPU was damaged by operation outside its power envelope, they may hold the warranty terms against you.

If this is troublesome to you, you can purchase a "Performance Tuning Protection Plan." This costs extra; it is not part of the standard warranty, even on unlocked multiplier CPUs. It gives you one no-questions-asked return of a failed CPU.

The Performance Tuning Protection Plan being offered by Intel is a chance for you to experiment with the overclocking features of your processor without the worries of what will happen if you push the processor too far. The Plan allows you a single processor replacement, hassle-free, from our customer support. This is in addition to your standard 3 year warranty. In other words, if it fails under normal usage, we will replace it under the standard warranty; if it fails while running outside of Intel's specifications, we will replace it under the Performance Tuning Protection Plan.

Those of us who buy unlocked-multiplier processors normally understand that it is entirely our responsibility what happens when we overclock or overvoltage. We do not need people telling the inexperienced "lol, you can't void your warranty".

 

[M4xw0lf.978]

I bet it would be hard to max out witcher3 without titans on sli.

Define 'max out'.
Apart from supersampling, I don't see why a single highend GPU wouldn't suffice for highest settings.

 

[alextyc1]

There is a wise old saying:
"just buy a good cpu and dont bother with pointless OC that can fry your pc just for 4 frames more"

 

[GuyNwah]

There is a wise old saying:
"just buy a good cpu and dont bother with pointless OC that can fry your pc just for 4 frames more"

Back when the Core 2 came out, we suddenly had CPUs with huge margins in their power envelope. You could get 25% overclocks for nothing and 50 to 60% with not much effort or attention to detail. Many of those overclocked Core 2's are still crunching away in hosts that go years between reboots.

Even with unlocked multipliers at reasonable prices, more modern Intel CPUs just don't have the same overclocking bargain in them. They don't have the electrical margins, they don't have the quality thermal design, it's become a game that is worth only a small candle.

 

[AsTheDeath]

My two cents: if you do plan on upgrading to SLI, now might not be the worst time to do so, because the 660 Ti won't be in production for very long. The obvious advantage is that your performance increase will probably be cheaper than if you have to buy a new, high-end single GPU. The disadvantages are those inherent to SLI and of course there's no guarantee that 2 660 Ti's will be able to max TW3; especially since the next console generation will have loads of memory and you're stuck with your 2 or 3 GB (you don't get more VRAM when SLI'ing).

So getting a second 660 Ti is not necessarily a bad idea, but if you want to upgrade to a single GPU for the reasons mentioned above I'd suggest you wait until closer to TW3's release date as you'll definitely get more value for your money then.

 

[Krisk7]

I guess you are saying about maxing out on 1920 * 1080. Please consider that next year a lot of people will be showing TW3 played on 2560 * 1440 and 3840 * 2160 (4K) and you will probably want to play it this way

So ... wait ... new cards from both NVIDIA and AMD will be coming in the next months. TW3 specifications will be available next year. Then you should be able to sell your card and buy say two second hand GTX680s or GTX770s and run in SLI ... and I don't think it will be good enough for MAX on 4K, but for Full HD it might be enough.

 

[alextyc1]

Back when the Core 2 came out, we suddenly had CPUs with huge margins in their power envelope. You could get 25% overclocks for nothing and 50 to 60% with not much effort or attention to detail. Many of those overclocked Core 2's are still crunching away in hosts that go years between reboots.

Even with unlocked multipliers at reasonable prices, more modern Intel CPUs just don't have the same overclocking bargain in them. They don't have the electrical margins, they don't have the quality thermal design, it's become a game that is worth only a small candle.

Yeah but Oc is too much headache for me(testing,and like you said the gain is not big),i prefer to buy something good and be pleased with it and not risk with OC(also i am an owner of a q6600,its lays some where in my room,amazing cpu />

 

[ApuLunas.211]

I guess you are saying about maxing out on 1920 * 1080. Please consider that next year a lot of people will be showing TW3 played on 2560 * 1440 and 3840 * 2160 (4K) and you will probably want to play it this way />

So ... wait ... new cards from both NVIDIA and AMD will be coming in the next months. TW3 specifications will be available next year. Then you should be able to sell your card and buy say two second hand GTX680s or GTX770s and run in SLI ... and I don't think it will be good enough for MAX on 4K, but for Full HD it might be enough.

well i don't think we'll have more than full hd for 3d in next year too.

 

[CalinTM]

I never heard some guy damaged his CPU while overclocking, especially these unlocked ones. You can OC within turbo multipliers, the volts and freq drops in idle, and when it's needed it bumps up to desired frequency. There is no issues. Unless you decide to stay with that rig more than 2 years, which a PC gamer doesn't.

 

[alextyc1]

I never heard some guy damaged his CPU while overclocking, especially these unlocked ones. You can OC within turbo multipliers, the volts and freq drops in idle, and when it's needed it bumps up to desired frequency. There is no issues. Unless you decide to stay with that rig more than 2 years, which a PC gamer doesn't.

Maybe a spoiled "pc gamer",and every two years?
Maybe the gpu(whats bad with gtx 470-480,560-580?)

but replace a cpu every two years?
I5 2500 is still a very good cpu and there is no need beyond this in games.
And OC a strong i7 cpu is beyond me,its a waste of time for no gain at all,so what if its a k version.

 

[GuyNwah]

I never heard some guy damaged his CPU while overclocking, especially these unlocked ones. You can OC within turbo multipliers, the volts and freq drops in idle, and when it's needed it bumps up to desired frequency. There is no issues. Unless you decide to stay with that rig more than 2 years, which a PC gamer doesn't.

Lots of reports of fried Ivy Bridges from overvoltage needed to sustain an overclock.

Ivy Bridge CPUs are especially poor overclockers, because Intel went cheap on the thermal design.

Saying there are "no issues" in recommending overclocking to a member who has reservations about it and no experience with it is not responsible.

 

[alextyc1]

Lots of reports of fried Ivy Bridges from overvoltage needed to sustain an overclock.

Ivy Bridge CPUs are especially poor overclockers, because Intel went cheap on the thermal design.

Saying there are "no issues" in recommending overclocking to a member who has reservations about it and no experience with it is not responsible.

Exactly.
encouraging not experienced people to OC is not smart,they will think its easy and burn the pc,one should OC only if he knows exactly what he is doing by 100% and only if he needs that extra power,which strong pc's dont need.

If someone wants to learn OC,he/she should read a lot of guides first.

Intel are getting cheap and lazy arent they?poor thermal design,usb 3 problem />
(Seems that amd cpu's are not a real competition for intel,so intel do what ever they want)

 

[daddy300]

Dont even think about changing your CPU!

770 in SLi are the best value for money right now. Perhaps get one 770.

check out performance benchmark;
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

 

[jhhardage]

Had a friend tell me I should start overclock. Have the i7 960 and 2 Radeon 5870s. I have absolutely no experience in such things. Plus my room is already constantly between 85-90 degrees. Feel like heat would become too much of an issue

In the future I may just get a single beefy card and not run 2 at a time.

 

[alextyc1]

Dont even think about changing your CPU!

770 in SLi are the best value for money right now. Perhaps get one 770.

check out performance benchmark;
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Ahh this is not really relevant for games.
Better benchmark site would be "gamegpu.ru"
Yes its russian site but you only need to pick the game benchmark and scroll down for the benchmarks.

And yeah gtx 770 is the smartest purchase right now.

@hey you, dont OC...really,you dont need any oc,i wouldnt listen to your friend's advice,esspecialy if you dont know how to

 

[prince_of_nothing]

So, my first question: Will I be able to run TW3 on max settings? (probably not)

It depends on what you mean by "max settings." If max settings means everything thats rendered, plus PhysX, then the answer is almost definitely no.

The 660 Ti is a capable card, but it lacks memory bandwidth. 1080p isn't that high of a resolution though, and I don't know what kind of AA Witcher 3 will support (I suppose it will have TXAA).

At any rate, it's very probable that you will require another 660 Ti to max out the Witcher 3 at 1080p. If you want to max out the PhysX as well, then you may even require a dedicated PhysX card depending on how awesome CDPR and NVidia's PhysX implementation is..

Knowing CDPR though, they will want to show off the Witcher 3's physics to compete with Dragon Age 3..

Second: What would be the best idea for me for an upgrade? Get a 2nd GTX 660 TI a two-way SLI setup? Or save up for an entirely new video-card?

Yes, getting a second SLI would be a good option. I've used SLI for years, and currently, I have two GTX 770 4GB cards, plus a GTX 650 Ti for dedicated PhysX.

Nvidia has awesome SLI support, so we know Witcher 3 will be very optimized for SLI.

So, go for a GTX 660 TI SLI setup, or do you folks have a better idea?

By the time the Witcher 3 comes out, you should be able to find a new, or better yet, a used one for dirt cheap. So getting another GTX 660 Ti should be the most cost effective solution for sure.

 

[GuyNwah]

Exactly.
encouraging not experienced people to OC is not smart,they will think its easy and burn the pc,one should OC only if he knows exactly what he is doing by 100% and only if he needs that extra power,which strong pc's dont need.

If someone wants to learn OC,he/she should read a lot of guides first.

Intel are getting cheap and lazy arent they?poor thermal design,usb 3 problem />/>
(Seems that amd cpu's are not a real competition for intel,so intel do what ever they want)

The last things I would accuse Rony Friedman of being are cheap or lazy. I mean, his CPU shop is where Moore's Law is marching orders. But their thermal design for the Ivy Bridge was bare minimum, with no margin to support getting extra heat away from the CPU.

It's something of a turnaround from the Core 2 days, when Intel CPUs would overclock mightily, and AMD Athlon, well, meh. Now you can get AMD FX overclocks in the 4.8 GHz range easy, and they start becoming performance-competitive with Core i5's and i7's at a much lower price.

 

[alextyc1]

The last things I would accuse Rony Friedman of being are cheap or lazy. I mean, his CPU shop is where Moore's Law is marching orders. But their thermal design for the Ivy Bridge was bare minimum, with no margin to support getting extra heat away from the CPU.

It's something of a turnaround from the Core 2 days, when Intel CPUs would overclock mightily, and AMD Athlon, well, meh. Now you can get AMD FX overclocks in the 4.8 GHz range easy, and they start becoming performance-competitive with Core i5's and i7's at a much lower price.

I kinda meant that with cpu power in games (at least) ,there is almost no difference between i5 2500-3570-4570/4670 in frames,there is a difference of course but not a huge one.

And Current cpu's already destroy games,thats might be a reason too for those little differences in the cpu's i mentioned in games />