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The Witcher 3: Two Areas Are Over 52 Square Miles by Themselves?

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SonsOfAtlas

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#501
Jan 25, 2015
Haha point surely taken. Just thought it might help the guys trying to figure out the scale of the game.
 
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frivolousam

Senior user
#502
Jan 25, 2015
eliharel said:
Well, considering the "35 times bigger than TW2" is their trademark statement about the entire map, that island doesn't do much to me.
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Here they say 65 times bigger, maybe it's a tongue slip or something tho

at 12:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-e5VYMpjos#t=757
 
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EliHarel

Rookie
#503
Jan 25, 2015
frivolousam said:
Here they say 65 times bigger, maybe it's a tongue slip or something tho

at 12:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-e5VYMpjos#t=757
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It was a slip of the tongue. Later on, however, Jose Teixeira was interviewed again (and again, and again), and he opened one of them by saying that the 65 was a mistake, but after said mistake he talked with some Devs behind the scenes and he was "oh, damn, I made a mistake!" and they calmed him by saying that the mistake is actually closer to the truth than the 35 claim, because the game has since expanded. So he was unknowingly giving the more accurate estimate.

But that explanation is all a mess, as you can see, and I haven't heard them in interviews repeating that updated estimation, so I myself am still sticking to the 35.
 
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frivolousam

Senior user
#504
Jan 25, 2015
Yeah I thought so and the same thing with ending world states, some of the devs say 36 then some say 46 or 54 :D
 
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EliHarel

Rookie
#505
Jan 25, 2015
Yeah, they haven't been very clear, so I personally am no longer sure anymore which of their statements in interviews are updates or mistakes.
 
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frivolousam

Senior user
#506
Jan 25, 2015
eliharel said:
Later on, however, Jose Teixeira was interviewed again (and again, and again), and he opened one of them by saying that the 65 was a mistake
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Found that interview. I like this guy :D Either this guy says more than he should or other devs say less than they could.(not concrete information ofc but it's refreshing to hear more than "we can't talk about it, it's coming when it's ready" about Cyberpunk)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3yKFqOfDdI
 
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BlackWolf500.298

Forum veteran
#507
Jan 26, 2015
I just stick with it being more than 35. Everything more than 35 will make me happy, as long as the content in the world is as rich and atmospheric as in the prequels.
 
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lord_blex

Senior user
#508
Jan 26, 2015
even 35 times something is so much bigger than the original that there is not much sense comparing them. 65x witcher 2 is basically twice as much as 35x, but if they said it's 65 and it only was about 35 I'm not sure anyone would really notice. (by just playing, I mean. if you started actually measuring distances then obviously you would know.)
 
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OliverDK

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#509
Jan 26, 2015
Quote from here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2875097/witcher-3-wild-hunt-hands-on-four-hours-with-the-most-anticipated-rpg-of-the-year.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#tk.rss_all

........It's not a single open world though, contrary to what I thought going into my demo. Instead, it's more akin to the previous Witcher titles or (even more relevant) Dragon Age: Inquisition. There are three or four major areas to explore, each of which is its own open world. However, these are discrete maps you travel between.

That's very interesting and news to me...... three or four major areas to explore....... I thought it was only two. Or maybe the journalist was misinformed or misunderstood.

Also from the same article:

.......I spent most of my time in White Orchard, only getting quick glimpses of Skellige and Novigrad. All three areas seem gigantic, though I think Dragon Age: Inquisition is probably a larger game overall.

Well as long as it is filled with more meaningful content than the mindless boring quests in DA:I then I am not too worried. Although I have a hard time believing it as DA:I didn't seem bigger than Skyrim and we know TW3 is suppose to be.
 
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SageFox.326

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#510
Jan 27, 2015
OliverDK said:
Quote from here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2875097/witcher-3-wild-hunt-hands-on-four-hours-with-the-most-anticipated-rpg-of-the-year.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#tk.rss_all

........It's not a single open world though, contrary to what I thought going into my demo. Instead, it's more akin to the previous Witcher titles or (even more relevant) Dragon Age: Inquisition. There are three or four major areas to explore, each of which is its own open world. However, these are discrete maps you travel between.

That's very interesting and news to me...... three or four major areas to explore....... I thought it was only two. Or maybe the journalist was misinformed or misunderstood.

Also from the same article:

.......I spent most of my time in White Orchard, only getting quick glimpses of Skellige and Novigrad. All three areas seem gigantic, though I think Dragon Age: Inquisition is probably a larger game overall.

Well as long as it is filled with more meaningful content than the mindless boring quests in DA:I then I am not too worried. Although I have a hard time believing it as DA:I didn't seem bigger than Skyrim and we know TW3 is suppose to be.
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If that's true, then this is not even so much bigger than skyrim..... even smaller than Dragon Age Inquisition, and then some CDPR declarations would be......not true? I hope PC World is wrong.
 
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Geralt_of_bsas

Forum veteran
#511
Jan 27, 2015
when I saw in the 35min demo the crazy speed at which geralt's marker position moves in the map, I instantly started thinking on a game of a much much smaller scale than the things we have been talking about prior to that.

Like I said before in this same thread, the devs repeated that on horse at full speed it could take you 40 mins in a straight line to go from one end to the other of the entire game, they said this many times just like the 35 times TW2 claim, and based on how fast geralt moves with the horse just walking, you would need a map 5 times bigger than NMsL or more to make the claim approximately feasible.

I am prepared to receive a game thats big, but not too much, just an open world.
 
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C0bR

Senior user
#512
Jan 27, 2015
OliverDK said:
Quote from here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2875097/witcher-3-wild-hunt-hands-on-four-hours-with-the-most-anticipated-rpg-of-the-year.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#tk.rss_all

........It's not a single open world though, contrary to what I thought going into my demo. Instead, it's more akin to the previous Witcher titles or (even more relevant) Dragon Age: Inquisition. There are three or four major areas to explore, each of which is its own open world. However, these are discrete maps you travel between.

That's very interesting and news to me...... three or four major areas to explore....... I thought it was only two. Or maybe the journalist was misinformed or misunderstood.

Also from the same article:

.......I spent most of my time in White Orchard, only getting quick glimpses of Skellige and Novigrad. All three areas seem gigantic, though I think Dragon Age: Inquisition is probably a larger game overall.

Well as long as it is filled with more meaningful content than the mindless boring quests in DA:I then I am not too worried. Although I have a hard time believing it as DA:I didn't seem bigger than Skyrim and we know TW3 is suppose to be.
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"and I base it on fucking nothing"
 
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DukeAlmighty

Senior user
#513
Jan 27, 2015
SageFox said:
If that's true, then this is not even so much bigger than skyrim..... even smaller than Dragon Age Inquisition, and then some CDPR declarations would be......not true? I hope PC World is wrong.
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Of course he is wrong. In fact he is talking out of his ass.
"I spent most of my time in White Orchard, only getting quick glimpses of Skellige and Novigrad"
And how from that he can deduct that W3 will be smaller than DAI... facepalm
 
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Xvenger

Rookie
#514
Jan 27, 2015
C0bR said:
"and I base it on fucking nothing"
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probably. Of course the one thing that he has going for him than the rest of us is that he actually managed to play the thing first hand which would make his speculation more "credible" to the casual reader.
In his defense (i guess), it can be possible to misplace the size of DA:I due to the number of BIG hubs it has. and in some of these big hubs, there's nothing but vast emptiness that even going full speed on a horse which might create the illusion of "omg, I've traveled in the open for 2 mins and still haven't reached the place. Map is huge!".

Regardless, I wouldn't be bothered by size. It's the same old "my dick is bigger than yours" argument and doesn't actually amount to anything. From the articles I've read, I'm more and more pleased to hear that the vibe that I got from the press in their experience is that the World size makes sense. CDPR made Witcher 3 not because it just wants a big open world to fill in shit and brag about it like other rpgs. W3 map size is huge simply as the result of the sheer amount of QUALITY quests and storylines they made for this game.
The map needed to be big enough to space out these questline events, unless you want to see your mini map flooded with all sorts of random icons every 10 steps you take. At the same time, it's also not stupidly gigantic to the point where you reach certain zones that have absolutely no content in them for miles which would not only feel useless, a waste of time, and cheap; but it can also destroy the immersion of what many are saying felt like they were part of an actual "living breathing world". That to me, as an RPG fan is what matters the most.
:scold:
 
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BlackWolf500.298

Forum veteran
#515
Jan 27, 2015
SageFox said:
If that's true, then this is not even so much bigger than skyrim..... even smaller than Dragon Age Inquisition, and then some CDPR declarations would be......not true? I hope PC World is wrong.
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Journalists man, this is a guess-work comparison at best.
 
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Zabanzo

Senior user
#516
Jan 27, 2015
OliverDK said:
Quote from here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2875097/witcher-3-wild-hunt-hands-on-four-hours-with-the-most-anticipated-rpg-of-the-year.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#tk.rss_all

........It's not a single open world though, contrary to what I thought going into my demo. Instead, it's more akin to the previous Witcher titles or (even more relevant) Dragon Age: Inquisition. There are three or four major areas to explore, each of which is its own open world. However, these are discrete maps you travel between.

That's very interesting and news to me...... three or four major areas to explore....... I thought it was only two. Or maybe the journalist was misinformed or misunderstood.

Also from the same article:

.......I spent most of my time in White Orchard, only getting quick glimpses of Skellige and Novigrad. All three areas seem gigantic, though I think Dragon Age: Inquisition is probably a larger game overall.

Well as long as it is filled with more meaningful content than the mindless boring quests in DA:I then I am not too worried. Although I have a hard time believing it as DA:I didn't seem bigger than Skyrim and we know TW3 is suppose to be.
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He got it all wrong... there is white orchard, which is prologue area. Next area is Skellige archipelago, and then there is Novigrad + No Mans Land which are connected into one map. There are multiple regions, but that doesnt mean they are all separated and cut into smaller maps.
 
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frivolousam

Senior user
#517
Jan 27, 2015
Maps need to be big to be believable first then comes the content for which it should be worth to explore that map. There could be open spaces with no content if it makes sense, like farm areas. In the end all is for immersion for a great story to takes place in. There is one area in DAI called Hissing Wastes; the content in that place could have been placed in 1/10 of that map, if that area will determine which game is bigger then let DAI be bigger. Tho I don't think it is. You can go one end to other end of Hinterlands which is one of the biggest maps of DAI in 5 mins on horseback galloping which is probably a lot slower than the horses in wild hunt. And it takes 15 to 20 mins from Novigrad to NML/Velen/Dawnwarren/whateveritis on horseback galloping as devs say and it didn't seem like one end to another. And there are 2 more maps just as big I assume.(Clarify this shit already, CDPR :D)
 
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alexious.130

Rookie
#518
Jan 27, 2015
OliverDK said:
Quote from here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2875097/witcher-3-wild-hunt-hands-on-four-hours-with-the-most-anticipated-rpg-of-the-year.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#tk.rss_all

........It's not a single open world though, contrary to what I thought going into my demo. Instead, it's more akin to the previous Witcher titles or (even more relevant) Dragon Age: Inquisition. There are three or four major areas to explore, each of which is its own open world. However, these are discrete maps you travel between.

That's very interesting and news to me...... three or four major areas to explore....... I thought it was only two. Or maybe the journalist was misinformed or misunderstood.

Also from the same article:

.......I spent most of my time in White Orchard, only getting quick glimpses of Skellige and Novigrad. All three areas seem gigantic, though I think Dragon Age: Inquisition is probably a larger game overall.

Well as long as it is filled with more meaningful content than the mindless boring quests in DA:I then I am not too worried. Although I have a hard time believing it as DA:I didn't seem bigger than Skyrim and we know TW3 is suppose to be.
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I really hope this is completely false, CD Projekt always said that the world was seamless.
 
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Goudinhanden

Rookie
#519
Jan 27, 2015
A note on the size of the Skellige Archipelago
I think the Skellige archipelago map (52 sq miles) will consist mostly of water. From the gameplay we received yesterday it was quite clear that the Island is not 52 sq miles by itself.
Ard skellig was also mentioned to be the largest of the islands in the archipelago. Source was the QA yesterday I think.
View attachment 9747
If we look at the map here, we can estimate that a square around all of the islands in the archipelago being 52 sq mile would result in ~30-40% of land inside that square. So perhaps the sq mile area of land in the Skellige Archipelago is ~18sq miles. This would still make it a huge area compared to Skyrim's 14.3 sq miles(Not 100% sure on Skyrim size, and I know comparing to Skyrim is not beloved by a lot of forum users but I'll do it anyway). On top of that, the sea's in between the island are sail-able without any loading screens which in itself will be an exciting immersive experience.

Why do I care about the size of the world? Immersion and sense of exploration. To fully be immersed I need to be able to get lost, I need to experience journeys.
 
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Kinley

Kinley

Ex-moderator
#520
Jan 27, 2015
Posting leaked information is not allowed, post edited.
 
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