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SeasonedWitcher

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#1,481
May 6, 2015
delnac said:
They've done what exactly? If you are referring to the way they addressed the downgrade questions, they didn't answer anything in the least specific way.

Look, we're running in circles and you evidently believe strongly that nvidia has access to a current build despite the way these things work. Let's leave it at that, shall we?
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They clarified when there was talk of downgrades before on these very forums. One such example where they did was the infamous frost effect on the Wild Hunt in one trailer video. They came right out and said it was a bug and it would be fixed in a very specific way, it was Marcin who provided the clarification.. That's just one example.
 
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Valvatti87

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#1,482
May 6, 2015
SeasonedWitcher said:
They clarified when their was talk of downgrades before on these very forums. One such example where they did was the infamous frost effect on the Wild Hunt in one trailer video. They came right out and said it was a bug and it would be fixed in a very specific way, it was Marcin who provided the clarification.. That's just one example.
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Im pretty sure u understand this game probably might have not been deveploved to this scale without it goin multiplattform.
 
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SeasonedWitcher

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#1,483
May 6, 2015
Valvatti87 said:
Im pretty sure u understand this game probably might have not been deveploved to this scale without it goin multiplattform.
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What was that got to do with anything I've said?
 
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delnac

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#1,484
May 6, 2015
SeasonedWitcher said:
They clarified when there was talk of downgrades before on these very forums. One such example where they did was the infamous frost effect on the Wild Hunt in one trailer video. They came right out and said it was a bug and it would be fixed in a very specific way, it was Marcin who provided the clarification.. That's just one example.
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Right, I understand what you are getting at. I agree that they have addressed a lot of stuff. The blood, the water, what you are referring. But they never touched the meat of the subject, which is what I meant. Frankly, if we could have answers either regarding a city corner's asset quality or about game-encompassing effects, I'd choose the later. We still don't have clarifications regarding a hell of a lot of stuff. I'm not placing the blame, only saying that this nvidia screenshot stuff might not get debunked because they don't realize there's an issue in the first place.
 
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Valvatti87

Forum regular
#1,485
May 6, 2015
Everything. U like bashing consoles and their inferior hardware.
 
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SeasonedWitcher

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May 6, 2015
delnac said:
Right, I understand what you are getting at. I agree that they have addressed a lot of stuff. The blood, the water, what you are referring. But they never touched the meat of the subject, which is what I meant. Frankly, if we could have answers either regarding a city corner's asset quality or about game-encompassing effects, I'd choose the later. We still don't have clarifications regarding a hell of a lot of stuff. I'm not placing the blame, only saying that this nvidia screenshot stuff might not get debunked because they don't realize there's an issue in the first place.
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Less than two weeks and all will be revealed. There will be no more claims of old builds then. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure the Nvidia screenshot will be very close to the final product.

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Valvatti87 said:
Everything. U like bashing consoles and their inferior hardware.
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No, that's you putting words in my mouth.
 
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Valvatti87

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May 6, 2015
SeasonedWitcher said:
Less than two weeks and all will be revealed. There will be no more claims of old builds then. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure the Nvidia screenshot will be very close the the final product.

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No, that's you putting words in my mouth.
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Am i? welll sry about that. ure right. it will all be revealed. If the game sucks visually ill personally apologise u. No hate bro. I really need to go sleep noW
its 2:AM here in Finland and got to work tomorrow :)
 
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Shelledfade

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#1,488
May 7, 2015
LittleBigAlex said:

Seriously?
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Just... damn. I see they took that screenshot down off the nvidia site which is where I 'think' it came from. Maybe nvidia messed up by putting up a shot of an older build (the bottom shot being the older one) because that's the only thing I can think of that would logically explain whats happening here between these two shots.

It would be nice if somebody official could give us a clear answer here though if that's actually an older build or not in the bottom shot because..... yeah... I don't think it needs to be explained further. They just do not compare to each other visually.

Clarification would be great on this one. That's obviously the exact same location in both images, just on the bottom one geralt has moved forward down the bridge/road a bit more and is looking upwards slightly.
 
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Khaos-51

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#1,489
May 7, 2015
Is it on my end or this link is not working anymore?

https://international.download.nvidi...airworks-2.jpg
 
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Zabanzo

Senior user
#1,490
May 7, 2015
Khaos-51 said:
Is it on my end or this link is not working anymore?
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Nvidia replaced new screens with older screenshots.
 
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Jasheon

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#1,491
May 7, 2015
Shelledfade said:
Just... damn. I see they took that screenshot down off the nvidia site which is where I 'think' it came from. Maybe nvidia messed up by putting up a shot of an older build (the bottom shot being the older one) because that's the only thing I can think of that would logically explain whats happening here between these two shots.

It would be nice if somebody official could give us a clear answer here though if that's actually an older build or not in the bottom shot because..... yeah... I don't think it needs to be explained further. They just do not compare to each other visually.

Clarification would be great on this one. That's obviously the exact same location in both images, just on the bottom one geralt has moved forward down the bridge/road a bit more and is looking upwards slightly.
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How can the nvidia screenshot be older than a E3 2014 build? It's not....the only thing that makes sense is that....

1. It's been changed/downgraded
2. From lower settings than the E3 demo

Hope it's lower settings but I have my doubts
 
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Shelledfade

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#1,492
May 7, 2015
Valvatti87 said:
This might be a bit flammatory but i dont think PC has even the third of the copies pre ordered and what they will sell. They absolutely havety think about these things..
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There's no real info on that I don't think. If you can get me actual statistics on their pre-order sales I'd love to look at it but most graphs on that don't include digital sales which makes up most of pc sales. Just giving you a reminder on that if you actually are looking at something legitimate. Also I personally know a lot of console users who specifically built or upgraded their PC just for this game. That's how excited they were about its visuals. That's how excited I personally was as well. So this so-claimed "downgrade" is hitting us pretty hard. I mean, we believed in these guys down to the core.

I think the main point that is trying to be portrayed by all of this is that no developer should be cutting visual features out of a specific platform just because another platform cannot utilize it, for any game by any developer who has already released amazing-looking footage, which said footage was claimed to be actual in-game gameplay which they DID say. I'm not saying that's what definitively happened here either, just what's tickling the back of our thoughts regarding what is going on and whats happening here needs more clarification from the developers.

I'm not saying they lied, but I personally feel deceived at this point from what I saw and what I'm looking at now. Which hurts a lot because I didn't believe these guys were capable of anything remotely close to this.
 
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YTF

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May 7, 2015
Zabanzo said:
Nvidia replaced new screens with older screenshots.
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And the plot thickens...
What's going on here...
 
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Jedi2016

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#1,494
May 7, 2015
LittleBigAlex said:

Seriously?
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I'm far more amazed by the fact that someone actually thought this was important enough to spend time digging through these images and making this comparison, than what the images actually show. I find it somewhat hypocritical to complain endlessly about a game you'll probably be spending the next few months playing nonstop. Because, seriously... even with all the bitching, every single person in this thread is still chomping at the bit to play this, and not a damn thing is going to stop them from doing so.
 
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DinkyDino

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#1,495
May 7, 2015
Jasheon said:
How can the nvidia screenshot be older than a E3 2014 build? It's not....the only thing that makes sense is that....

1. It's been changed/downgraded
2. From lower settings than the E3 demo

Hope it's lower settings but I have my doubts
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Nvidia never shows lower settings for these things. Come on guys it's not complicated. Between the lack of official straightforward answers, the recent images and vids where the visual quality looks worse than the initial reveal and the interview where they pretty much told us 1 build for all 3 platforms as well as some cut eye candy, you can tell what happened. Recent comparison images like the one with the wall edge and rock/grass makes it so obvious. Notice how there's barely anyone saying there isn't a downgrade anymore since it's actually close to release and people might actual bring up what they say. We've been bugging CDPR for weeks and haven't gotten a solid response and by now I'm pretty sure you can all guess why. Well it's not like they owe us a response but it would be real nice if they did. IF it was "downgraded," you can expect on release they will probably just have some PRish answer ready as to why it happened so don't expect a solid answer.

Imo, there's a 5% chance they build they sent Nvidia perhaps didn't have ultra unlocked on it since they said we would see it on release but I'm not that optimistic anymore given the weight of evidence that says otherwise. However I can't ignore the possibility either since they did take the pictures down perhaps they realized the build they received was not on ultra settings. Or maybe CDPR told them to take the shots down to avoid causing more problems if you want to think negative. Would be a lot easier if this entire fiasco was just cleared up. Wouldn't mind a downgrade but I do mind being given the impression that I can replicate the earlier shots if you actually cannot. 12 days and 5 hours left now before we can quell our curiosities.
 
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Vixraine

Rookie
#1,496
May 7, 2015
Jedi2016 said:
I'm far more amazed by the fact that someone actually thought this was important enough to spend time digging through these images and making this comparison, than what the images actually show. I find it somewhat hypocritical to complain endlessly about a game you'll probably be spending the next few months playing nonstop. Because, seriously... even with all the bitching, every single person in this thread is still chomping at the bit to play this, and not a damn thing is going to stop them from doing so.
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It's almost like someone cares if they get the product that was advertised to them or something. That's just crazy.
 
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Shelledfade

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#1,497
May 7, 2015
Jasheon said:
http://wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-nvidia-hairworks-bear.jpg

Here is the bear pic nvidia released, looks horrible.
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Holy hell... And those trees... why are they bending so far? My friend just said it looks like a nuke went off in the background lol. I think they are experiencing hurricane force winds or something O.O. By all rights that bear shouldn't even be standing in wind that strong lol.

That bear... I don't think its fur has any special nvidia setting in this picture. It looks too clumpy which is something they were trying to avoid doing they specifically said when they showed off their wolf fur affects a while ago.
 
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Jasheon

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#1,498
May 7, 2015
Shelledfade said:
Holy hell... And those trees... why are they bending so far? My friend just said it looks like a nuke went off in the background lol. I think they are experiencing hurricane force winds or something O.O. By all rights that bear shouldn't even be standing in wind that strong lol.

That bear... I don't think its fur has any special nvidia setting in this picture. It looks too clumpy which is something they were trying to avoid doing they specifically said when they showed off their wolf fur affects a while ago.
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Yah the hair works doesn't even look enabled....the whole image is just so bland. I honestly don't understand what is going on!!!
 
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JasonShepard

Senior user
#1,499
May 7, 2015
Jedi2016 said:
I'm far more amazed by the fact that someone actually thought this was important enough to spend time digging through these images and making this comparison, than what the images actually show. I find it somewhat hypocritical to complain endlessly about a game you'll probably be spending the next few months playing nonstop. Because, seriously... even with all the bitching, every single person in this thread is still chomping at the bit to play this, and not a damn thing is going to stop them from doing so.
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Digging? That took about 4 minutes in paint for me to make that comparison. It's a confusing change, I pointed it out. I'm still going to play the game and enjoy it, you're right. Is criticizing something you enjoy a bad thing now?
Glad to see some of the "Console be draggin down muh PC" circlejerking died down. If you want to discuss a downgrade, do it. Don't act like an ass about it though guys.
 
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Jedi2016

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May 7, 2015
Vixraine said:
It's almost like someone cares if they get the product that was advertised to them or something. That's just crazy.
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Well, in all other aspects of life, you would simply not buy the product. I find it amusing that that's never an option with games for most people.

JasonShepard said:
Is criticizing something you enjoy a bad thing now?
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The purpose of criticism is to facilitate change. That's never going to happen here, so what's the point? Just to make a big noise? Job well done.

As I've said a number of times on a number of forums whenever someone posts a comparison, none of this means a damn thing until we see the exact same location, at the exact same time of day (which is why your lovely crack doesn't look the same), in the final retail product, in order to judge just how much of a "downgrade" there's been.

You have no way of knowing if that screen was taken yesterday or two years ago. We've seen locations in other screens of that same level of low fidelity that look noticeably better in later videos and screenshots. An upgrade, not a downgrade. You're going to look a right tit if the final game ends up looking exactly like the pic on top.
 
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