Couldnt put it better WichatLove always makes us suffer
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:hatsoff:Promising no more delays was stupid. There are always certain unexpected problems that can occur during development. I'm sure they will learn from this and I'm glad they broke their promise.
But I'm also more skeptical towards the game. The coming months will tell why the game was delayed, I suppose.
@scoldarr: pretty harsh to compare an early access game with open beta to a story heavy AAA game. They have released a lot of information already but seeing as the core content of this game are story heavy quests, they're unable to release the same material as a sandbox game such as Divinity: Original Sin.
God almighty help them if not.
I fear that they will push marketing campaing once more resulting in another 2-3 months of nearly total silence.
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I am sad (wanted to play during my free time on feb.), but if it means less bugs then so be it
Honestly, it takes some balls to announce this a few month before the release, and in fact I'm glad they have... Since TW2, all I want is to play the last chapter of this epic saga, or in fact all I want is to play the best end possible for this saga and if this means waiting a few month more than scheduled... Meh what ever I'll enjoy it!
I hope they will achieve in resolving their issues and I hope 3 month will be enough! Good luck to all the team and thanks you for tour commitment to your community!
I hope they will achieve in resolving their issues and I hope 3 month will be enough! Good luck to all the team and thanks you for tour commitment to your community!
Blame CDPR. They started to market this game in very early state TWO YEARS before release. Even big pubs don't usually begin to talk about their games that long before release. It's quite natural that people get hyped if you promise that much so long before you're ready. It's the devs fault if they can't deliver on that promises, and their fault alone. Otherwise they should have waited to present the game to the public and to promise certain features and stuff until they were VERY sure that they could actually deliver. This long period of marketing and talking about a game is just crazy, given the high degree of uncertaincies in game development. With crowdfunding and open development I've followed the process of making a game quite closely in some cases and it's really astonishing how much a game can change even in a few weeks before release.
If people are loosing interest now and worry about the game it's CDPR's fault because they maybe were too mouthy in the first place. Instead of modesty they showed almost hybris. It was them who marketed Witcher 3 as the best RPG even, easily beating Skyrim and other games, not the fans, don't forget that...
Internal development decision. That's all we're likely to get. Hell, it might not even be something we'd understand, coding issue, art asset issue, legal issue, who knows. Probably a few things. Ah, speculation.
I suspect ducks. Rabid duckery.
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When did I ever say I believe every word in this open letter? 7 months is a long time and I can't really get mad at them for not being able to stick to something they said that long ago. You're also comparing a kickstarter game to a game that is made by a company with investors who may not want somethings released.
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My main concern is that im very skeptical that CDPR truly didnt know how to "calculate" better a date, and just fell short.
I think something really bad happened in the later stages of the project, and took them more or less by surprise.
On its own the time of the delay isnt big at all, dragon age got delayed 14 months I think for example, but its the way in which these delays for TW3 happened what worry me...
In favor of the project we know its a brutally ambitious thing, and stuff that was doubted like mounted combat and large underwater places ended up included, as if they managed to do more than what they thought, which would explain more time just for polishing, but we also have seen so very little about the game that its really a well guarded secret what the hell we're gonna get
I think something really bad happened in the later stages of the project, and took them more or less by surprise.
On its own the time of the delay isnt big at all, dragon age got delayed 14 months I think for example, but its the way in which these delays for TW3 happened what worry me...
In favor of the project we know its a brutally ambitious thing, and stuff that was doubted like mounted combat and large underwater places ended up included, as if they managed to do more than what they thought, which would explain more time just for polishing, but we also have seen so very little about the game that its really a well guarded secret what the hell we're gonna get
Divinity Original Sin is far from being a sandbox game...
Releasing "information" is nothing else than marketing. Statements on paper, not worth the ink if the game itself fails to deliver.
The point is that we don't know whether it's just bugfixing and polishing or "more" that caused the delay. We don't know in which state the game currently is. We have actually no real, solid information AT ALL. So telling people to stop worrying and just believing CDPR's words seems a bit, let's say "naive" to me. Of course it could be that way, it's just that nobody outside of CDPR really knows...
I'm only comparing them to make clear that we don't have any actual information in the case of Witcher 3 (different to e.g. Original Sin). And I never said that you believe every word of this open letter. I generally said that people shouldn't follow this attitude of just believing something because somebody says. Staying critical is often way more healthy.
Well, what wouldn't be marketing at this point? Releasing game content? A demo? Those are all marketing...intended for us, their market.
Any time they talk to us, it's marketing, right?
Also, we don't get to be privy to internal development decisions. WOuld you like to know why Walmart delays product releases? Ford? General Electric?
They might tell you - probably they would not. We are the consumers, they are the producers. And more open development, a la D:Os, (I'm a backer!), that's also marketing. Kind of a marketing/development crossover, really.
Well, as I see it videogames are a form of art....
So I'll tell you a little story about Gaudi, he, in 1915 began the planning for the construction of La sagrada Familia possibly the mos beautiful cathedral in the world...
There were hundreds of delays during the construction and when asked he always said the same: "My boss has no rush for me to finish it"...
A man with lots of sarcasm in him if you ask me (as he meant God when refering to his boss)
So there is no need to rush an artist when he/she is at his best, even more if we modern patrons don't spend more than 40/50 bucks for copies of pieces of art such as this.
By the way La Sagrada Familia is going to be finished aroun 2030, haha...
So I'll tell you a little story about Gaudi, he, in 1915 began the planning for the construction of La sagrada Familia possibly the mos beautiful cathedral in the world...
There were hundreds of delays during the construction and when asked he always said the same: "My boss has no rush for me to finish it"...
A man with lots of sarcasm in him if you ask me (as he meant God when refering to his boss)
So there is no need to rush an artist when he/she is at his best, even more if we modern patrons don't spend more than 40/50 bucks for copies of pieces of art such as this.
By the way La Sagrada Familia is going to be finished aroun 2030, haha...
I remember reading an article a month or two ago where they were supposedly aiming to release it late 2015.
If this was true, it most certainly isn't going to happen now. Expect 2016 at the earliest.
At least release some real, unscripted gameplay. How about 5 minutes of gameplay for each cinematic trailer?