The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - An Open Letter

[Scholdarr.452]

I got disappointed as well,why cant they talk to their fans? Instead they talk to these gaming sites and piss on us ! just makes you wonder who they care about .

They did't even talk to gaming sites but a financial (!!!) journalists...

Anyway, if it's true that by the end of the year the game will be feature complete and "done" I hope that we will see more actual gameplay soon...

 

[Gvynblade]

Actually would'be better if release date postpone again till win 10 is out.

 

[Scholdarr.452]

Actually would'be better if release date postpone again till win 10 is out.

For what reason? I doubt CDPR will support DX12 anyway.

 

[TemerianGirl]

Ok, it's... what? Delayed? It's fine CDPR. More time for calibration and all. I understand.

I'm Ok with this. Totally. Absolutely. Woohoo.

Spoiler

 

[GuyNwah]

There's a good reason for giving priority to financial analysts and reporters. A handful of discontented fans will not damage the company or its ability to deliver the game. But a single nervous analyst can sink the company's stock price and its ability to raise operating capital. This will result in all the fans getting no game at all.

Analysts with the power to say dump the company's stock are a damn sight more dangerous than fans who have no understanding of what commercially reasonable means with respect to promises they believe were made to them.

 

[Gvynblade]

For what reason? I doubt CDPR will support DX12 anyway.

No,but i want them to support and play it on win10.

 

[Scholdarr.452]

No,but i want them to support and play it on win10.

There is no reason why the game shouldn't work on Win10. You can already download the beta version and most games just run fine on it.

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There's a good reason for giving priority to financial analysts and reporters. A handful of discontented fans will not damage the company or its ability to deliver the game. But a single nervous analyst can sink the company's stock price and its ability to raise operating capital. This will result in all the fans getting no game at all.

Analysts with the power to say dump the company's stock are a damn sight more dangerous than fans who have no understanding of what commercially reasonable means with respect to promises they believe were made to them.

True. But they could at least deliver the same message to the fans on the forum as well. Why do we have to read about that on Eurogamer instead of here on the board? Is it too much to ask to write another official post here on the board saying the same thing they've said to financial journalists?

 

[Aes Sídhe]

I would have prefered it if they had talked to their core community about that instead. That way they could have avoided much of the discussion here and the bad blood from the very beginning. Seems like CDPR rather talks to "financial journalists" than to their fanbase aka loyal customers

They have talked to us, we got the open letter first. Since then they have had a local press event at which a little clarification was given - what do you expect them to do... ignore requests for comment from journalists and not answer a few questions to the media who can get their message out further and deeper than here alone?

Making themselves available to explain every little detail each of us on the board may want addressed simply isn't going to work, it would be an omnishambles, so apart from Open Letters what is it you are seemingly demanding "on behalf of their fans" as proper behaviour ?

Btw, you don't speak for me, i'm patient enough to let them roll out the info as they see fit. Clearly unlike some I don't assume the worst of these guys. I don't believe we've ever been intentionally deceived, nor do I expect - or want for that matter - a window deeply displaying the dev process, or a public lynching either. Asking for that degree of constant carebearing handholding attention - and I don't care if KS devs do it, I consider that an irrelevant point here - is asking to add an unnecessary burden for little or no bonus just because its novelty makes it seem like "progress" to some.

 

[Scholdarr.452]

They have talked to us, we got the open letter first.

First: we don't know about that. They could have talked to journalists about that before.
Second: the open letter appeared on facebook and twitter at almost the same time for the general public.

And no, I have nothing against answering questions at such an event of course. But why is it so hard to just post the SAME stuff here ASAP? What is the Community Manager position even for if not for exactly doing stuff like that? The question is why I have to read that on Eurogamer instead of being able to read that directly from the devs here on the board. I don't necessarily want more than they do for journalists. But they could at least try to do the same to us hardcore fans if you ask me. i mean they do (they must) know that people ask questions but still they kept mostly quiet here. I don't think that this behaviour fits to the their self-display of being the most gamer-friendly company ever, that's all...

 

[kl4user.679]

For all I know crunch time is something that is just present in the Game dev industry, no matter what company you're in. And most devs love doing what they do, which softens the crunch a bit I'd imagine.

100% true and I say this is true for the whole software industry. So, why you are upset like this:

Why are so many people saying that CDPR has a lot of crunch time.

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[Wolfmeister1010]

Apparently the trailer elder blood was made from old footage really quickly? Thats good news.

But I just can't understand why they wouldn't try to fix this. When every single trailer they put out spurts bogus claims of downgrade, you would think they would think to themselves "Hm..maybe the next trailer we put out should be from decent newer footage".

 

[GuyNwah]

Apparently the trailer elder blood was made from old footage really quickly? Thats good news.

But I just can't understand why they wouldn't try to fix this. When every single trailer they put out spurts bogus claims of downgrade, you would think they would think to themselves "Hm..maybe the next trailer we put out should be from decent newer footage".

Maybe they realize it would be easier to get the work done on a schedule that doesn't distract the developers with the need to put out trailer footage, and let the moderators deal with the bogus claims. They don't have to pay moderators.

Developers, even very good ones, don't switch context quickly. You could lose as much as a day of each engineer's time in addition to the time required to prepare and polish the trailer. If they're using a bogus deadlinesprint process, developers hate it because it makes them miss bogussprint deadlines and look bad on performance charts.

 

[Wolfmeister1010]

Maybe they realize it would be easier to get the work done on a schedule that doesn't distract the developers with the need to put out trailer footage, and let the moderators deal with the bogus claims. They don't have to pay moderators.

Developers, even very good ones, don't switch context quickly. You could lose as much as a day of each engineer's time in addition to the time required to prepare and polish the trailer. If they're using a bogus deadlinesprint process, developers hate it because it makes them miss bogussprint deadlines and look bad on performance charts.

very true, sir. Thanks!

 

[Scholdarr.452]

Maybe they realize it would be easier to get the work done on a schedule that doesn't distract the developers with the need to put out trailer footage, and let the moderators deal with the bogus claims. They don't have to pay moderators.

Developers, even very good ones, don't switch context quickly. You could lose as much as a day of each engineer's time in addition to the time required to prepare and polish the trailer. If they're using a bogus deadlinesprint process, developers hate it because it makes them miss bogussprint deadlines and look bad on performance charts.

Well, best way to deal with the downgrade claims is to just show some new actual gameplay from the latest version. 5 minutes should be enough to silent the sceptics. Wouldn't put much extra works on the devs neither...

 

[Aes Sídhe]

First: we don't know about that. They could have talked to journalists about that before.
Second: the open letter appeared on facebook and twitter at almost the same time for the general public.

Oh come on you're splitting hairs here. I saw the Open Letter here before I heard of it anywhere else, if it was given to journos it was clearly embargoed to await posting on the REDs channels first. I despise FB & twatter but even I'm not going to take umbrage over which of their channels they chose to post on first. Sheesh.

And no, I have nothing against answering questions at such an event of course. But why is it so hard to just post the SAME stuff here ASAP? What is the Community Manager position even for if not for exactly doing stuff like that? The question is why I have to read that on Eurogamer instead of being able to read that directly from the devs here on the board. I don't necessarily want more than they do for journalists. But they could at least try to do the same to us hardcore fans if you ask me. i mean they do (they must) know that people ask questions but still they kept mostly quiet here. I don't think that this behaviour fits to the their self-display of being the most gamer-friendly company ever, that's all...

Initial broad announcement straight to fans with specific follow ups through the oh-so-curious-and-demanding-themselves-media is a perfectly normal, natural, and acceptable way to do these things. You realise media outlets - who since they've no higher publisher showering gifts on - quite likely cry out for exclusives and might take the hump if they never get a little attention too, try and see that theres more to the devs perspective of an event like this than narrow gamers interests. Likewise make no assumptions about a CM's workload, activity, even job description... such ill-informed comments are the type that evoke pitchforks, flaming torches, and rope hanging from gallows.

And that last bit, that bit you've had your jaw locked on as long as I've been reading your posts, that's your perception of what they've said. From my perspective you continually overblow their claims. Have they taken the appropriate opportunities to highlight the clear water between themselves and others in the industry? Yes, nothing remotely wrong with being distinctive and flaunting it, we all do that to some degree, its called individualism. But are they - as you continually assert - guilty of ostentatiously egregious pretense (grandiose tautological authorship intended)? Not at all, get over it please, move on.

 

[Scholdarr.452]

Oh come on you're splitting hairs here.

I'm splitting hairs? I just said that the open letter wasn't released on the forums first. It was released to the general public through various channels which includes everyone, fans, journos and everyone else who is interested.

There rest of your comment is full of misunderstandings, speculations and accusations of what I've said or meant so I won't even address that apart from that I've just made a SMALL request/remark and you are the one making a big deal out of it. It's just not worth my time to argue about that, sorry.

 

[TheDeathRun]

I just said that the open letter wasn't released on the forums first. It was released to the general public through various channels which includes everyone, fans, journos and everyone else who is interested.

While I can understand why you would feel CDPR should cater to their fans on their own website first, I think you're not seeing the bigger picture. It's quite possible that there are fans who don't have the time to check these forums regularly (you yourself noted the general public includes fans), so releasing this kind of important news on the forums first could cause dissatisfaction from them. It raises unpleasant ideas such as CDPR being ineffective by not simply releasing the news on all available channels simultaneously so that all their fans, regardless of whether they regularly visit these forums or not, would get the news as quickly as possible. In this way, nobody is alienated.

 

[Crivilnite]

Oh come on you're splitting hairs here. I saw the Open Letter here before I heard of it anywhere else, if it was given to journos it was clearly embargoed to await posting on the REDs channels first. I despise FB & twatter but even I'm not going to take umbrage over which of their channels they chose to post on first. Sheesh.



Initial broad announcement straight to fans with specific follow ups through the oh-so-curious-and-demanding-themselves-media is a perfectly normal, natural, and acceptable way to do these things. You realise media outlets - who since they've no higher publisher showering gifts on - quite likely cry out for exclusives and might take the hump if they never get a little attention too, try and see that theres more to the devs perspective of an event like this than narrow gamers interests. Likewise make no assumptions about a CM's workload, activity, even job description... such ill-informed comments are the type that evoke pitchforks, flaming torches, and rope hanging from gallows.

And that last bit, that bit you've had your jaw locked on as long as I've been reading your posts, that's your perception of what they've said. From my perspective you continually overblow their claims. Have they taken the appropriate opportunities to highlight the clear water between themselves and others in the industry? Yes, nothing remotely wrong with being distinctive and flaunting it, we all do that to some degree, its called individualism. But are they - as you continually assert - guilty of ostentatiously egregious pretense (grandiose tautological authorship intended)? Not at all, get over it please, move on.

Open letter was up on facebook and twitter before and some journalist posted on twitter about the new delay before CDPR did officially.

Source of that was made with "old footage" @Wolfmeister1010 ?

 

[CitySeventeen]

I heard that the reason behind the delay is getting rid of a bunch of recently found tiny bits of stupidity from the game by direct order of a certain member of the team.

I'm fine with the delays, as long as the game remains stupid-free.

 

[MkTama]

Of course it will.. Marchin Blacha assures that :lol: