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Servia

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#2,781
Sep 15, 2014
Kinley said:
. I'd definitely wait for more before casting my final judgement on how CDPR is hadling her or any other female character for that matter.
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Oh, I'm far from the final judgement!)
Probably it sounded like that - but it's not so!)
I'm actually the one who always says - wait - they will do it! I'm sure they will.
Final judgement can be laid upon it all only after the game will be released and explored! :)
 
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sidspyker

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#2,782
Sep 15, 2014
Servia said:
To sum up:
I like both games: TW1 and TW2 but it would've been wrong - don't you think - to put everyone up to something "linear-minded".
There are ppl who like the fantasy aspect. There are others who like the realism aspect.
What's bad in that?
And why can't I ask something for the other part? Is it restricted?
Two sides of a coin? huh?
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You're allowed by all means, just thought I should point out that a lot of people might take issue with someone claiming to speak for them by saying "old witcher fans" and provided a bit what I think as an old-ish witcher games fan.

Both the games are incredibly flawed in their own way and TW3 seems to provide for both AND also improve upon both. Geralt's personal story will remain his personal story but he can also get entangled with a place's politics, say Novigrad region or Skellige. So you will have plenty of Geralt and plenty of world.
 
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Kinley

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#2,783
Sep 15, 2014
Servia said:
And in the novels and in the world pan Andrzej created so neat and so alive - everyone is free to chose the aspect he\she prefers.
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Exactly. And I honestly think CDPR did a pretty good job of transferring this aspect to the games. They're complex, different people can like them for different reasons. Just how some people prefer Sapkowski's short stories collections (more focus on Geralt and his adventures) over the saga (broader array of main characters and shift in focus compared to the short stories), or vice-versa.

How I see it: previous games may have focused too much on one aspect or the other, while W3 is trying to bring you "full menu" of everything that you can choose from to your heart's content. And I wish (since this is a wishlist thread hehe) that with a world the size of W3 and CDPR's reputation regarding attention to detail and complexity, the game will satisfy everyone (to some degree at least, if not fully). :)
 
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BRANCHINGSTORIESFTW

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#2,784
Sep 15, 2014
HellKnightX88 said:
I do discuss it with friend but when I do I don't just ask them what they picked and leave it at that. We discuss about the why behind a choice, that's the interesting conversation, hear people rationalize their choice. Knowing that X% of people agreed with me and 100-X% didn't doesn't really do anything for me,
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If i said to you that 80%of players(just speculating, I 've got no actual facts) chose Iorveth over Roche wouldn't you be interested.Each one ,Iorveth and Roche, stands for something so you get a general feeling of what people believe in.Of course you can't hear every player rationalize their choice because of the number of players , but you can get a general impression.
 
ReptilePZ

ReptilePZ

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#2,785
Sep 15, 2014
Kinley said:
the game will satisfy everyone
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That generally doesn't happen, nor is it something CDPR need to strive for.

They only need to please me :p
 
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Kinley

Kinley

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#2,786
Sep 15, 2014
ReptilePZ said:
That generally doesn't happen.
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I'm well aware of that. There are also multiple levels of satisfaction, don't you know. *ahem* Anyhow...

One can hope, right?
 
Szincza

Szincza

Moderator
#2,787
Sep 15, 2014
Kinley said:
A more complex monster hunting mechanic is something I wanted since TW1 and was so absent in TW2, at certain times I started questioning Geralt's profession. Taking a step back from politics (not completely of course, as indicative of countless interviews) is a good move for Witcher 3, in my opinion.
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Questioning Geralt's profession should be the point, imo. Monster hunting mechanics may be a cool feature gameplay-wise, but not so much when it comes to the story. Do you honestly see Geralt running around and looking for monsters to kill, while Ciri is back in his world and is pretty much must wanted?

In the saga Geralt abandoned the pursue after Ciri only for a moment, when he was left clueless reagarding her whereabouts.
He even says it himself, that he's not a Witcher anymore.

Of course - game is a game - compromises have to be made. But I would see something like monster hunting - as it is now - in the first Witcher game, when Geralt had an amnesia, and was kind of trying to grasp the world he's in and people surrounding him. Not at the end of his journey, when all he should care about is Ciri and Yen.

Pardon for my English by the way, I'm not a native speaker :C
 
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HellKnightX88

HellKnightX88

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#2,788
Sep 15, 2014
BRANCHINGSTORIESFTW said:
If i said to you that 80%of players(just speculating, I 've got no actual facts) chose Iorveth over Roche wouldn't you be interested.
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Not that much, no. Like I said, I want to hear people explain why they went with one or the other, was it because they felt bad about how elves are treated, did they feel Iorveth was more charismatic, was Roche an asshole etc. etc. And that's what forums are for, it's why I usually go to the forums of a game after finishing it to see people's take on the endings, the overall story, characters and all that.

Just that 80% number alone isn't really that interesting for me.
 
sidspyker

sidspyker

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#2,789
Sep 15, 2014
szincza said:
Do you honestly see Geralt running around and looking for monsters to kill, while Ciri is back in his world and is pretty much must wanted?
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Do you honestly see Geralt going around taverns playing dice poker, arm wrestling, brawling, doing local monster hunting quests while Triss has been kidnapped by Letho and all he wants to do is go after Triss and the Kingslayer? :p
 
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ReptilePZ

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#2,790
Sep 15, 2014
Kinley said:
I'm well aware of that. There are also multiple levels of satisfaction, don't you know. *ahem* Anyhow...

One can hope, right?
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Well, I hope they don't attempt that, trying to please everyone only dilutes your work. That's my wish, I guess - don't try to make the game for everyone.
 
Szincza

Szincza

Moderator
#2,791
Sep 15, 2014
sidspyker said:
Do you honestly see Geralt going around taverns playing dice poker, arm wrestling, brawling, doing local monster hunting quests while Triss has been kidnapped by Letho and all he wants to do is go after Triss and the Kingslayer? :p
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You have a point.
But I was adressing the whole "questioning Geralt's profession". That should be the point - also when it comes to the White Wolf himself.
 
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BRANCHINGSTORIESFTW

Rookie
#2,792
Sep 15, 2014
HellKnightX88 said:
Not that much, no. Like I said, I want to hear people explain why they went with one or the other, was it because they felt bad about how elves are treated, did they feel Iorveth was more charismatic, was Roche an asshole etc. etc. And that's what forums are for, it's why I usually go to the forums of a game after finishing it to see people's take on the endings, the overall story, characters and all that.

Just that 80% number alone isn't really that interesting for me.
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OK I've got nothing more to add.
 
Kinley

Kinley

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#2,793
Sep 15, 2014
ReptilePZ said:
Well, I hope they don't attempt that, trying to please everyone only dilutes your work. That's my wish, I guess - don't try to make the game for everyone.
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I didn't mean "everyone" in a general sense, it was more aimed at what Witcher fans might expect from a game the magnitude of W3, be it fans that liked the more personal aspect of W1 or the political one of W2. Like I said, focusing just on politics or focusing just on monster hunting is not a great either, there has to be some variety and I believe with a game the magnitude of W3, CDPR can really nail that.

@szincza Keep in mind we also saw examples of Geralt using his profession to get information regarding Ciri, it was actually a common theme within the demos we've seen (griffin quest, Downwarren quest). So I do see Geralt running around killing monsters if he has something to gain from it.
 
Szincza

Szincza

Moderator
#2,794
Sep 15, 2014
@Kinley
How this feature is going to be implemented in the game is another thing.
If it's like you said - hunting quests tied with the story - then there's nothing to worry about.
If it's not, we have a problem.
 
Kinley

Kinley

Ex-moderator
#2,795
Sep 15, 2014
szincza said:
@Kinley
How this feature is going to be implemented in the game is another thing.
If it's like you said - hunting quests tied with the story - then there's nothing to worry about.
If it's not, we have a problem.
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The devs boast that everything has a story tied to it that makes sense, even the mini-games. If they can somehow pull that off in true CDPR fashion, then yeah, there's nothing to worry about.
 
ReptilePZ

ReptilePZ

Wordrunner
#2,796
Sep 15, 2014
Kinley said:
I didn't mean "everyone" in a general sense, it was more aimed at what Witcher fans might expect from a game the magnitude of W3, be it fans that liked the more personal aspect of W1 or the political one of W2. Like I said, focusing just on politics or focusing just on monster hunting is not a great either, there has to be some variety and I believe with a game the magnitude of W3, CDPR can really nail that.
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I don't think you can focus on too many things at the same time while keeping a strong theme. E.g. while I generally don't like the atmosphere of TW2 as much as that of TW1, the game, given the focus on grander political events, would not have worked with TW1's melancholic aesthetics and feel. So, while I'm sure they can offer a lot of different things, just like they did in the previous 2 titles, the focus needs to remain fairly tight or they risk ending up with an inconsistent mess that will please nobody.
 
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Kinley

Kinley

Ex-moderator
#2,797
Sep 15, 2014
ReptilePZ said:
I don't think you can focus on too many things at the same time while keeping a strong theme. E.g. while I generally don't like the atmosphere of TW2 as much as that of TW1, the game, given the focus on grander political events, would not have worked with TW1's melancholic aesthetics and feel. So, while I'm sure they can offer a lot of different things, just like they did in the previous 2 titles, the focus needs to remain fairly tight or they risk ending up with an inconsistent mess that will please nobody.
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I don't get what exactly you're trying to say. All I said was that W3 can have all of the above without compromising it's main scope, mainly due to the size of the world and the three zones that are different thematically.

You have the overarching plot (Geralt finding his loved ones, Wild Hunt menace, etc.) and then you have the local intrigues of each zone. Each zone comes with it's own political interests or monster problems, and can be woven into the main storyline without affecting the main plot's scope.
 
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theta77

CD PROJEKT RED
#2,798
Sep 15, 2014
Servia said:
First of all I have to say that I'm really happy to receive an answer from an "old-team" member and a respectful person. Thank you in any case for paying attention to the post, Mr.Blacha. That really fires up a hope in the old witcher fandom not to be "forgotten" completely.

Cirilla as a character is MarySue in any case and the promo I see as an old witcher-world-fan makes me and my friends fear that the world of men turns into the world of women - too feminised promo. And it's understandable promo-wise as long as you (CDPR) try to capture the new audience with POP-methods.
But please give at least something to the other part of the fandom. Who want something more than cosplay:crazy: , Ciri and monster hunt.
We also hope to hear something more from you and Mr.Pugacz-Muraszkiewicz in the nearest interviews.

Can the Foltest's children's fate plot (not the 5 sec mentioning) at least be confirmed?..:hope:

Thanks again and good luck!
Witcher 3 will be the greatest RPG no matter what in any case.

PS didn't get this part though: "(we also have Richards to rhyme)" :unsure:
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Replaying to that post I must be honest.
The Witcher 3 is more feminised then previous installments, because of Ciri and Yennefer come back, and because it came out that many interesting characters are women. Think about characters from the books: Lodge of Sorceress includes excusively women, but they are engaged into politics and sex is not important, as they are interestning characters. Or think about TW1 - it was about stealing witchers secrets (In TW3 there is Ciri), but still we had other storylines, and we have other storylines in TW3.

Being honest I must agree that Ciri is kinda Mary Sue. We couldn't change her personality, and we didn't want to change the character from the books. After all many fans love her the way she is. We did our best to avoid annoying girl in distress, but it's up to You to decide if You like her. I can only promise, that for Story Team the priority is creating interestning story and characters, not selling the game to Average Joe. Trust me, please, because we remember strong points of TW1 and TW2 and we remember about oldtimers.

I belive I won't dissapoint You. Even if You won't be pleased with some storylines (being the Player You're the boss), I'm quite convinced that You'll find something interestning for Yourself.

I can't write about Foltests children, because I can't talk about story details.

And the "Richard thing" - I didn't want to write that we have chicks but also dicks, to avoid being moderated. But the milk is spiiled - so ok, we have dicks in TW3. ;)
 
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StaGiors

Forum veteran
#2,799
Sep 15, 2014
I'm sure that a certain demographic will have a party after that last statement.

I will try to avoid every Richard in the game. Just to be safe.

Just kidding.
 
ReptilePZ

ReptilePZ

Wordrunner
#2,800
Sep 15, 2014
Kinley said:
I don't get what exactly you're trying to say. All I said was that W3 can have all of the above without compromising it's main scope, mainly due to the size of the world and the three zones that are different thematically.

You have the overarching plot (Geralt finding his loved ones, Wild Hunt menace, etc.) and then you have the local intrigues of each zone. Each zone comes with it's own political interests or monster problems, and can be woven into the main storyline without affecting the main plot's scope.
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Now I don't know what you're saying. In your previous posts, you claimed the game should focus on many (all?) aspects, now you talk about the main plot being about Geralt and the Wild Hunt, with politics being secondary, i.e. not the focus - what I've been explaining all along.
 
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