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BethesdaWare

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#2,981
Nov 15, 2014
taglag said:
Intel64
i5-2550 CPU @ 3.40 GHz 4 core's 4 logical processors
DDR3 4096 x 2
Corsair
8 Gig total on system ram

Dual HD7770 AMD Radeon 1 Gig each total of 2 gig of Vid card Ram

ASETEK 510LC 120MM WATERCOOLER

1TB SATA III 7200 3.5 HARD DRIVE

ASUS P8Z68-V LX INTEL Z68 CROSSFIRE DDR3 SATA 3 USB 3.0 LGA 1155


I play skyrim easy, and keep most everything turned up 1920x1080. But I found witcher 2 very troublesome to get setting right, and playable, although I did finally get solid setting for witcher2 it took a lot of Witcher patches, and tweaking to get it right, and web page hunting to get things running smoothly. I would hope Witcher three does not give that much trouble, I would like to play it, but don't feel like buying a new system just for that game.

I also played "the Evil within" with very solid frame rates also at 1920x1080
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Skyrim is not an adequate benchmark to use for PC gaming. The game was made to run best on consoles, which is why the standard version of the game looks terrible (character models are the most decent part of the visuals) unless you incorporate mods. The Witcher 2, on the other hand, is a better indicator as it's CDPR and it's the same engine. You'll likely be able to play TW3, but it certainly won't be on ultra. 8GB of RAM will probably be the minimum you need and your graphics card is a bit dated, especially if CDPR (which they usually do) pushes PC hardware to its limits. If you are more interested in performance rather than just visuals, however, you'll likely be fine. That depends on how much the game tries to render on the screen at once and whether we'll be able to scale level of detail up or down. This was a major issue with ACU as it does not have scalability, so you need a current high-end PC to even run it (not to mention the bugs).
 
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taglag

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#2,982
Nov 16, 2014
I was just making a wish list, to start with, not and actual analysis of what is proper.

Consoles seem to have the edge when it come to game expansions or sequel's to popular titles. in that most times the same console is used for the expansion, where as PC games Vid cards, and processors are constantly improved, so that a machine you played the game on originally will not play its expansion or sequel for squat. Which is kind of frustrating seeing as how you very much enjoyed the game as it was on the older machine, and now for better shadows, and a wet look you suddenly need a new machine to play the same game, with a different story.

On skyrim by the way I downloaded all the upgraded graphics, the high res, and I run many mod's, including all the better bodies, with hardly any hit to my frame rates, and Skyrim with out tweaks actually only runs on 2 core's, a very old and much updated engine with roots all the way back to Morrowind. And it is a very nice looking game.

I just sometimes feel that some graphics enhancements to some games are really un needed ( or rather add very little), and only promoted to sell the new vid cards. Smooth game play and good games, and common sense compatibility with slightly older machines I think is just good sense it seems like to me, and allows people to have more money to actually purchase new games.
 
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KA1N3R

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#2,983
Nov 18, 2014
taglag said:
Make it playable with out forcing me to go out, and buy the latest, most fastest, most up to date system in the world, and be able to enjoy it, with out turning everything down to the lowest settings.

May be impossible, but sure would be nice. I spent more time tweaking Witcher 2, and searching the internet for everyone's best setting's for optimal game play than playing the game.

I do very much love the games though, it is just that, I just would be very willing to sacrifice, quite a bit of graphic's for nice smooth game play
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howyou describe it sounds like you want a X1 or PS4
 
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fenreck

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#2,984
Nov 18, 2014
i really like VAMPIRES in this game!!!!!!!!! another thin, Where are the Dragons????????????????????????????
 
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taglag

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#2,985
Nov 19, 2014
Hey it is a wish list, Am I not suppose to make a wish ?

I despise console's there limited hand held device's, though functional, allow me very little freedom. Note I said they allow ME very little freedom, many like them very much.
 
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moonknightgog

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#2,986
Nov 21, 2014
No quest marks, please.

I'm playing Dragon Age Inquisition right now. This game is completely messed up, full of fetch quest and quest marks on the map.
I saw the same kind of simplification in the 35 minutes demo, near Johnny's cave (or house). So I beg you REDs, do not put those things in TW3.
 
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shawn_kh

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#2,987
Nov 21, 2014
I'm a little concerned about the quest design as well, especially since we saw the main quest in the 35 min demo.
You go to Dijkstra and he sends you to kill a griffin, you go back then he tells you to go to Johnny, you find Johnny then he asks you to find his voice, you find his voice then he takes you to the old woman, the old woman tells you to go to the village elder, village elder asks you to kill the jungle spirit, then he sends you back to old woman.
If we cut out the extra info the design for all the quests seems the same. You need something, the NPC asks you to do this, you do it, the NPC points you in another direction, the new NPC asks you to do something, and rinse and repeat. I really hope that there is more to the quest design.
 
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missilenoss

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#2,988
Nov 23, 2014
Could we choose which battle song we prefer? How about Witcher 1 and Witcher 2 battle songs option instead of Witcher 3 or all of them like a playlist. Maybe in MENU, setting to listen to game soundtrack! or even in game when we are in the Novigrad INN we can request any from Witcher games and while we are inside the INN we can listen to our favorite track :)

This one is least possible but I will try anyway. I wish Witcher 3 had our own Geralt creator option or plastic surgeon npc like barber in Novigrad. It took me 2 hours to finally decided how will my elf archer look like in DA. I love character creators :)
 
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ONLY_ONCE

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#2,989
Nov 23, 2014
shawn_kh said:
I'm a little concerned about the quest design as well, especially since we saw the main quest in the 35 min demo.
You go to Dijkstra and he sends you to kill a griffin, you go back then he tells you to go to Johnny, you find Johnny then he asks you to find his voice, you find his voice then he takes you to the old woman, the old woman tells you to go to the village elder, village elder asks you to kill the jungle spirit, then he sends you back to old woman.
If we cut out the extra info the design for all the quests seems the same. You need something, the NPC asks you to do this, you do it, the NPC points you in another direction, the new NPC asks you to do something, and rinse and repeat. I really hope that there is more to the quest design.
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I get your point, but isn't that just how it goes. It's the nature of rpg video game, It's going to be way better than skyrim. What is your idea to make it better bro?
I'm all ears
:)
 
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Someonelse

Forum regular
#2,990
Nov 23, 2014
taglag said:
Intel64
i5-2550 CPU @ 3.40 GHz 4 core's 4 logical processors
DDR3 4096 x 2
Corsair
8 Gig total on system ram

Dual HD7770 AMD Radeon 1 Gig each total of 2 gig of Vid card Ram

ASETEK 510LC 120MM WATERCOOLER

1TB SATA III 7200 3.5 HARD DRIVE

ASUS P8Z68-V LX INTEL Z68 CROSSFIRE DDR3 SATA 3 USB 3.0 LGA 1155


I play skyrim easy, and keep most everything turned up 1920x1080. But I found witcher 2 very troublesome to get setting right, and playable, although I did finally get solid setting for witcher2 it took a lot of Witcher patches, and tweaking to get it right, and web page hunting to get things running smoothly. I would hope Witcher three does not give that much trouble, I would like to play it, but don't feel like buying a new system just for that game.

I also played "the Evil within" with very solid frame rates also at 1920x1080
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Sorry, but it doesn't work like that - they don't stack.
 
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Thothistox

Senior user
#2,991
Nov 23, 2014
ONLY ONCE said:
I get your point, but isn't that just how it goes. It's the nature of rpg video game, It's going to be way better than skyrim. What is your idea to make it better bro?
I'm all ears
:)
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I didn't read the whole thread, but I can think of a few ways. For one thing, there should be some mystery to the story. We might be presented with an ambiguous situation that looks different depending on who you talk to and what you say to them. So, instead of fetching and fedexing, you might be looking for clues. This sort of thing was already done in both TW1 and TW2. Instead of pursuing objects we should be unraveling the events of a story.
 
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ONLY_ONCE

Rookie
#2,992
Nov 24, 2014
thothistox said:
I didn't read the whole thread, but I can think of a few ways. For one thing, there should be some mystery to the story. We might be presented with an ambiguous situation that looks different depending on who you talk to and what you say to them. So, instead of fetching and fedexing, you might be looking for clues. This sort of thing was already done in both TW1 and TW2. Instead of pursuing objects we should be unraveling the events of a story.
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Oh I'm sure we will, we really no nothing so I hope we are in for some surprize.:)
 
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kissybyc

Rookie
#2,993
Nov 29, 2014
ONLY ONCE said:
I get your point, but isn't that just how it goes. It's the nature of rpg video game, It's going to be way better than skyrim. What is your idea to make it better bro?
I'm all ears
:)
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Another way to increase immersion is to provide strong and believable lore behind each quest, so they would appear less like an obvious formulaic repetition. For example, we should be told what the struggle between the Crones and the tree spirit was about, or why Dijkstra cared about that griffin. Did the crone need the elderman's ear as a magic boost? Did the griffin threaten one of Dijkstra's black market operations, so he could only hire a third-party witcher? If the player was told such information, I'd feel more immersive when sent to finish those quests.
 
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ONLY_ONCE

Rookie
#2,994
Nov 29, 2014
kissybyc said:
Another way to increase immersion is to provide strong and believable lore behind each quest, so they would appear less like an obvious formulaic repetition. For example, we should be told what the struggle between the Crones and the tree spirit was about, or why Dijkstra cared about that griffin. Did the crone need the elderman's ear as a magic boost? Did the griffin threaten one of Dijkstra's black market operations, so he could only hire a third-party witcher? If the player was told such information, I'd feel more immersive when sent to finish those quests.
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Well we have only been shown a small part of the game, for all we know it is more like what you say. It's a mystery.
 
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echohaxorelite

Rookie
#2,995
Nov 30, 2014
Pax_Augusta said:
Skyrim is not an adequate benchmark to use for PC gaming. The game was made to run best on consoles, which is why the standard version of the game looks terrible (character models are the most decent part of the visuals) unless you incorporate mods. The Witcher 2, on the other hand, is a better indicator as it's CDPR and it's the same engine. You'll likely be able to play TW3, but it certainly won't be on ultra. 8GB of RAM will probably be the minimum you need and your graphics card is a bit dated, especially if CDPR (which they usually do) pushes PC hardware to its limits. If you are more interested in performance rather than just visuals, however, you'll likely be fine. That depends on how much the game tries to render on the screen at once and whether we'll be able to scale level of detail up or down. This was a major issue with ACU as it does not have scalability, so you need a current high-end PC to even run it (not to mention the bugs).
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8Gb VRAM you say? Shadow of Mordor was 6gb, only because of the textures and that was an unoptimized game due to just the fact of that, i doubt you'll need 8gb for maxed out... least i hope. lol i don't see many games pushing past 4gb these days and they are getting near 60's fps 1080p for cards like 780,780ti, R9 290/R9 290x, 970/980 even 770 does pretty alright, other than that atm theres only Titan and i think 6gb AMD cards and possibly 6gb Nividia cards though most people have the 780/780i or the r9 290/290x or 970/980 who have AAA games at ultra with good FPS

Simply isn't much of a market for high end expensive video cards such as the titan (though they did mention that in an interview) BUT they also said that they used several cards including the titan and that at the time the game was NOT optimized, so why would they make a game that there wasn't much of a market for due to the expensive GPU's, And for people who want to play maxed out or at least high/very high on PC and as people have said CDPR is supporting the PC gaming industry not just console


My bad if you meant RAM as in memory
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#2,996
Nov 30, 2014
I read it that he meant system RAM, not VRAM. Anyway, TW2's good at budgeting both, so I don't think we're going to see a new game on an updated Red Engine that makes unjustified demands on either. Memory bandwidth is likely to be a factor, with CPUs older than Sandy Bridge or AMD FX, and GPUs with 128-bit buses, being limited by how fast you can deliver resources to the GPU.
 
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echohaxorelite

Rookie
#2,997
Nov 30, 2014
Guy N'wah said:
I read it that he meant system RAM, not VRAM. Anyway, TW2's good at budgeting both, so I don't think we're going to see a new game on an updated Red Engine that makes unjustified demands on either. Memory bandwidth is likely to be a factor, with CPUs older than Sandy Bridge or AMD FX, and GPUs with 128-bit buses, being limited by how fast you can deliver resources to the GPU.
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yeah true i think memory will be an up coming thing for all to upgrade so your not bottlenecking by RAM but at least its not the most expensive part of upgrading, as all these new and way more resourses are coming into games i totally agree

And yeah i realised after re-reading his post about Ram...was thinking about VRAM lol
 
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hardom

Rookie
#2,998
Nov 30, 2014
If it was vram then your GPU would be a shitty bottlenecker :p
 
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echohaxorelite

Rookie
#2,999
Nov 30, 2014
hardom said:
If it was vram then your GPU would be a shitty bottlenecker :p
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lucky it aint, i just cant wait to see specs requirements, see how much juice this game will pump :)
 
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SpotEnemyBoat

Rookie
#3,000
Dec 1, 2014
I just hope the game doesn't require a GTX 680 for minimum, what happened with ACU is completely bullshit optimization. So many bad ports since the new consoles came out. If Evil Within, Shadow of Mordor and ACU can run on tablet type CPU/GPU (PS4/Xbone) then there is no excuse why it requires a Kepler GPU!

I have a GTX 780 3 GB SC and an AMD FX 8150, so I'll probably be fine for medium or high settings. I just want my 60 FPS.
 
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