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Well I kind of assume that she's "softer" toward Geralt because she has to if she wants to play mother with Ciri. As much as Ciri liked her, she loves Geralt way more. While Yennefer ins't big on the family thing, for some reason she's obsessed with having a child, and Ciri just seems like a good compromise. Hell wouldn't want a God-Child.
Now that I mention it I found it incredibly awkward when Ciri's calls her "mother". Dear god Child you had a mother for good ten years and you barely spent any time, calling her a mentor would be a stretch.
While I think I agree with you, it's telling that she never once called Geralt "father"...
(my inner fangirl was waiting for that the whole series)
And thanks StaGiors!!
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I think she hasn't called him father because she would know that Geralt wouldn't like that, make him uneasy or straight up wouldn't care. Geralt has no issues with the lack of children. Maybe she said it to Yennefer simply out of compassion, considering what she suffered through, maybe Ciri thought to throw her a bone, or she wanted to throw the bone but noticed that she likes it to.
Wasn't it that Pavetta died in some "storm" years before the fall of Cintra, leaving Ciri behind at the haven? I'm not sure how old she was back then, but in my opinion she was brought up mainly by Calanthe.
But, despite this, I can understand you. It was a bit surprising when Ciri called Yen "mother" the first time, but later I just thought it fits.
That is correct. Pavetta died shortly after Ciri was born.
Also Geralt certainly has issues with not being able to become a father. CDPR portrays that in the first game, during a discussion with Eskel, and it is hinted many times in the books, for example, Geralt's talk with his mother Visenna.
About Yennefer, it does appear weird when someone reads the books for the first time, because a lot of stuff is going on, during the time Ciri was being taught Magic in Ellander by Yennefer, so one might not notice the relationship that is being established. I'd recommend reading these scenes again, keeping in mind that Yennefer and Ciri are developing a mother-daughter relationship. It will make sense I believe. At least it did for me.
Also Geralt certainly has issues with not being able to become a father. CDPR portrays that in the first game, during a discussion with Eskel, and it is hinted many times in the books, for example, Geralt's talk with his mother Visenna.
About Yennefer, it does appear weird when someone reads the books for the first time, because a lot of stuff is going on, during the time Ciri was being taught Magic in Ellander by Yennefer, so one might not notice the relationship that is being established. I'd recommend reading these scenes again, keeping in mind that Yennefer and Ciri are developing a mother-daughter relationship. It will make sense I believe. At least it did for me.
OK it's not that Geralt has issues with no being able to be a father, but it's not really a major problem for him, he can live without. While Yennefer lives for that, it's one of her main goals in life.That is correct. Pavetta died shortly after Ciri was born.
Also Geralt certainly has issues with not being able to become a father. CDPR portrays that in the first game, during a discussion with Eskel, and it is hinted many times in the books, for example, Geralt's talk with his mother Visenna.
About Yennefer, it does appear weird when someone reads the books for the first time, because a lot of stuff is going on, during the time Ciri was being taught Magic in Ellander by Yennefer, so one might not notice the relationship that is being established. I'd recommend reading these scenes again, keeping in mind that Yennefer and Ciri are developing a mother-daughter relationship. It will make sense I believe. At least it did for me.
Now Ciri couldn't have spent more then 6 months probably less with Yennefer in Ellander (please correct me on this), being thought magic and other stuff. I'm sorry but people spend years with foster parents without adopting them as "mother" or "father", some people even need decades for this. I mean Calanthe probably had a big role in Ciri's life until the fall of Cintra, even Triss was very "educational" toward her.
I don't know I just can't buy that without it feeling cringe inducing and awkward for me. There's also another thing. If that was the "gentle" Ciri before Thanned I would maybe have bought it, but this Ciri saw some serious shit, established quite a personality, confidence and self awareness, it doesn't seem like she yearns for a mother, simply more for some peace and quite among people who love her.
That's why I think it's more her kindness than actual sincerity. Having or "creating" a child for yourself is way easier, than getting a parent, it's not something that comes and goes.
Right, but others don't.
While being abroad I lived in a host family and after three months I called my host father a "father". And, on the other hand. I know some crazy people who even call their parents by their first names
I see it more in the way @StaGiors does it. In the beginning, it was kind of ... strange. But later it made perfect sense. Well, after the third read ...
My husband and I were talking and realized we have no answer to this question -
Whatever happened to Dol Blathanna? It's not mentioned in the games. I know it was somewhat absorbed by Aedirn, but Findabair's still Queen/Dutchess, right? Was it conquered outright before the games? Dissolved? Did the game writers just not want to deal with it?
EDIT: heh, checked the wiki again, totally missed you talking with Iorveth about it. But still, that doesn't give too much info and I haven't played through siding with Iorveth in forever. Is it still technically Aedirn? Wiki says Findabair is Nilfgaard's puppet essentially ... I wonder how that would work if she was a foreign Dutchy?
Whole situation is confusing to be honest. Just looking for clarification I guess
Whatever happened to Dol Blathanna? It's not mentioned in the games. I know it was somewhat absorbed by Aedirn, but Findabair's still Queen/Dutchess, right? Was it conquered outright before the games? Dissolved? Did the game writers just not want to deal with it?
EDIT: heh, checked the wiki again, totally missed you talking with Iorveth about it. But still, that doesn't give too much info and I haven't played through siding with Iorveth in forever. Is it still technically Aedirn? Wiki says Findabair is Nilfgaard's puppet essentially ... I wonder how that would work if she was a foreign Dutchy?
Whole situation is confusing to be honest. Just looking for clarification I guess
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As to how Dol Blathanna can be both a duchy of Aedirn and a puppet tributary of Nilfgaard at the same time, remember two things:
One, it's really remote; it's "where the devil says goodnight". The Peace of Cintra made it Aedirnian land, but the journey from Vengerberg is one few civil servants would undertake and even fewer would survive.
Two, the elves don't much like being subordinate to Aedirn; Nilfgaard gave them back this ancestral land, but Aedirn sicced Rayla on them.
One, it's really remote; it's "where the devil says goodnight". The Peace of Cintra made it Aedirnian land, but the journey from Vengerberg is one few civil servants would undertake and even fewer would survive.
Two, the elves don't much like being subordinate to Aedirn; Nilfgaard gave them back this ancestral land, but Aedirn sicced Rayla on them.
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So as Guy said, Dol Blathanna's state is quite strange after the end of the books, and even more so by the end of the second game.
After the second war with Nilfgaard and the Battle of Brenna, Nilfgaard was forced to relinquish their power over Dol Blathanna. The Elven State was to become a Dutchy of Aedirn, and so it happened. Dol Blathanna's relationship with Nilfgaard, after the fact, is not stated in the books, but I would assume that it is quite strained. Since the Northern Kingdoms also demanded from Nilfgaard, that the Vrihedd Brigade be executed. The Vrihedd brigade, was a unit of Elves that fought for Nilfgaard, though they were mainly former Scoia'tael. Nilfgaard agreed to kill only the leaders of the Brigade, which was about 100 people. Isengrim Faoiltiarna, and Iorveth seem to be the only ones that escaped that fate.
Keep in mind though, that Dol Blathanna, and Francesca never openly supported the Scoia'tael, or offered them shelter. They just helped them survive from time to time.
Now a certain event in the second game, could have changed Dol Blathanna's fate. Demavend, King of Aedirn, was assassinated. The country was in turmoil, Upper Aedirn "rebelled", and it is safe to assume that Dol Blathanna, did not remain that loyal. So right now, it might actually be a free state, or secretly supporting Nilfgaard again.
However I highly doubt that the latter is the case. The Scoia'tael will never fight for Nilfgaard again. Not after Nilfgaard's betrayal. No matter Vattier de Rideaux and Shilard Fitz Oesterlen say, that Nilfgaard was forced to give up the commanders of the Vrihedd Brigade, even if it is true, doesn't change the fact that Elves view and will keep viewing it as a betrayal. And since that is the case, I doubt the elves would split up even more. The Scoia'tael and the Elves of Dol Blathanna will have to stay together, or they will be wiped out.
Anyway, my point is, that at the moment, I strongly believe that Dol Blathanna is a "free" state.
After the second war with Nilfgaard and the Battle of Brenna, Nilfgaard was forced to relinquish their power over Dol Blathanna. The Elven State was to become a Dutchy of Aedirn, and so it happened. Dol Blathanna's relationship with Nilfgaard, after the fact, is not stated in the books, but I would assume that it is quite strained. Since the Northern Kingdoms also demanded from Nilfgaard, that the Vrihedd Brigade be executed. The Vrihedd brigade, was a unit of Elves that fought for Nilfgaard, though they were mainly former Scoia'tael. Nilfgaard agreed to kill only the leaders of the Brigade, which was about 100 people. Isengrim Faoiltiarna, and Iorveth seem to be the only ones that escaped that fate.
Keep in mind though, that Dol Blathanna, and Francesca never openly supported the Scoia'tael, or offered them shelter. They just helped them survive from time to time.
Now a certain event in the second game, could have changed Dol Blathanna's fate. Demavend, King of Aedirn, was assassinated. The country was in turmoil, Upper Aedirn "rebelled", and it is safe to assume that Dol Blathanna, did not remain that loyal. So right now, it might actually be a free state, or secretly supporting Nilfgaard again.
However I highly doubt that the latter is the case. The Scoia'tael will never fight for Nilfgaard again. Not after Nilfgaard's betrayal. No matter Vattier de Rideaux and Shilard Fitz Oesterlen say, that Nilfgaard was forced to give up the commanders of the Vrihedd Brigade, even if it is true, doesn't change the fact that Elves view and will keep viewing it as a betrayal. And since that is the case, I doubt the elves would split up even more. The Scoia'tael and the Elves of Dol Blathanna will have to stay together, or they will be wiped out.
Anyway, my point is, that at the moment, I strongly believe that Dol Blathanna is a "free" state.
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Me to, and in the Saskia ending, even more so. I wouldn't be surprised they two try to form an Alliance.
Man I really wish we see Francesca Findabair in w3
Reading about Sapkowski's vampires a bit, and I remembered something that kind of got me confused.
I really don't understand what is Reggis saying here. That vampires represent the hidden desire for oral sex? What?
I have left this myth until the end,’ Regis measured him with his eyes, ‘and I myself, would tactfully not have touched on it had Geralt not challenged me, so I won’t spare you. In Humans the strongest cause of anxiety is sexual. The virgin fainting in the embrace of the bloodsucking vampire, or the youngster exposed to the insolent mouth of the vampire, wandering over their naked body. As you can imagine. Oral rape. The vampire paralyzes its victim with fear and forces her to perform oral sex. Or rather a hideous parody of oral sex. And as this sex excludes procreation, it is detestable.
‘An act that does not lead to procreation but to pleasure and death,’ continued Regis. ‘You have made into an evil myth. Many men and women secretly want something similar, and yet are reluctant to provide their partner with anything but the generally accepted sexual stereotype. So we do it for you in this vampire mythology and thus it grows into a fascinating symbol of evil.’
Yes and no. I mean, there is more to it. What he is saying is this. Humans like to have sexual acts that do not necessarily lead to procreation. That however was not accepted as something that is normal.
Any sexual relationship that does not lead to procreation, is not accepted by Society. Or rather it is not commendable. I believe that in the witcher world, this belief has also religious roots, as it has in our world.
So, since society sees sexual acts that do not lead to procreation, as "evil", humans have found an "escape" from that issue. It is not them doing it. It is the "inherently evil" bloodsucking vampire that does it.
That's about it I think.
That was certainly my interpretation. Whatever human society frowned on (sexually speaking), but secretly desired could easily be blamed on having been hypnotised by an "evil" vampire.
p.s. Regis rocks
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And this same fascination with vampires (or incubi, or succubi) as agents of illicit sex is still with us and largely responsible for the enduring appeal of vampire stories. Carmilla, Dracula, Lestat, even poor sparkly Edward. They have sex appeal that's only made greater by it being so wrong.
I hope the Conclusion CD Projekt will offer in the third opus, will be satisfying!Something Ends .... Something Begins
Ciri that naughty brat keeps on run away.
I don't know if it's due to the french translation, but Geralt seems to don't care about her when she finds her.
And Ciri flies away AGAIN!
I don't know if it's due to the french translation, but Geralt seems to don't care about her when she finds her.
And Ciri flies away AGAIN!
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