You're not aware? The Witcher Remake is currently in development
The Witcher Remake is in development!
We are thrilled to announce that The Witcher Remake is being worked on!
Cool, can we please just delay TW4 indefinitely for now and just pour resources in this one? It would actually save CDPR's reputation right now.You're not aware? The Witcher Remake is currently in development
The Witcher Remake is in development!
We are thrilled to announce that The Witcher Remake is being worked on!www.thewitcher.com
TW1 in proper HD graphics, sex scenes included... we have not one but two games to look forward toYou're not aware? The Witcher Remake is currently in development
The Witcher Remake is in development!
We are thrilled to announce that The Witcher Remake is being worked on!
Oh they can go further than that. I want an open world extravaganza like TW3. To have Geralt remain the protagonist for the next 2 Witcher titles? That's a lot of money they could be making. Instead they went with Ciri, of all people, as the next Witcher MC? What happened to all the sensible people in CDPR? Did they all get fired or something?
Disappointing that it's all Ciri. I would prefer my own character or more Geralt. Does look good I guess but I probably won't pick this up.
We're thrilled to reveal the first look at The Witcher IV!
The Witcher IV will be a single-player open-world RPG. It marks the beginning of a new saga with Ciri as a protagonist, embarking on her own journey to become a professional monster slayer.
The trailer was produced in cooperation with Platige Image.
Although the puerile "romance" cards are not being added back and that's causing a whole bunch of people to be get their panties in a bunch too.
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I think it's fair to say that most people know her from Witcher 3, so it is that version I'm referring to - the one which also was "created out of thin air" and deviated from the books in how she is portrayed, in part because her book version was... questionable at times, but in part because books ended with her being a teenager, while Witcher 3 starts with her being a young adult.
I will not berate J. K. Rowling for having Harry Potter in Deathly Hallows behave differently than he did in Philosopher's Stone or Chamber of Secrets. Just like I won't berate CDPR for making a 28 (ish) year old woman behave differently than she did when she was 20. It's called character progression and making Ciri not only a witcher, but a more serious, angsty one than the character she was before makes complete sense not only from the desires she expressed previously, but from the events that she endured as well.
TW3 Ciri was still tethered to the book version, there would be minor differences, but I don't know of any major deviations in her characterisation. The point is, TW1 to TW3 had the books to fall back on, if it had ever lost its way. The books were the compass they could use whenever they need to.
TW4 is completely uncharted territory. This is a brand new Ciri, and I don't see any trace of the old Ciri, other than some visual consistencies like her hair colour and scar. I maintain the Ciri that was just revealed in this trailer is just a re-skin of Geralt, the similarities are unmistakable. There's a lot they need to explain with this Ciri, like why she decided to go against both Geralt and Vesemir's wishes to become a full fledged Witcher. But ultimately it doesn't matter what their explanation is, they've already lost a lot of the old fanbase for this franchise with this announcement. Any explanation would just fall on deaf ears at this point. So no, this new Ciri is not a "beloved" character, no one knows yet how she will truly be received until the game comes out.
The devs for TW4 are now cursed for the next few years with defending their decisions here, which is a sign this was not a well thought out strategy. They put themselves into this position either on purpose, or via negligence. I think they've lost touch with the Witcher community as a whole and it shows. If Kalemba had a good explanation for choosing Ciri as the next protagonist, he would've given it by now. He clearly doesn't.
Sure, that's because JK Rowling is a talented writer and character arcs and growth is expected. On the other hand, plenty of people berated Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi vs the Luke Skywalker of the older SW movies. When the character arc doesn't make any sense, then expect criticisms, and rightly so.
TW3 gave us a choice of arcs for Ciri, which culminated in either her becoming an Empress, dead, or joining Geralt in his Witcher adventures. My chosen arc for Ciri was her becoming the Empress, because that was the most mature Ciri possible and I like my characters to mature over time and end up making practical decisions, here prioritising the needs of the realm over her own personal wants. Ciri receiving a Witcher sword and joining Geralt was still "immature" Ciri, because she still can't bear being away from her "father" and wants to latch on to him some more. Of course, Ciri's death would mean she would make no appearance in TW4 but it would be a fitting ending for such a dark and somber world.
The overall point here is her arc/story is complete, and I don't see the need to continue it. Hence why I believe TW4 is fan service territory.
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They couldn't use books for compassing anything, because the books have already ended by that point. They weren't adapting them, they were writing a sequel: the return of the Wild Hunt, the White Frost plotline, the third Northern War, Cerys' character - none of it was in the books, it is, like you say, "uncharted territory".
Hell, I would argue that the best parts of Witcher 3 were the ones that had no relation to the books at all - like the aforementioned Cerys or Hearts of Stone.
Lmao, "cursed with defending their decision". You are so dramatic.
He absolutely has and he did give it, actually - it's just not the one you like. He did say that Ciri is a very important character in the books, that making her a full-fledged witcher was something they've pondered for a while and that it will be a major plot point in the game. It is an absolutely sufficient explanation, as good as any.
The fact that you think that making a secondary protagonist from the book and the third game a main character in the sequel is somehow "Losing touch with the community" and less justifiable than making a blank slate protagonist is not an objective critique. Especially considering that blank slate would face similar issue of "girls can't be witchers", which leaves us with two options:
1) they add women in character creation, we get the same level of "reee" from usual suspects;
2) they exclude women from character creation, only allowing to create men, which leaves us either with actual Geralt 2.0, but way blander, or some new personality - which still would be "uncharted territory", because you can't "reference the books" anymore.
If anything, adding Ciri as a witcher now feels like way more of a logical middle step between pre-set protagonist and character creation, because the potential next trilogy/spin-off with character creation would already have all the groundwork laid for it - both in terms of "where are the new witchers coming from?" and "do they recruit women?".
Geralt's arc/story was actually complete when the games started - can you give me a good justification for why was brining the guy back from the "dead" more excusable than assuming that a 20 year old woman has a lot of stories and adventures waiting for her?
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How much of the soul of TW1 will actually make it through to the end product though....I am no longer excited for this either.
The analogy of a "compass" is that the character traits of Ciri from the books are mostly intact in the game. A compass always points North, it's meant to indicate reliability whenever one is lost or in new territory. If they had a "compass" to use, they could safely write new material without it being sacrilege to the original text or intentions of the creator. There is no "compass" with TW4, they've waddled into new territory without one. It doesn't look like Kalemba respects the source material.
Categorically false, since they added female V in CP2077 and no one batted an eyelid. Because CP2077 was adapted from a pen and paper RPG and that was expected. Character creators are in many AAA RPGs, I don't recall almost anyone complaining about gender options.
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Geralt is not a secondary character of the books - the books started with him. The very first short story 'The Witcher' was how it started and there have been many more since.
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Women do not become Witchers - simple as. That doesn't mean you can't develop stories and games set in that universe based on female characters - just make them a spin-off or whatever, rather than replace well established canon. If you are going to make stories about Witchers, you make stories about Witchers and follow the rules.
That's why I wasn't talking about him - I was talking about Ciri.
1) Books don't state that;
2) Games state that the first batch of children included girls, who unfortunatelly didn't make it through the Trials. It doesn't say that they absolutely, under no circumstances can't fix the formula in the future - because mortality for boys in that experiment was also through the roof, just less than 100%.
They've mutated an adult woman in Witcher 1 already, there is a table-top example of female witchers, they can just say that the formula got improved and move on, it's not hard.
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Oh really? I don't remember her being a bloodthirsty psychopath, killing people for fun, or a deeply traumatized teenager with PTSD in the games - probably because it didn't happen in Witcher 3. Probably because devs realized that her character needs to change and grow, both with age and to court newer audiences.
And probably, we can apply the same logic here.
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There is literally a guy below your post who says that women can't be witchers, the circumstances are clearly different.
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So TW3 Ciri is so bad they need her character to grow some more and be nicer in TW4?
They omitted her dark past in TW3, that doesn't mean her past was written out of canon. I like to think of TW3 Ciri as a more grown up version of book Ciri, but there were hints of her troubled past in the game, it almost made me want to read the books to find out about it.
Completely irrelevant since he's just one person and he's not talking about character creators. How many of the 25 million people that purchased CP2077 complained that there was a female option for V? How did the game even sell that many copies if your claim is true?
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I'm perfectly fine with that, I vastly prefer the TW3/TW2 sex scenes
No, I'm talking about the logic of how characters grow and change with age.
You said that Ciri in W3 is cool, because they used books as guidelines - and they did, to an extent, but a big bulk of her character is entirely on CDPR and their interpretation of how a grown up Ciri will behave. They've succeeded once, I believe they will succeed again.
*30 million people
Anyway,
>guy brings up how there can be no female witchers in a Witcher game
>"completely irrelevant, let's talk about how no one minded female V in Cyberpunk"
Again - if you want to have the same character creator in Witcher as the one in Cyberpunk, then you will have to explain the female witchers, who didn't appear in the books or games before, to the point where some people think they are impossible - something that Witcher 4 is apparently going to do. It has ZERO relevance to Cyberpunk having a female option.
My mistake.
1) The books and stories have been running since the 80s - there has never been a female Witcher in any of them.
2) The Trials are over, their secrets lost - there is nothing to fix or improve upon. Plus, it was a horrible program to do anyway! Its 100% something that be over and done with. Pretty sure in TW1 Jacques de Aldersberg did not utilise the Trial of the Grasses to create the mutants you refer to. That "female witcher" was not a witcher at all.
She had grown past that by the end of the books, the games made her older for sure.
I actually don't, because the people who will choose to play as a female Witcher do not need an explanation, and the people that choose NOT to play as a female Witcher also don't need an explanation, because they will be too busy enjoying the game as a male Witcher. That's the beauty of a character creator, everyone gets their gender of choice and there is no war. Also, if people love Ciri so much they can still include her in the game, in various configurations if need be (depending on the player's choice in TW3).
I also said her story is done. Only a niche group wants to see her continue her journey, and sadly members of that group have risen in power within the company and have hijacked the game to create their dream narrative. Ciri in TW3 is near perfection, they should quit whilst they're ahead. ...
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The books don't have a mention of Gaunter O'Dimm or an absolutely jacked witcher from the south named Letho - they don't really mention other schools at all, as far as I remember - but the games implemented and explained them anyway.
Trials are indeed awful and I'm curious to see what story reason there will be for Ciri to revive/participate in revival of such a horrible program, but Yennefer was quite literally using Trials to save a certain elf and Jacques de Aldersberg was using explicitly witcher mutagens to transform White Rayla, who was an adult. Also, female witcher is from table-top (https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Dragonfly_(witcher).
And now, Ciri is even more mature and capable, while still being young enough to leave some room for an arc.
Oh, so your solution is to literally ignore the thing you don't like? Lol, how would you manage to do that if the game contained some female witchers as NPCs?
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