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The Yennefer/Triss choice in TW3

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SeasonedWitcher

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#1,541
Jul 2, 2014
That angry Triss emoticon can watch me all day long!
 
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Foxtrot1994

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#1,542
Jul 2, 2014
Synvael said:
... where's Yennefer emoticon when I need it. Damn.
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Ha! One win for me! Muahahahahahahahah!
 
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Sephira

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#1,543
Jul 2, 2014
Twilight love story could have worked better with some adjustments. But I've only read the first book, so can't write a satisfying opinion about it.
 
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Foxtrot1994

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#1,544
Jul 2, 2014
Synvael said:
Twilight love story could have worked better with some adjustments. But I've only read the first book, so can't write a satisfying opinion about it.
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Don't read the rest! You can still be saved!
 
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EcoSeis

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#1,545
Jul 2, 2014
seasonedwitcher said:
This is an RPG games forum, it's implied in my post that it's RPGs I was referring to. If there is no choices or too much railroading in an 'RPG,' then it's pointless playing it.
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I repeat, that´s the problem, RPG. doesn´t mean Free Roaming, this is The Witcher, and has a character named Geralt of Rivia, and many others, not an unnamed, random characters, for you to customize, a mage, an archer, a cook, to be a saint, or a children serial killer, just because... Let´s not confuse things here...

CDPR are doing their best, to within the defined characters and stories boundries, of the books and the lore, without compromising that in an unfaithful way, make the best FAN-FICTION sequel they can, the same way if I´m gonna do an Spiderman game, maybe I can from the lore, take into account a few different possibilities, but respect the "lore", you know what I mean? things like Mary Jane or Gwen Stacy, friendship with Harry, Im not gonna make him date Flash Thompson...
Or kill babies...

Note: My meaning wasn´t about Triss, a very well written script, about her, can be very good to the plot of the game, she isn´t my choice as hardcore books fanboy, but I would appreciate, her as a good character, and everyone else can do whatever they want, this was just to emphasize how this games works on terms of role playing game, no matter what anyone wants, it´s based on lore, and defined characters, it isn´t a new I.P. or spin-off, with new characters to build from the ground. :)
 
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SeasonedWitcher

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Jul 2, 2014
EcoSeis said:
I repeat, that´s the problem, RPG. doesn´t mean Free Roaming, this is The Witcher, and has a character named Geralt of Rivia, and many others, not an unnamed, random charcacter, for you to customize, a mage, an archer, a cook, to be a saint, or a children serial killer, just because... Let´s not confuse things here...

CDPR are doing their best, to within the defined characters and stories boundries, of the books and the lore, without compromising that in an unfaithful way, make the best FAN-FICTION sequel they can, the same way if I´m gonna do an Spiderman game, maybe I can from the lore, take into account a few different possibilities, but respect the "lore", you know what I mean? things like Mary Jane or Gwen Stacy, friendship with Harry, Im not gonna make him date Flash Thompson...

Note: My meaning wasn´t about Triss, a very well written script, about her, can be very good to the plot of the game, she isn´t my choice as hardcore books fanboy, but I would appreciate, her as a good character, and everyone else can do whatever they want, this was just to emphasize how this games works on terms of role playing game, no matter what anyone wants, it´s based on lore, and defined characters, it isn´t a new I.P. or spin-off, with new characters to build from the ground. :)
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Strawman, that's not what I said. Playing Geralt does not absolve CDPR from giving the players choice. They play a specific character, but they still make said characters choices. CDPR are going to have to split with the books on this one, as they have already done many times before, so it's not like it's a big deal.
 
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Sephira

Sephira

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Jul 2, 2014
Foxtrot1994 said:
Don't read the rest! You can still be saved!
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I will do it, one day or another. :p

All of sudden, it came to my mind a third possible love interest: Fringilla Vigo.

 
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SeasonedWitcher

Senior user
#1,548
Jul 2, 2014
Synvael said:
I see, it's simple don't worry. Just select the posts you want with the third button on the right and then click on reply with quote instead of multi-quote when you select the last message you want. Done. ;)

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Cheers!
 
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Foxtrot1994

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#1,549
Jul 2, 2014
Synvael said:
I will do it, one day or another. :p

All of sudden, it came to my mind a third possible love interest: Fringilla Vigo.

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Mmm ineresting indeed... what if "tra i due litiganti, il terzo gode"? That would piss both Yen and Triss off. A lot. Hahahahaha
 
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Sephira

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Jul 2, 2014
Foxtrot1994 said:
Mmm ineresting indeed... what if "tra i due litiganti, il terzo gode"? That would piss both Yen and Triss off. A lot. Hahahahaha
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LOL
Between the two litigants has the third? (is that the correct english translation? I didn't even know there was, anyway lol)

The third will hate pizza. Yum.

 
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EcoSeis

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#1,551
Jul 2, 2014
seasonedwitcher said:
Strawman, that's not what I said. Playing Geralt does not absolve CDPR from giving the players choice. They play a specific character, but they still make said characters choices. CDPR are going to have to spit with the books on this one, as they have already done many times before, so it's not like it's a big deal.
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I don´t know what you have read, but that´s precisely what I said, within characters boundries, they can write a few variations of scripts, always respecting the characters, about choices they are present because they want them to be there, they are not required to do that, it´s their will, and they will do it, WITHIN THE CHARACTERS BOUNDRIES, that was all my point, beacuse you implied, again, something without totally freedom wasn´t an RPG.

Again, I don´t know what you read, but I never said anything about the game not having choices, the opposite, and explained how the RPG The Wtcher works.

@seasonedwitcher "This is an RPG games forum, it's implied in my post that it's RPGs I was referring to. If there is no choices or too much railroading in an 'RPG,' then it's pointless playing it."

How me replying about choices and RPG, to an RPG and choices sentence, is an STRAW (change of subject for what I know) debate, :hmmm:
 
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Foxtrot1994

Rookie
#1,552
Jul 2, 2014
@Synvael you truly have a passion for pizza... stop mention it! Today (I mean, yesterday... fuck, it's 2 am!!) I ate nothing... hunger is still inside me... sob...
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#1,553
Jul 2, 2014
Synvael said:
LOL
Between the two litigants has the third? (is that the correct english translation? I didn't even know there was, anyway lol)

The third will hate pizza. Yum.

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While two dispute, the third enjoys. (Title of an opera by Giuseppe Sarti, in which, about as you'd expect, the third suitor gets the girl while the first two are quarreling. Mozart was fond of this opera and quoted it.)
 
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SeasonedWitcher

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#1,554
Jul 2, 2014
EcoSeis said:
I don´t know what you have read, but that´s precisely what I said, within characters boundries, they can write a few variations of scripts, always respecting the characters, about choices they are present because they want them to be there, they are not required to do that, it´s their will, and they will do it, WITHIN THE CHARACTERS BOUNDRIES, that was all my point, beacuse you implied, again, something without totally freedom wasn´t an RPG.

Again, I don´t know what you read, but I never said anything about the game not having choices, the opposite, and explained how the RPG The Wtcher works.

@seasonedwitcher "This is an RPG games forum, it's implied in my post that it's RPGs I was referring to. If there is no choices or too much railroading in an 'RPG,' then it's pointless playing it."

How me replying about choices and RPG, to an RPG and choices sentence, is an STRAW (change of subject for what I know) debate, :hmmm:
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Again, Strawman. Where did I say total freedom was required? Nowhere did I say "total." Where in that quote did I say "total?" You're strawmanning and don't even realize it.

What confines? Just because the books say Yen doesn't mean CDPR are confined to that, that's just pure wishful thinking and speculation on your part. Bottom line, CDPR made Triss an intricate character in W2, hell that players have to choose between saving her or Tamaria in one ending. They can't just ditch her there now because it's convenient to do so according to the books. And you don't get to decide how the Witcher 3 RPG will work, so don't try to explain to me how it does.
 
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Sephira

Sephira

Forum veteran
#1,555
Jul 2, 2014
Guy N'wah said:
While two dispute, the third enjoys. (Title of an opera by Giuseppe Sarti, in which, about as you'd expect, the third suitor gets the girl while the first two are quarreling. Mozart was fond of this opera and quoted it.)
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Thank you Guy! :D

I knew it was a saying... but not the rest, what was behind it. Well, an italian who doesn't know that this is a title from an italian opera. Shame on me. :-
 
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EcoSeis

Rookie
#1,556
Jul 2, 2014
seasonedwitcher said:
Again, Starwman. Where did I say total freedom was required? Nowhere did I say "total." Where in that quote did I say "total?" You're strawmanning and don't even realize it.

What confines? Just because the books say Yen doesn't mean CDPR are confined to that, that's just pure wishful thinking and speculation on your part. Bottom line, CDPR made Triss an intricate character in W2, hell that players have to choose between saving her or Tamaria in one ending. They can't just ditch her there now because it's convenient to do so according to the books. And you don't get to decide how the Witcher 3 RPG will work, so don't try to explain to me how it does.
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First of all, I will appreciate you stop calling me anything... please.

Second, what are you reading? seriously...
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#1,557
Jul 2, 2014
Let's settle down. Before we have to ask you as moderators to do so.

Accusations of knocking down a straw man are strong accusations. I think we should not continue to make them, respond to them, or give cause to make them. That means, do not misrepresent what your adversary has written in order to advance your argument, do not argue that your adversary has done so, and do not retaliate in the belief that the other has done either of these things.
 
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GuyNwah

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#1,558
Jul 2, 2014
Guy N'wah said:
Let's settle down. Before we have to ask you as moderators to do so.
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Moderator: Posts have been deleted. There will be no more accusations of unfair argument of any kind and no further responses to any accusations already made. Members may be suspended if that is what it takes to restore order.
 
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dragonbird

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#1,559
Jul 2, 2014
Posts deleted.
And please note this:
Members may be suspended if that is what it takes to restore order
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Final warning.
 
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EcoSeis

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#1,560
Jul 2, 2014
Dragonbird said:
Posts deleted.
And please note this:

Final warning.
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My apologies, I didn´t know another conversation can´t be started, but just as a farewell to this thread, I have to say that I hope my posts, didn´t make any offense to anyone.

Note: Maybe it´s better if I edit my posts, or any of you Moderators delete the conversation, to prevent any replies from previous pages, without knowing about your warnings in the last one, anyways I will restrain myself to post in this thread anymore, unless any of you tell me so, to fix or edit or something.

Thanks.
 
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